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Abdul (Jigwrex)
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Post Number: 226
Registered: 2-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 1:55 am: | |
Fishing King,
As mentioned by Amir, the PGFA rules stated that their members not to use "Fireline". Doesn't that seem to be a bit prejudice towards a particular brand of product? What if other manufacturer also comes up with something similar (thermally bonded superlines of micro dyneema) and just give it a "normal" name or just call it superbraid?
Personally, I would suggest for name "fireline" to be replaced with "thermally bonded/fused superlines"......shouldn't it?
Amir,
Any particular reason(s) for the banning for "fireline"?
Cheers! |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Post Number: 136
Registered: 5-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 1:20 am: | |
Hi Fishking,
Sounds like there is very little difference between fireline & braided lines. Are firelines in anyway hazordous to the environment or they are generally discouraged due to the fact that they do not give the fish a chance to fight as would a mono give.
regards
amir |
Abdul (Jigwrex)
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Post Number: 225
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 12:40 am: | |
Fishing King,
I am cool! 
Thanks for the enlightenment!
Still have a 500yd spool of the fireline with me somewhere.... Will try it out soon.
Cheers! |
Fishing King (Fishingking)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 12:20 am: | |
Abdul,
sorry man, didnt intend it to sound too harsh. no offence intended...just that sometimes, when we research a bit, we learn new things.
The contest between fireline & braid has been ongoing for a long time. Fireline-braid is a new product & a vairation & combination of 2 products. this was developed so that fireline maintains its roundness (fireline is usally a bit flat), increase strength & for the company to make more money (hahaha). Jokes apart, the fireline braid cost twice the price of regular fireline. (I'm not kidding, its like paying for both fireline & braid and getting just 1 spool)
Fireline on its own is a gelspun line, with the filaments fused together, while braid is braided together. I do hope that some of you realise the difference.
Buy a regular fireline & wear out the end.....you will then be able to grab an edge & strip a strand of fibre out.....this is proof enough that it is fused & not braided.........
Try doing the same to braid...its impossible to strip any strand off.
Simple example: A table is not a chair & a chair is not a table, although both can be made of wood.
However, a stool can be used as a chair (seat) & it can also be used as a table to keep things on (this would make it a combination of both & would still be made of the same material)
in the case of these superlines.....they are almost the same, but molecular structure & formation pattern have been altered in each case.
Anyway, I dont want to talk about this anymore...so lets close the issue.
You are right Abdul, lets use this forum constructively, but lets not forget to double check on info before we can give it out. It becomes very easy for beginers to digest wrong information without knowing the difference as they are eager to learn. |
Abdul (Jigwrex)
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Post Number: 224
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 10:47 pm: | |
Asaad,
I usually give my rods(fishing rods) a good shower and scrubbing to rid of all the sands and salt particle build ups and after that wipe them with a dry towel and let them dry naturally.
This prolong the lifespan of the guides and guides' frames and any other parts which are made of metal.
Additionally it also rid of the stinking smell of both bait and fish as well.
As for the reels, as mentioned by Fish King and Hatem, watertight reels can be rinsed under the tap and then let to dry, otherwise just wipe the reels with damp cloth and the spools which doesn't house any bearings can be rinsed under the tap and then let to dry naturally.
As the seawater here is quite saline, please clean your rod and reels after using thenm to prolong their lives
Cheers! |
Abdul (Jigwrex)
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Post Number: 223
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 10:05 pm: | |
Fishing King,
I am not trying to contest/object/challenge whatever you are saying. I was merely trying to say that all this was "to my knowledge". I didn't say that you were wrong. Did I?
All that I had written was purely based on my knowledge and experiences which I had gathered during my (considerably still) short time involved in fishing.
PLEASE don't accuse me of trying to become a "self professing fishing god", as I am not and I had never intended to as well.
PLEASE aslo refrain from accusinng anybody of "self denial" of their "0".
Like I said I before, I am still quite new to fishing and continuously learns from others who are more experienced.
This is the main reason why I said fireline is one of the brand names of braid;
IMHO, we should try to constructively use this forum to share information and experiences rather than fight among ourselves.
Cheers! |
Fishing King (Fishingking)
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Post Number: 16
Registered: 6-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 9:44 pm: | |
HI Asaad, just as Hatem said, rods & reels need to be cleaned.
