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Abdul Latif (Jigwrex)
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Post Number: 126
Registered: 2-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 2:16 am: | |
Bart/Syed,
Just to add on the casting rod subject.
Nowadays there are also casting rods with "spiral" guides placement. the first one after the reel will be on top the second one will be at 90degrees offset and then the rest (up to the tip) will be at 180degrees offset.
Advantage, with load (hopefully fish at the other end), there will considerably be much less force trying to trip/topple the setup which is already top heavy.
Syed - You might recall Mohammed using this rod during our last boat trip.
Cheers! |
Syed Ijlal Hussain (Ijlal)
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Post Number: 325
Registered: 6-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 1:35 am: | |
Bart,
Regarding difference between casting and spinning rods, Abdul has already made a few points and Dylan has proven himself an avid student  . I will just add a few more. You will notice the number of guides on a conventional, aka casting rod is always more than an equivalent spinning one. For example, consider the Penn rods I was telling you about in the last mail: The spinning version will have 5 to 7 line guides, whereas the casting version I have has 8 or 9. Ever wonder why? The very simple reason is on a conventional, the line travels above the blank; when the blank is bent downwards when you have a fish on or when casting, the line will come into contact with the blank and cause friction leading to both the line and the blank getting abraded. This is the only reason why more line guides are found on casting rods; however it also depends on the blank's action. Fast tapers need more guides, while the slow tapers of conventional trolling rods need only 4 - 6 guides as the rod never bends enough.
Thanks,
Ijlal |
Dylan (Ichthys)
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Post Number: 59
Registered: 3-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 1:29 am: | |
Good man Ijlal Bhaaaaaaai....you dont cease to amaze me with your "wisdom" regds the "confedence2 thingy bout the rod. And thanks again for the advice on the rod las night. Also i know I can trust you for good advice if ever I break my leg or need an eyepatch or a parrot for my shoulder and making coffee and planting geraniums...
Abdul..thanks for the posting. Didnt know bout the "trigger" on casting reels. Always learning from you guys. Also thanks for the Sea Scorpion..havent done it formally. Its a thing of beauty. Only thing more beautiful is a thong seperated by Heather Grahams butt cheeks...tickle tickle...tickle me wikkle...
K then Bart, the ROD, its available at Sun n Sand Jumeriah and at City Center....NOW ITS A BLOODY RACE BETWEEN US...EEEEEEEEEEHHHEEEEEEEE (evil laugh.
BTW...I drive a beeeeg red ferrari that is amphibious and also has turbo charged rocket engines to do the skies. All that gadgetry only to avoid Salik. Only thing is I've disguised it as a beaten up old Honda Accord. Dont want people to know my secret identity (008..licenced to Gill...wink wink). So I dont think youre gonna stand a chance of beating me to the finsih line. |
Syed Ijlal Hussain (Ijlal)
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Post Number: 324
Registered: 6-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 1:06 am: | |
Hello Bart,
You can check this rod at Barracuda, which should be a great rod for trolling but I doubt it would be much help casting light lures. You will have to go and handle it to get a feel in order to decide. http://www.barracudadubai.com/services/general/shopping/product_detail .php?prodid=137
If casting lures up to 4oz is your primary purpose, then go for a certain Penn rod available in Dubai at a certain outlet. I am not disclosing the ID as Dylan told me about it and asked if he should buy it. Now, that probably was the only piece left so call and check with Dylan; if he does not want it, he should be happy to tell you where to get it. You can easily troll CD18-MAGs with this rod; just make sure you put it in a holder that is 45 degrees to the gunwale rather than perpendicular to it, as this rod does have a light tip action. I have a conventional version of this rod and have caught a 123 lb cobia with it. It has a tremendous action when fighting a fish and lots of lifting power due to a very strong butt. I cannot be 100% sure of the spinning version, but Dollar for Dollar, no rod can ever beat my conventional 15-40 lb version. I just love it!