The rods can get a good wash down in a bath tub. Dont forget to rub each & ever guide to ensure that it is clean. If there is any dirt left, it could sever your line when you cast.
For reels, the spool can be taken out & washed with the shower spray. the reel body & handle can be wiped with a damp cloth. If your reel is a sealed reel, then you can rinse it lightly under a tap.
DO NOT fit the spool back on the reel until it is dried properly (in the sun), else the bearings may seize. |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Post Number: 135
Registered: 5-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 9:38 pm: | |
I haven't yet used either braid or fire line, but according to PGFA (Pakistan Gamefish Association) which is also a member of IGFA, they say that that firelines should not be used whereas braided lines can be used by their members.
Fishking you should continue to contribute by sharing the information. there could alsways be a difference of opinion |
CJ Hatem (Sharkbait)
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Post Number: 13
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 7:08 pm: | |
Asaad
yes it is good practice if you wash your gear off with fresh water after a day of fishing, the salt eats away at your real and any other metal parts. Your line will last longer as well. |
CJ Hatem (Sharkbait)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 6:57 pm: | |
Nigel
Let me know if you are planning on getting gear from RSA. There are some items i would like to get, wew could split the cost of post. I'm going to try out my lucj with drop shot fishing should work well around here, i'm also looking at trying out slide bait from the rocks. Do some ESA tricks around here and see how it works. |
Fishing King (Fishingking)
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Post Number: 15
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 1:45 pm: | |
Dear Abdul,
a little research will help you. Try and understand what someone has said, before trying to prove them wrong. It just shows how much you know.
If fireline was the same as braid....all braid manufactured by berkley would have fireline ....with x, y or z (suffix)
I even told you what the difference is between fireline & braid, but you are still in self denial.
I think all you do is talk big about fishing, but know '0' about the products you use.
Anyway, this is one of the reasons why I stopped posting earlier. Ignorent people self professing that they are fishing gods because they have heard a few names & have purchasing power.
I do hope you know your fishing for long, as you sound like my father even though I have been fishing for over 35 years.
Anyway, while you are wondering what hit you, you can do a little research on gelspun lines.
Amir,
Masaood marine is in AUH, but will ship the order to Dubai for free & you can collect it from their outlet in Al Jaddaf. However make sure you do a bit of research about any product (unless you have physically seen it before) before you buy it online. Delivery to their Dubai outlet is usually 2 days.
When you contact them on the phone, dont forget to ask them for a discount. |
Asaad Salahuddin (Saladsays)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 7:56 am: | |
Hey guys,
Any advice for maintenance of rods, is it true one should wash the line after a round of fishing?
By the way adam, i tried a float for the very first time with a sardine, mid water depth, second through in and i landed a pretty decent sized half beak! thanks for the advise bro, made my day.
Asaad. |
Abdul (Jigwrex)
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Post Number: 222
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 6:10 am: | |
Nigel,
For the best selection of rods, go to Barracuda at Marina Diamond Building near JBR(Jumeirah Beach Residence). U will find JM(Jigging Master) Terminator series as well as Van Staal rods as well as few of the custom build ones using blanks from St. Croix, JM and Matagi blanks, made by Fishpals aka Chua. U will also find hi end spinning as well as conventional reels.
As for braids(fireline) go to Al Fajar marine or Sea Star which are next to each other at Al Ras. There are lots of jigs but not many selection of jigheads.
p/s haven't seen any fireline multicolored braids here. Thanks for highlighting!
Cheers! |
Nigel Burn (Phrozenbuns)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 5:46 am: | |
Abdul,
Berkley Fireline is also colour coded with different colours at 10 metre intervals. It's a good line and the different colours work well in determining how deep your hook is.
Cheers |
Nigel Burn (Phrozenbuns)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 5:38 am: | |
Abdul,
I am looking for various items, like rods, lures, jigheads, fireline and anthing else I can find in the shop that looks worthwhile trying.
C.J, I am from Durban so I buy most of my gear from Basil Mannings shop: http:\www.basilmanning.co.za |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Post Number: 134
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 4:13 am: | |
7 ft Penn Slammer rod rated for 15-30 lb line (purchased for AED 290) and Daiwa BG90 (purchased for AED 300). The set up would be good for bottom fishing from boat, trolling (up to Rapala CD18's) and will come in handy in shore fishing from the rocks and breakwaters. Only used once.