You can couple either of the above rods with a decent quality 7000 - 9000 size spinning reel such as Okuma V80A, Penn 850SS/950SS or even a Daiwa BG90.
Hope this helps,
Ijlal |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Post Number: 37
Registered: 5-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 12:41 am: | |
Hi Atef ,
Is there any regulation on the use of inflattables i.e. any license requirements etc.
Thanks
Amir |
Dylan (Ichthys)
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Post Number: 58
Registered: 3-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 12:35 am: | |
Good fishing Richie...nice King there. If you could post the exact coordinates to get to the spot...assuming we're driving outa dubai along Sheik Zayed road it would be wonderful. Save us the bother of wasting time spinning the driving wheel insted of the fishing reel. Thanks in advance Bro.
Abdul... you horrible horrible person. And u to Adam..you terrible colonialist from the Empire and mole of Austin Powers...you guys are having fun takin the mickey outa me. You have sucked the wind from beneath my wings; you've punched ahole in the sails of my passion; you've dampened my spirit with a fishnet fullof dank seaweed; you have robbed me of my moment in the sun by casting the shadow of your cruel remarks on the glitter in my eyes. Oooo... I'm so sad and sorry. I'm gonna go into the garden and eat worms.
I wanna cry....BWWWAAHHHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH....
Oooooops...wrong sound track....lemme plug the right one into the system
.....BOOOOOHOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO SOB SOB SOB.
Thats more like it and hope it gets me lots of sympathy votes...chuckel chuckle. |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Post Number: 36
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 12:31 am: | |
Hi Abdul,
Basically I called up Palma Resorts in UAQ. They suggested 5 a.m.
They charge AED 150 per head for 3 hours and AED 50 for each extra hour. Me and Ali are on for it but obviously 4 people are required to bring down the cost per head.
Also, please let me know of any other option forboat fishing.
Actually too eager to go on a boat trip as I have not been on one. Pls do let me know if you have slots available for 2 people on you next trip.
Rgds
Amir |
Bartosz S (Bart)
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Post Number: 43
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 12:30 am: | |
Dylan,
Makes perfect sense! I realised it was down to guide size but didnt put 1 and 1 together to figure out that the reel comes into the equation also!
Thanks,
Bart |
Abdul Latif (Jigwrex)
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Post Number: 125
Registered: 2-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 12:26 am: | |
Bart,
Spinning rods will usually have much bigger and taller guides as the spinners' spools are at quite a distance away from the reel seats when compared to a casting reel.
Additionally, a casting rod usually have a "trigger" like protrusion so as to enable the rod/reel combo to be held in place without toppling over due to the "top-heavy" characteristic of the casting set up.
And BTW, the spinfisher or most of the SS series reels by PENN are quite robust BUT heavy. Pranab, should be able to give you some comments as he is having a 950SS.
Cheers! |
Atef Oowais Ali (Atefoowais)
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 10-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 12:17 am: | |
hey boys.. im selling a few (10 nos) inflatable boats. its an intex excursion 5 for 5 people. its very sturdy and really good for fishing. Price is AED 750. its very stable boats. oh if you also want an electric car pump and vaccum its for AED 65. please let me know asap as they are being sold in numbers.... call me on 0505397283 . cheers guys...
atef |
Dylan (Ichthys)
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Post Number: 57
Registered: 3-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 12:16 am: | |
Yo Bart mate...it isnt a stupid Q at all. In fact the act of asking questions is the most intelligent thing one can do - coz thats how we learn; not to get philosophical or anything, but the wisest man i he who continues to remain on a steep learning curve.
I myself spent a lifetime without knowing the diff until Syed clarified it for me recently.
To identify the difference between the rods is to look at the size of the guides - spinning rods have large guides and casting rods have smaller ones. The difference between casting and spinning has little to do with the actual action of chucking bait/lure/weight out into the azure drink....Its more to do with certain "mechanics" of the entire process of chucking and retreival.