I am looking to sell both for AED 350 for both.
regards
amir |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 3:04 am: | |
Does any one have an idea of an outlet of Masaood Marine in Dubai. They do have an outlet in Abu Dhabi but not sure of dubai.
regards
amir' |
Abdul (Jigwrex)
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Post Number: 221
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 2:17 am: | |
Fishing King,
To my knowledge, Fireline is the product brand name of a braided line/superline being produced by Berkely (Company name).
No other companies are allowed to use "fireline" as names for their braids as its protected by copyright/patent.
Braids/Superlines/braided lines are generic/general names while names like Tuf line, Spiderwire, Whiplash, Power pro and fireline are specific product names.
Just like other stuffs, each of the products will have different characteristics. some are rounder than others, thinner diameter than others, smoother than others, more closely woven (more fibres) than others, stiffer or softer than others.....trying to differentiate themselves from the rest.
The choices are endless and will also varies depending upon applications as well as personal preferrences.
Personally I prefer only few braids;
MUSTAD DYNAmite for their small diameter, softness and roundness.
Berkley Whiplash for its softness and wax coating
Berkley Fireline XDS for its small diameter, softness and wax coating.
Tufline XP for its softness.
Fins for its softness.
I had used and disliked Rapala Titanium braid due to its thickness and also coarseness of fibre which doesn't slide nicely along the guides.
Additionally also noticed that the old/original Fireline are not very round in profile.
Few of the best braids I had ever came across are the Japanese braids e.g JIGMAN and Varivas but as most Japanese angling products are, they are more than double the price of the other US equivalent...but much thinner and also have colours which acts as depth indicators.
Cheers! |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Post Number: 132
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 1:51 am: | |
Hi King,
Thanks for sharing the information about the license requirements. But apparently what we share here is what we experience and hear from other people interested in fishing like Abdul and yourself.
Again like Tayyab you also seem to be fallen out with this forum, however, welcome back. Do continue with contributions as it would clear many doubts and incorrect information that inexperience people like me have.
regards
Amir |
Abdul (Jigwrex)
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Post Number: 220
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 1:46 am: | |
Tayyab,
You're forgiven!
he..he..he..
Cheers! |
Fishing King (Fishingking)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 1:44 am: | |
Congratulations Tayyab on your catch !
Jigwrex thanks for being so helpful to everyone here.
Its good to see the forum active & picking up after so long. However there is a lot of mis information floating around.....for starters.
1) Yes, all emirates require fishing licenses. Except for Dubai license being free, all emirates charge for the license ranging from AED 50 to AED 200 (AUH being the most expensive)
However, except for Dubai & Abu Dhabi, none of the authorities are serious enough to go around checking licenses of people fishing.
2) Fireline (Gelspun) & Braid (Braided) are not the same, but are made from the same fibre (Dyneema, which is also used to make bullet proof vests)
Fireline is much stiffer than braid due to the coating present, but loses its stiffness after a few casts.
3) There are many places in Dubai to buy fishing gear, but most places are pricey or sell substandard stuff. The best option would be to import in lots (this would cut down shipping costs), unless you are in a hurry to get your hands on a rod or reel immediately & this will cost you. Shipping from locations like USA, hongkong or australia or china is 8 to 12 working days which is not too long to wait.
Decent tackle is available at Barracuda, knotica, al Masaood marine, ocean Marine (check link of fishemirates forum)& a couple of shops in Jumeriah.
Cheers & have fun fishing ! |
Tayyab Ali (Tayyab)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 1:33 am: | |
Yes Amir, a sort of unintentional they hooked themselevs in the rocks during high tide and when we checked our lines in the morning they tide was already gone so at that time i cant help them, |
Abdul (Jigwrex)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 12:54 am: | |
Amir,
Fireline is one of the various brands of braided lines/superlines/braids/dynema. Just like Toyota, Nissan, Ford etc are to automobiles.
The average depths of waters around Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Sharjah and Ajman are between 50-80ft. Except for those channels which are used by big tankers/cargo ships.
As for jigs, it will all depend upon the type of fish you are targetting. Small jigs are usually only attracting small fish and likewise the bigger jigs will be attracting bigger fish as the jigs are usually precieved as their corresponding food (baitfish) by the predatory fishes.
The choice of jigs will also depend upon water conditions. The water clarity will dictate the colours/reflectiveness/luminousity. The water current and depth will dictate the size/weight of the jigs AND ALSO the type of fish targetted.
There are different types of jigs requiring different types of presentations. Some will require fast jerking actions while others require slow/soft retrievals.
Additionally, the fish type targetted will also dictate how the jigs are to be presented.
And not forgetting different rod actions will require different types of jigs.
Cheers! |
CJ Hatem (Sharkbait)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 12:48 am: | |
Nigel
Where you from in South Africa? Maybe we can get together and place one order for gear from South Africa. I can get gear from Cape Town |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 12:39 am: | |
Hi Abdul,
Apologies for the spelling mistake.
rgds
amir |
Abdul (Jigwrex)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 12:38 am: | |
Nigel,
If you are after lures, monofilaments, flurocarbon or braids go to Seastar and Al Fajar at Al Ras.
I also noticed that most of the time lots of Oman registered cars are parked around that area assuming that they are buying the stuff there.
Best to go there on Saturdays as most of them are only open for few hours on Fridays.
Cheers! |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 12:37 am: | |
Are braided and fireline the same thing or they are different.
In paksiatn, using a fireline is not considered to be ethical fishing but braids can be used.
Regards
amir |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 12:36 am: | |
Hi Abudl,
What is the average depth of the water here in and around dubai for bottoming through boat and what should be the ideal weight of the jigs for jiggin in these waters.
regards
amir |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 12:35 am: | |
I bet Tayab this wasnt intentional. You were active in this forum last year but somehow went in to hibernation.
regards
amir |
Abdul (Jigwrex)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 12:30 am: | |
Nigel,
What particular things are you looking for? |
Tayyab Ali (Tayyab)
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Agreed, will take care in future...... |
Nigel Burn (Phrozenbuns)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2008 - 11:49 pm: | |
Hi All,
I have had a look at Barracuda's prices on the web, and they are on the pricey side. It will actually be cheaper for me to contact my favourite fishing tackle supplier in South Africa and import what I need. They current exchange rate between the Omani Rial and the South African rand is 1=25.60. |
Abdul (Jigwrex)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2008 - 11:32 pm: | |
My advice on fishing tackles:
Good things are not cheap;
Cheap things are not good!
I had been dissapointed many times by the failure of cheap, low quality stuff available here. E.g snaplock swivels which gave way, hooks snapping etc.  |
Abdul (Jigwrex)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2008 - 11:26 pm: | |
Let em grow bigger so that they'll fight harder!
Ciao! |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2008 - 11:15 pm: | |
You can check the stuff in barracuda through their website: http://www.barracudadubai.com |
CJ Hatem (Sharkbait)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2008 - 11:00 pm: | |
Reply on Rami's comments about size of fish, he is not the only one that feels that way, I agree with him, let the small ones back, i'm use to fishing where the law prevents you from taking fish under size, the specific fish shown in the photo must be at least 400mm before it can be taken home, that the law in South Africa. I practice this everywhere i go fishing. I think we all should do it in the name of fishing |
CJ Hatem (Sharkbait)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2008 - 10:57 pm: | |
Abdul
Thanks you are a great help will pay a visit to these shops. I will ask some of my friends in South Africa to get me soem gear from there, we get some good stuff at good prices. |
CJ Hatem (Sharkbait)
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Nigel
I hope you have luck, Abdul also reccomends barracuda. Yes please let me know what their stock is like. |
Abdul (Jigwrex)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2008 - 10:23 pm: | |
Hatem,
Almost 90% of my stuff I got from back home in Brunei. Whenever on holiday (every quarterly....as my entitlement of working with our national carrier), I will be on my shopping spree for my pals and obviously myself too
Most of the rods and reels available here are either way too expensive or crap! Only the lures are worth buying here e.g rapala, storm, Duel, Yo-Zuri, Williamsons etc). There are lots of jigs available but only few good quality ones available e.g Willaimsons and Duel. These shops are located next to a fire station at Al-Ras (landmarks: St George Hotel, Deira Library).
The best places for good quality gears are ; Barracuda (near the Abra on Bani Yas Road and at Marina Diamond infront of JBR), Knotika on Sheikh Zayed Road and Ocean Blue Trading in Fujairah (check it out at www.fishemirates.org)
Cheers! |
Abdul (Jigwrex)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2008 - 10:08 pm: | |
I fully support Rami's opinion. We should try to observe "sustainable fishing" practice.