Spinning reels are "vertically" oriented when mounted (vertical to the plane of the rod when held upright)and hang under the rod. And when chucked the line will go out in concentric circles from the spool. Hence the likelyhood of extra surface area contact if the guides are small - increasing both resistance and friction against the sides of the guides and limiting cast distance. Therefore, spinning rods have larger dia guides.
On the other hand conventional reels (rigged on top of the rod) are "horizontally" mounted and the line dont "spin" but follows a straighter path from the drum. Hence a casting rod will have smaller dia guides.
Both have their plus and minus factors...but heck, what in the world doesnt eh?
For more details, theres a posting by Syed detailing this subject sometime around Feb/March 2008. you gota hit the search button out here and am sure you'll find it.
Anyone have clarification on what I have posted or have any contentions pls free to lemme know. BUT NO ARGUMENTS PLEEEEASE. Lets maintain the deco of the forum.
Happy Casting and Happy Spining or whateva. Now I'm gonna spin my sorry ass to the mall and see I can "BAIT SOMETHIN TO MATE" Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. |
Atef Oowais Ali (Atefoowais)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 12:11 am: | |
hey boys how are you all doing today??? well my name is Atef O Ali and i am planning to do some fishing in Ajman on friday 06/06/08 afternoon at 3pm. If you boys and girls are interested show up behind the old ajman cultural center that is adjacent to ajman kempinski. ill be there on the rocks... oh those of you who have inflatable boats.. bring it with you... its completely safe.... |
Abdul Latif (Jigwrex)
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Post Number: 124
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 12:10 am: | |
Went out for boat fishing with Ashley, Ashleys's dad (Charles), Chua, Kim & Mohammed on Friday late afternoon (around 4pm). The boat guy claimed that there will be plenty of big fishes, sort of "you name it, we'll catch it"
We then realised, he didn't even have any particular spot!!!!! He was merely stopping at a spot where there was another boat anchoring and letting the boat drift, saying that its the best way and we'll soon hit the right spot!?!?!??!???
Initially it was quite slow but just before sunset, the fishes started to hit....in big numbers!!!!! My PE2 light casting set bent literally like the letter "n" when having a double hook-up.
The Sherries were up to 2-2.5kgs each. While happy with the size of the sherries, we would like to catch other fishes but all our efforts were in vain. We wanted to catch the Kings, Queens etc. The only other catch we got were the two almost 01kg each baraccudas, caught only by Ashley.....with the Navi 8000 which he just got from me..he..he..he..!
Finished at around 9pm with Sheries of about 30kgs.
Pranab - Glad to hear that you are back to your senses....and sincerely hoping that it will stay that way.
Dylan - Congrats on the good catch and "mabrook" on the new rod. BTW thanks for the lead on the Sun & Sand sale. Picked up a fishing shirt by COLUMBIA. As adam pointed out, if you don't slow down (the shopping at Sun & Sand).....we all might end up shopping at your place instead!..he..he..he..
Bart - Braid does improve casting due to thinner diameter (compared to mono with same weight rating) and also the PTFE coating BUT the down sides are....highly visible, extremely sharp thus need to use gloves and highly expensive. The Berkley Whiplash latest range (improved formula) is one of the best in terms of smoothness of the fibre and thinnest diameter for the weight rating.....Tested, proven and endorsed by us in Mussandam for hauling in GTs upto 35kgs.
Chris e - The Stellas are going to worth every penny spent......as from my own experience with the 20000. Simply silky smooth. The 2008 model of the 8000 Stella comes with round Carbon fibre handle which makes my wallet feels hot!..he..he..he
Rich - Congrats on the good catch!
Amir - From what time till what time? IMHO, AED175 each for only 04hrs is kinda stiff. Irrespective of the total numbers? Need to also get the timings right as the fishes will only start biting once there is some current. Not at high or low tide.