Cheers! |
Nigel Burn (Phrozenbuns)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2008 - 7:49 pm: | |
C.J.
Thanks for the info. I will contact Barracuda and find out where they are, and pay them a visit. I will post a message next week to tell you what they have in stock, and if they are worth a visit. |
CJ Hatem (Sharkbait)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2008 - 7:39 pm: | |
Abdul
thanks for the heads up on bait and lures to be used, will need to relook at my tackle box. where do you buy your tackle from? |
CJ Hatem (Sharkbait)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2008 - 7:36 pm: | |
Hi Nigel
there are a number of sport shops in the big shopping malls which sell good products their range is small, then there is one tackle shop next to Dubai creek, its called barracuda, havent been there my self so have no idea of what they have in stock. in dragon mart you can find one or two tackle shops, they sell inport products and are cheap, cheap is not always good. |
Nigel Burn (Phrozenbuns)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2008 - 8:45 am: | |
Hi Guys,
I live in Muscat and fish along the coastline here. Good fishing to be had in some spots!!
My question is: I will be travelling to Dubai this weekend, and would like to know of any decent fishing tackle shops where I can stock up on some gear, i.e. rods, lures, line etc.
Can anybody suggest a few places to visit?
Thanks in advance. |
Rami Tamimi (Rtamimi)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2008 - 7:50 am: | |
Tayyab,
Nice Catch but I have to make a comment about your catch. Did you know that Grouper (aka Hamour) start their lives as Males and once they reach maturity,they change gender to Females.
Other thing, harvesting juvenile fish is a personal choice, but keep in mind how long it will take to deplete the resources if we keep on keeping juvenile fish. and how long it will take to replenish the resources? what can we leave for the future generations.
I am not trying to be personal, but I always send out the message of releasing undersized fish and the importance of releasing them to reach their full potentials. On the other hand, people say look at the fish market and look at the size of fish they're selling, I can't change that although i wish I could.
The authorities implemented the fishing license requirement but they didn't take into consideration size and limits. That's what so important in my opinion (Size and limit not the actual license itself)I wish somebody can take that into consideration.
Once again, please don't take it personal. It's just my own opinion and I can't force it on anyone.
Thanks |
Tayyab Ali (Tayyab)
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Last week catch, went to Dubai Marina |
Abdul (Jigwrex)
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Guys,
Got something else in mind!
Thus want to sell off the two Daiwas which I just got from Brunei. Anybody interested, can call me directly on 050 5528348
Daiwa Exceler Oceano 4500J complete with an aluminium power knob for sale. Brand New price AED620, Asking for AED600 or nearest offer....comes complete with the purchase gift - Original Daiwa cap(red).
tech spec as follows;
New for 2007/2008, Daiwa's latest saltwater spinning reel, the Exceler Oceano 4500J. Built to withstand the rigors of heavy saltwater use the Exceler Oceano is built tough, from the Hardbodyz construction to the heavy duty phosphor bronze gearing, this reel is an excellent choice for serious saltwater anglers. Perfect for medium weight jigging, rock and surf or heavy boat spinning.
Hardbodyz body and side plate
Airbail
Twistbuster II
ABS machined aluminum spool with titanium nitride lip
Titanium nitride ball bearing line roller
Infinite anti-reverse
Machined aluminum power handle and rubber jigging knob
3 stainless steel ball bearings inc. 1 CRBB
Waterproof 9kg drag
Real Four (ENGINE,ENDURANCE,CONTROL,CUSTOM)
Precision, computer die cast aluminium alloy body.
Anti-corrosion ball bearing (CRBB)
Advanced digigear design.
Cross wrapping gear oscillation.
Twist buster II.
Hyper Tournament drag.
Micro precision click adjustable drag.
Washable construction.
Aluminium machined handle.
ABS spool
Infinite Anti-Reverse.
Made in Japan
Max Drag 8kgs
Spooled with 250yds of (Japanese) PE3 Jigman Braid.
PIMPED with round aluminium power knob.
Only used twice.
Original Price Paid AED700(without braid and power knob)
Asking for AED650.
Must see to appreciate these beauties!!!!!!!