Cheers! |
Bartosz S (Bart)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 11:04 pm: | |
And one last question...
This will probably sound stupid for most of you BUT: what are the EXACT differences between spinning and casting rods?
I seem to have become a little confused lately ...
Rgds,
Bart |
Bartosz S (Bart)
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Post Number: 41
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 11:01 pm: | |
EVERYONE,
Thank you for the information!!
Chris,
I think your conclsuions about the forum and using the correct gear were spot on!
Ijlal,
I dont plan on casting anything more then 4oz I THINK! But at the same time want the rod to be capable of trolling a CD18 size rapala IF NECESSARY. As far as budget constraints go... feel free to give me some options for a cheaper combo and more expensive ones! Im not sure how much I will be willing to spend, as I always end up spending more then I should whenever im in a tackle store!
Guys what are your opinions or opinions youve heard about the Penn spinfisher ss series reels?
Bart |
Bartosz S (Bart)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 10:46 pm: | |
Hi Dylan
Thanks for the info! Ill def check it out. Good job at the creek! Suprised with the weather getting hot that you guys are still getting good results! keep it up
Bart |
Rich (Ritchie)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 10:15 pm: | |
Hi all
Been v. busy recently, had little time to post, but had a good weekend out fishing out of Dubai around "The World"/Jebel Ali yesterday/day before, a lot of grouper (hamour), with several nice ones of 4kg, taken by trolling 'ye old faithful' rapala red head, but most on bottom-fished shrimp/squid/fishbaits. Rapala red head on the downrigger also accounted for some nice queens of around 4kg just on the drop off on the edge of the Jebel Ali Channel.
Yesterday the kings put in an appearance, I had a nice 12 kg king on a Williamson Ribbon fish soft lure on the downrigger, another smaller one of 3kg hit a silver blue deep diver rapala. Things slowed down after 10am, so switched to a bit of bottom fishing for grouper and had several to 4kg and a flathead.
Sorry, no pics here (tried several times to post but given up!!), there are some on the Fish Emirates forum (http://www.fishemirates.com/).
Have family visiting and then on leave, so that'll be the last of the sea fishing till September here - will spend the summer fly fishing for trout in colder climes!
Best to all, have a good summer
Richie |
Dylan (Ichthys)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 3:05 pm: | |
Ohooooooooo...Adammmm...you nahsty denizen of the Emmmmpire...beehayyave yhourselfe...you nouuuty nouuuuty boy....
Only sweet thangs now left over at Sun & Sand are the thongs the sales girl was wearing and perhaps the managers MOJO!! eeeeheeeeheeee (evil laugh) But even those aint safe from my perfidious and greedy cotton pickin fingers...nimnimnimnim..
Bout the fishing...cant say much this of town. I know 3 guys who staked the creek out here - 11PM to 7 AM (a whole nighter) and caught NOTHING.
This evening one of them was out with a vengence at bout 9pm when I took my dog out there for his swim. You know obsession - fishing can get nasty when you try to buck the trend and refuse to accept ground realities. My credo is "if the fish dont bite make sure reality does and move on". But often I see guys take it as a personal battle between them and the elements and the sea ... and defy the odds to vindcate themseleves kinda....
It takes the fun outa fishing and some of the guys end up looking like theyre doing battle rather than enjoying the moment - bad tempered and growling.. Funny sight though.
Gimme a call mate. Been on the line with Ijlal (good ole Long John Silver) all the time. Will take him up on the latte very soon. |
adam harvey (Adamh)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 10:43 am: | |
Yo Dylan....
Is there any gear left at Sun N Sands or did you buy it all....lol..hehehehe
How's life pal?
Met up with Ijlal today for a coffee and showed him my "inherited gear", no need to go to starbucks anymore as this bro makes better lattes that any of those american shops put together....lol hehehehehe
So, anyone out catching any fishy wishies over the weekend or what?
Adam |
Dylan (Ichthys)
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Post Number: 55
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 9:28 am: | |
Dear Amir, sorry, just to clarify, THERE IS DEFINITELY a sale at Sun n Sand. Started 29th and some of the deals are real bargain.
Bart, mate, if you have a definite limit on your budget, like I do, then Sun N Sand is the place to go. Thye do have Penn - slammer and power stick models. And I do the managers at City Center very well and the discounnts are so heavy coz they wanna make room for new stock.
Only thing is they have limited stock of spining rods. If its casting rods you want therre are quite a few. Suggest you make haste.
Ashley, nice talking to you mate and congrats on the Shimano. Im sure you'll have much fun with it. . Look foward to attaching a face to voice soon...although In my case I was beaten with an Ugly Stick (or so they tell me)
I picked up a Penn Pursuit - a nice light one for light shore fishing. Felt very nice. I had to return the Daiwa shore rod I purchased from Carrefour though. It was tooooooo heavy and the handle dia is which is bout 4/5 cms is built for someone with palms the size of a bear. Didnt enjoy it. Exchanged it for a cheap massage machine and will massage the aches frommy palms later. May also do lower back and a little lower too (wink wink) Sure wont hold a candle to a Thai treatment though. |
Syed Ijlal Hussain (Ijlal)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 4:00 am: | |
Hey Bart,
Thanks for the reply to my questions. Before I open my mouth and blurt whatever comes out, I would like to know a couple of things more. One is what type of lures do you intend using - I ask this as you cannot cast a 6 oz popper with a rod meant to cast maximum of 4 oz weight without risking breaking off the tip. Secondly, What are your budgetary constraints? Do you intend to keep it as inexpensive as possible or do you want to go for the best?
Thanks,
Ijlal |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 2:33 am: | |
Hi Guys,
Any 1 interested in going for a boat trip next Saturday 7 Jun 08 from Ummal Quwain.
The estimated cost would be AED 175 per head for a 4 hour trip.
need two more people.
rgds
Amir |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 10:33 pm: | |
Hi Bart,
As Dylan mentioned, I think there is a sale in Sun & Sands, so you could get the Penn Slammer from there.
As for BG 60/90, there are available in Deira. If you plan to get the reel give me a call on 050-8553820 and I will guide you to the shop.
I am yet to check out the performance of the Rod & reel from a boat, so cannot advise you on the performance side of the combo, however, both i.e. the rod & reel costs AED 545.
I also have a BG60 and have used is for casting from the shore with a Penn 8ft Pursuit rod. The reel works fine, however, both BG60/90 do wobble when winding in, though I think that the wobbling would not effect the efficiency & effectiveness of fishing itself.
rgds
Amir |
Dylan (Ichthys)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 2:13 pm: | |
Correction pls
Berkley line is 1175yds, 1070m for 19 dhs.
My personal opinion is to stock up on this stuff. Jus my personal opinion folks...no debates pls.
Especialy the lures. The reason being: -
1. they dont have limit to shelf life and will not degrade or depreciate in any way...
2. I intend to be alive and fishing for bout 30 years... God Willing.
3. And the prey aint gonna change their habits, viz a viz, the lures they gravitate for the next 30 years - too short a time to mutate (hehehe)
4. The price of lures, as with all other commodities worldwide, isnt gonna go down as per international trade predictions
CONCLUSION: For this price, buy the as many lures you can and stock em. If you dont use em they can make a nice lil bequeathal in your will or can make a nice b'day gift to your friends on the forum. |
Dylan (Ichthys)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 1:17 pm: | |
jus got back from Sun n Sand...Rapalla, Yozuri, Storm lures are at....guess what discount...scroll down.....
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50% DISCOUNT!!!!
Now get your butts moving and pick the buggers up while they last...