Cheers! |
Abdul (Jigwrex)
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Hatem,
As far as bottom fishing is concerned; sardines, mackeral, squid/cuttlefish and shrimps works well here.
For trolling, lures which are having greenish and bluish reflective colours are the main attractant.....and the ever so popular high contrast "redhead" colour.
Soft plastics tend to work quite well as well....depends upon your presentations.
As for jigs, similar to trolling, highly reflective bluish and greenish hues are the main flavour!
As far as flies are concerned....will have to pass you over to either Fishpals or kitsler as they are most experienced in this thing and BELIEVE it or not...I haven't gone to that yet!
Cheers! |
CJ Hatem (Sharkbait)
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What is the law with regards to owning a boat i love off shore fishing just don't want to pay such high prices every time to go out to sea. |
CJ Hatem (Sharkbait)
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Hi Abdul
I love light gear fishing, i fish for the sport, just love the fight the fish gives me, even my deap sea gear is light tackle. My aim is to land a yellow fin tuna on my fly rod. at this point of time i will start small. where do you guys buy bait and what works well around here. |
CJ Hatem (Sharkbait)
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Hi Amir
Thanks for the info, i'm looking at going to RAK and try my luck with my fly gear. Looking at going the weekend of the 31 Oct 08. |
Abdul (Jigwrex)
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Hi Antonello,
I am getting excited already!!!! :D
Please get more details. If possible try to plan for something at the end of the month.
VEEEEEEEEEEEEEERY itchy to give real tests to some of my newly acquired gears!!!!!
Ciao! |
Abdul (Jigwrex)
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Hi Hatem,
Welcome to the forum and sincerely hoping that you find it most informative. We use this forum to discuss issues and share informations in respect to fishing within the UAE.
At some point all of us were also first timers be it in fishing within this waters or in fishing in general. Don't be afraid to ask questions as there are lots of friendly anglers who are more than willing to clarify some (if not most) of your doubts.
My general advise for fishing within this gulf enclave, use light tackles. Heavy gears will only be worth (which I had learned the hard way) IF you are planning of fishing at the east coast as the waters within the west coast are generally quite shallow.....around 60-80ft only. While the west coast waters are having depths of between 300-1000ft!
Around the coast of these waters, gears which are rated maximum 30lbs should be more than enough. I myself am currently enjoying fishing with sets which are rated maximum only 20lbs. The main objective is to have fun thus by having light gears, you will atleast be giving some chance to the fish to fight. IF GETTING fish is the objective, I suggest to just go to the fish market!!!!
Cheers! |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Hi Hatem,
Theres no fishing club as sort in Dubai, none of which I have heard.
Theres no license requirement in RAK.Would let you know when we are heading for a trip.
rgds
amir |
CJ Hatem (Sharkbait)
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Hi Amir
Thanks for the info, it seems it will be some problem for me to get a license as my accommodation is paid for by the company i work for, the DEWA account is in the companies name. Will stil try my luck and see if i can get a license. What is the requirments for RAK. Seen some nice spots in RAK for fishing heard alot about Dibba as well. Is there a fishing club in Dubai? I would like to join you guys on a fishing trip if possible. |
gerry alconaba (Gerry)
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hello guys,
maybe some of you also experienced the heavy fog last friday morning in mina zayed...winter is coming to town...and so as fishing season...good luck to everybody...
gerry. |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Hi Hatem,
regarding the fishing license, you can browse posts by Pranab in the beggining of the year which are quite detailed. However, in a nutshell, you need the tenancy contract and Dewa bill to be in your name, other documents such as passport copy, drivers license copy, car registration etc, but the most important is the tenancy contract and Dewa bill in your name. The license can be obtained from Dubai muncipality. The license is free at the moment, but for ADH there is a annual fees of AED 200, whereas there is no licensing requirements in other emirates.
Fishing spots are already mentioned in various posts by various guys contributing to this forum.
Fishing in & around the Creek is prohitbited from what I have heard. Havent yet checked it myself tough.
regards
Amir |
Asaad Salahuddin (Saladsays)
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Thanks alot guys,(Amir, Abdul, Adam, Antonello) think i'll check out some of those spots, i see some of your numbers have been posted on this message board, will probably give you a call, really appreciate all the advise, guess its time to just go out there and experiment! will keep you updated on my 'fishing aventures', and thanks again. |
CJ Hatem (Sharkbait)
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Hi
I'm new in the UAE and love my fishing just like all of you i have a problem finding a good spot and other fisherman who loves the sport, would like to meet up with some of you and do some good fishing. who could give me info on a fishing license |
Antonello Manca (Fisherman78)
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HEY GUYS!!
Asaad welcome to the Forum!!!
I think Abdul has given all the right spot,
however after I have spent two weeks in Ras Al Khaima I discovered few good fishing spots there , near the entrance of the town on the from the beach and breakwaters...
Abdul I got the contact of these guys in Dibba that are going out to reasonable places...maybe we should try them out..
Let me know..
Ok guys..have a great week!!!!
Take care |
Abdul (Jigwrex)
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Hi Asaad!,
I can tell you....BUT then I will have to kill you...!
He..he..he.. JUST KIDDING!
Welcome to the Forum.....the place where friendly fishermen/anglers share their views and experiences.
Few of the decent shore fishing spots are;
1) Around the creek, sadly from what I ham hearing fishing is now prohibited at the creek.
2) Dubai Marina...near the DEWA powerplant
3) Jumeirah open beach area where there is a breakwater.
4) Abu Dhabi Cornische.
5) Mina Port in Abu Dhabi
6) The port canal opposite Ajman Kempinski Hotel, using the road leading to the powerplant.
There are few other spots which other anglers might like to share.
Cheers! |
adam harvey (Adamh)
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Saladsays,
Welcome to the forum!
Glad to hear you've found a place for which to share your fishing experiences and learn from like minded people.
I live in Abu Dhabi so not to sure about fishing spots in Dubai however, there are many of the forum members that do. Abdul, Amir, Ashley and Antonello maybe able to help you out. Come on fellas, share some of your favourite spots with the gentleman!
As for sardine and grouper fishing, i fish with Ijlal almost every weekend now as we are both based in Abu Dhabi and when using sardines although not neccessarily for Grouper, we have 2 ways of fishing, either with a float and using the sardine as the weight and fishing mid-water depth or as you mention, with a weight and decent sized hook and just let it hit the bottom and leave it for the fish to attack. Hope that helps.
Let me know if you are heading up to Abu Dhabi, you'd be welcome to fish with us.
Cheers.
Adam |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Hi Asad,
I usually do bottom fishing. Have tried spinning with lures and jiggs from breakwater but to no avail. I hope Ijlal, Abdul or Adam would proivde some input on it.
I cannot cast more than 10-15 meter with a lure using a 15lbs or less line. I get disinterested in a few cast and then start to bottom fish which provides results but the catch are not very big. Though I have caught a 1-3 kg breams and Nagroor through bottoming frmo Creek park. But sadly i have heard that the Municipality have prohibited fishing there.
I usually use to bottom fish at creek park, Jumeira breakwater opposite the Zoo, Mamzar Area, under Makhtoum bridge but again through bottoming your catch size would not be great.
I have tried using a float but could not get anything via that too. May be some one here could throuw some light on how to fish through a float.
regards
amir |
Asaad Salahuddin (Saladsays)
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WOW!!
finally discovered a site where one can talk to and get helpful info about fishing in the UAE.
Hello everyone, just got back from fishing near the DUbai Marina area, not sure what i caught but they're pretty small, used some squid, basic bottom fishing technique.
Was wondering M.r Ijlal, when using sardines for groupers, i am assuming one uses weights and lets them sit at the bottom, is that right? Also what technique do you use for those x raps? would be very greatful if you could help me out as i am not to familiar with using lures.
Am still trying to find a decent spot for casting in the water breaker areas of Dubai, (have a soft stomach, trollings out of the question), would be greatful if anybody could please advise me with some better 'big fish' spots,
Thanks in advance,
Happy fishing! |
adam harvey (Adamh)
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Hi Amir
I live in Abu Dhabi. Normally i fish with Syed Ijlal who you'll know from the forum and 2 friends, Mohammed and Harry.
My number is 050 615 0416 if you want to give me a call and i can let you know more details about timings etc.
Cheers.
Adam |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Hi Adam,
Do you live in dubai or AD as me & Ali would like to join you. Could you please advise more details as what time do you intend to leave and what would be the duration. Also if you could advise the estimated cost per head as I and Ali would be interested depending on the cost timings etc. |
adam harvey (Adamh)
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Hi Amir
We'll no doubt be going out from Abu Dhabi by boat on this day. Would you be interested in joining up with us?