Picked up red n pearl (standard minows and some charteruse which supposedly are incredible with Barras and some more). Also line...mono..Berkley 31lbs, 36 lbs etc etc etc...1147 M...for just frikkin 19 (ONE NINE)dhirams!!!!! I was like a fat kid in a candy store.... |
chris e (Abucatcher)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 10:37 am: | |
hi people...
at last something useful and sensible is being said again... I really enjoy reading this forum. On one side, there is lots of valuable information shared...by lots of people. Thank you guys(you know who you are...
On the other hand...[sarcasm on] all the trivial arguments by and about some people are always a good laugh when i get home after a hard day. Thank you as well. thank you[sarcasm off](please don't take this personally anybody, its not meant personally, if i offended anybody sorry)
Anyways...went out on my friends boat... trolled for 4 hours. planned to go out 6am...he arrived at the marina at 8. so i had two hours at the marina to catch up on sleep. He fished his expensive lures and big(80lb) rods and reels and caught: nothing
My abu, 30 LB powerpro and a rapala magnum RH caught: 4 kingfish(small ones, but at least they're here again) released 3, kept one for the pot.
Haha I learnt once again that balancing your outfit and fishing smart pays off. 80lb standup internationals and kona-heads will catch nothing in the uae.
so whats the word on the street?
I'm gonna be gone for a while, escape the heat and yeah and I'll be back in August.
How are the stellas going boys? treating them well? I just ordered an 8000fa..to be used with 50lb braid for popping/jigging... are they worth the $$?
would be my 2nd rod/reel
chris |
Dylan (Ichthys)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 5:56 am: | |
Hi there Bart..if your looking for 30lbs (about 14+kg) line there's good Berkley mono available at Carrefour - just bout Dhs 16 for 300 meters. Which i feel is dirt cheap. And its extra strength with shock resistance and specificaly for Big Game. Pick it up before its gone. Ive tried it at the creek and the creek park and it sings while it flies. 46mm but feels amazingly supple and light. In fact Ive even used it to rig leaders for Nagroor and shams...we caught 9 good ones this morning - around 5 am. Just below the bridge. Me buddy even got a cat bout 4kilos - which is kinda unually robust for this time of the year. also bagged 11 nice crabs on the side - as an afterthought. Could front em as as a soccer team - with their leg work theyd be a formidable bunch...heeheheh
Anybody out there with opinions pls feel free to advise me otherwise. |
Dylan (Ichthys)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 10:01 am: | |
Super Duper...
Looks like this whole forum has elevated to a new level. Im learning so much with all the exhanges happening with Bart, Rami, Ijlal and others... the whole works. I'm having a great time evesdropping on the tête-à-tête and socking up all the knowledge into the hard drive o mine.
BTW...where can I check this beef stick in Dubai?
And Kim, buddy, you say lets bury the March uncomfortables...duh...what is March??? what uncomfortables??? What were you talking about??? See...Im in deep amnesia already...hehehehe |
Rami Tamimi (Rtamimi)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 8:24 am: | |
Bart, You're welcome.
Also, if you're interested in more selections, try cabelas.com. look the for the Bare Foot rods. I have a few of them for heavy trolling with rolling guides and regular guides too. they are solid fiberglass rods. price is under $75 but action is great for the price. they were developed by a charter captain in the NE section of the US. They come in Offshore, Near shore and inshore rods both spinning and casting.
Also, for the reels. if you dont want to spend much money on the GB90.. try the Daiwa Emcast sports. perfect for Braid and Mono as well.... and the drag is 32lb on lockdown drag on the EMS6000. for this reel check with Ijlal as he mentioned he got one and wanted to sell it at one point of time. Maybe he's still interested in selling it. I use this reel on my Surf rods as well my boat rod as well. |
Bartosz S (Bart)
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Wow im getting alot of good replies!
Thanks Rami. Id prob prefer to buy somethin from a shop here if possible BUT if im not satisfied with whats avialable and prices then I will def look at ordering online!
Looked at the beef stick! definitaly an impressive rod and the combo looks solid! will def take it under consideration.