Let me know.
Cheers.
Adam |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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If any one is going for a boat trip on 24 oct or the week after that please lt me know as I am interested in joining either of you guys. We are two people.
regards'
amir |
adam harvey (Adamh)
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Loving the pimped accessories on those reels... so did you guys go surf fishing then or not? |
Abdul (Jigwrex)
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Hi Adam,
Glad to hear about your great weekend with rods and lines...and of course with the fishes! Much better than ours! I seemed to be still under a curse of not being able to catch any fish for the last 3weeks+!!!!!!
Sawe a Filipino angler catching a 4-5kgs king Fish, baraccuda and queenfish. Our catches, caught by the angler of the day, ANTON were Flounder, Saafi and few small sheries. Luke managed to hook up a spotted ray. Chua had caught few smaller fish on fly.
Really glad to know that you liked the Shimano Stradic 4000. There had been lots of good testimonials about those Stradics that I ended up buying one myself! I got myself the 8000 for medium duty jigging.....(just can't wait to use it)
Infact...... got carried away with the reel purchases!
Got these two other Daiwas.
Daiwas Exceller Oceano 4500J (pimped with an aluminium power knob)
Daiwa Freams KIX 4000 (also pimped with an aluminium power knob)
Cheers! |
Abdul (Jigwrex)
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Hi Amir,
Braided lines are usually much thinner than monofilaments. The average diameter of a 30lbs braid is usually only about that of 12-15lbs monofilaments.
Obviously with smaller diameters, much more braids will be able to be spooled compared to mono lines.
Due to thinner diameters, lighter and more smoother due to having some sort of PE/PTFE/wax coatings......castability is greatly improved. Japanese braids are well known to even be thinner than that from the states or Europe. The Jigman/Varivas braid of 50lbs are only having similar diameter of 30lbs American equivalent.
HOWEVER strong braids are, they are considerably much more brittle owing to the almost nil stretchability compared to mono lines. Suddent STRONG jerk might just snap it at its weakest point...usually at points of earlier abrasions against rocks or fishes's teeth and/or sharp spines/scales etc. For this main reason, either monofilament or flurocarbon lines are used as shock leaders.
Going back to your query,
1)with the spool still the same, you should be able to spool about 250-300yds of 30lbs braid...depending upon 1) the thickness of the braid AND the drag/pressure exerted when respoooling due the thighter the respooling, the more lines can be spooled AND this will also safeguard against line "dig-ins" into the spool.
2) as mentioned earlier, castability will be greatly improved due to less resistance while moving through the air and also due to less weight.
Cheers! |
adam harvey (Adamh)
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Hi Abdul
Hope you had a good productive fishing weekend?
Just wanted to let you know that i finally got to use the Shimano Stradic reel you got for me and boy it is awesome. It punched the small metal spinner i was casting with easily 100 yds without any major effort and set up with the shimano rod, it was so light weight, you almost forget it's in your hand...!!
We went out over the weekend in Abu Dhabi, Friday down by Mina Zayed and Saturday in Al Bateen area. Friday zero fish and Sat around 10 fish, mixed variety. We were suposed to be going out via boat on Sat but were let down at the last minute due to an engine problem on the boat.
Also saw one guy fly fishing in Mina Zayed and hooked into some of those needle fish as they are called out here or garfish back home.
Cheers.
Adam |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Hi guys,
Just a few small ones.
1 - If a reel is capable of spooling 200yrds of 15lbs mono line, how many yrds would it be able to spool of a 30lb braided line
2 - Can braided lines be used for casting without effecting the casting distance.
regards
amir |
Abdul (Jigwrex)
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Hi Rami,
Thanks man!
You really got me "itchin to go fishin".
Mama mia.......! Those sure are "back breaker" beasts!
Just look at the sizes of jigs that the are using....some of them must be around a kilo each...!
Interesting that they are also using the Shimano Saragosa and the Stradic other than the Stella.
So next on my shopping list......Shimano Saragosa!
Cheers! |
Abdul (Jigwrex)
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Hi Antonello,
Glad to be back
Very sorry to hear about you getting stuck in RAK.
Will call/sms you on the fishing competition.
Will plan for a session when you are back here....
Ciao! |