Regards,
Bart
p.s has no one been fishing lately?!?! |
Bartosz S (Bart)
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Dylan,
Thanks for the advice !!! Yeh you are right i should have been more specific but as usual Ijlal cleared up any possible questions. (he knows his stuff)
The best reels ive ever owned have been daiwa's (or atleast the most durable and well priced) so i have no reason to disagree with ur opinion! and i will most def look at the possibility of getting two different set ups!
If you can give me your email ill send you the picture of the queen. Richie should be putting it up on fish emirates forum soon aswell.
Rgds,
Bart |
Bartosz S (Bart)
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Dear Amir,
Im very interested in the setup ... I actually read your previous posts and noticed this is the one you went for.
Can you advise on location? I probably will not buy till end of june mid of july though...
regards,
Bart |
Bartosz S (Bart)
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Dear Ilal,
Was hoping you would reply!
1- I would actually want a spinning reel.
2 - I want to go after primarily pelagic game fish. Tuna, dolphin, quuen, king . I dont fish GT areas so its not a must, but I do fish areas where big sails and even marlin CAN be hooked up so i think something heavy is in order! (obviosly i understand no spinning reel can handle a big marlin)
3- I intend to cast lures only (and occasionally troll small lures or live bait)
4 - I am a fan of using thinner lines as i think they improve chance of hook up. So 30lb is probably most ill be using.
5- I havent decided yet although briad seems to improve casting distance and lure action (or atleast this is what i think. feel free to correct me.)
Thanks for the reply dude! Look forward to hearing from you soon!
Bart |
si kim (Eunbitsae)
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Dear Dylan,
Didn't we both agree to bury those March uncomfortables under the ground?
Please don't bother yourself by digging them out again, pal.
As you always say.. let's put this crap all behind us.
Cheers!! |
Rami Tamimi (Rtamimi)
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Bart,
A strong rod would be Daiwa Beef stick. they have in Spinning, casting and trolling as well. check Basspro.com for more details about it. you can buy it under $50. and you can match it with a BG90 for the spinning rod. It's a heavy setup but for the money ..it's a good combo. I hope this helps.
Thanks
Rami |
Dylan (Ichthys)
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Pretty spot on Amir...bout the conntroversies etc. And Bart, mate, I did cread your requirements and discuseds it with Syed...coz your requirement is quite the same as mine and about a 100 other people in this region right now.
But rightly, if anyone should advise you it should be firstly a 'question asking session' rather than an 'answer giving session' and I guess Syed has posted some pertinent questions - the anserws to which will determine what gear you may have to go for.
BG 90 is a superb reel - minus the braid element. Which means GT hunting could be hindered. But then how often are you gonna go for GT's? etc etc etc ... you need to make a more focused priority list and in all probability you may have to go for 2 sets of tackles.
Just posting my feedback mate. if it aint of use just put it on iggy mode and forget all bout it.
Have a nice day - both Amir and Bart...
BTW: congrats Bart on the Qeenie you caught buddy. Its a record of sorts. Post the pics if any.
Penn slammer is available in Sun & Sand and the last time I visited there was one BG90 at Marine World - Al Ras.But dont call them and ask specifically for BG90 coz the guy is a bloody shylock and will up the price. |
Dylan (Ichthys)
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No Kim, I dont agree with you that I am open minded etc etc. In fact I revisited some of my rambling posting in March to you and I was so bloody ASHAMED. I couldnt believe it was me that said all those things. I sounded so bigoted and angry and prejudiced and judgemental...And I cringed like a wet cat and wished I could erase the damn postings from the forum.
But in a way I guess its good I cant coz one needs to see the crap one does in black & white from time to time in order to remain "well grounded". As the saying goes "forgetting is a boon from God" coz it makes room in our conscious mind for new impressions. But sometimes this boon can also be a curse coz we forget the way we hurt people and the insensitive manner in which we behaved. Memory can be sneakly selective and cunning.But the written word doesnt lie.
Hence, I try on an everyday basis to revisit my mistakes and forget achievements so I remain on an upward learning curve - mostly in my relationship with people. We live just once and once is all we have to forge friendships.
My prayer every morning is
"God grant me the Serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
Courage to change the things I can;
and Wisdom to know the difference."
For above all virtues is Wisdom. Often knowledge is mistaken for wisdom. While knowledge is merely a accumulation of data...wisdom concludes with how we assimilate that data and implement it. Raw data by itself is quite futile.
And you have on many occassions responded to my silly tirades with wisdom and patience. If you must know... I have developed a great deal of respect for your sense of "balance" and Chi..."
Ciao for now mate |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Hi Bart,
I guess among so many large posts of controversies, people could not notice your post  .
Any how, the best people to guide you would be Ijlal, Abdul & Pranab.
However,my requirements were exactly the same as yours ( but with budget constraints) and I got some good advice from Ijlal.
I bought a Daiwa BG 90 (AED300) and a Penn Slammer 7 feet (15-30 lb) Rod (AED 245) which could be used for bottoming and trolling from the boat.
The Reels are available in Diera Creek side & the Rods are available at Sun & Sand sports shop.
Do let me know if you are interested in the above setup as i could guide you to the place in Deira for the Reel.
rgds
Amir |
Syed Ijlal Hussain (Ijlal)
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Dear Bart,
Please enlighten me over a few questions I have in mind so I may be able to recommend something to you.
1. Am I correct in assuming you are looking for a casting (baitcasting/conventional) and not a spinning setup?
2. What type of fish do you intend going after; does the list include GTs?
3. What do you intend casting with the rod? Please advise lure or sinker and bait weight.
4. What breaking strength line do you intend using with it? 20lb, 30lb, 40lb or more.
5. Do you intend using mono or braid?
I'll be more than happy to help you in selecting a decent combo once you answer the above questions-if my limited knowledge permits so.
Thanks,
Ijlal |
Bartosz S (Bart)
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Dear Guys,
Any tips on the gear I asked about earlier ? Seems everyone has become scared to give their opinion. For the record any advice you may have is welcome!!!!!
Bart |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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G8 that you guys have started to patch up with each other. Now please try to catch up with the ground lost so far in the forum.
Keep fishing & importantly keep reporting here on the forum.
rgds
amir |
si kim (Eunbitsae)
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Dear Pranab,
Now, I feel much better to know that at least you are not loosing friendship.
Since your kind phone call yesterday, we have cleared up most of the misapprehensions between you and me.
And I am pleased to see also you and Dylan are going to do the same. Maybe it is due to your fundanmentally tender human nature.
Now, you said, you got to know what the problems were. I hope you to keep those securely in mind and hope you don't repeat those kinds
of "mistakes"(as you say) in the future. Anyway, everything will be fine. So.. cheer up, pal !!
Dylan,
It's very nice to see you to offer your warm hand to Pranab first coz he was concerned about you guys' relationship during our conversations
over the phone. You are much more open-minded guy than I, as I did not offer Pranab a hand from my side, before he gave me a call yesterday.
Cheers!! |
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Abdul,
The GTKevlar popping blanks have landed...one already hijacked. One left for you! Call me!
fishpals |
Dylan (Ichthys)
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Dearest Pranab....
Remember, u were the one who introduced me to this forum and you were the one who got me outa the inertia - I had stopped fishing for 7 years and got back "on the boat" after meeting you under the bridge. Yes, I was catching about 6 to 7 kilos of badha and mullet and cat fish every week but it was still "ameture" fishing. So I'm greatful to you buddy.
Now...importantly, you mention "you dont want people to hate you" in your posting. Buddy "hate" is a very very strong term. I could never ever hate you. I couldnt even "dislike" you. Life is too beautiful to go around carrying emotional bombs strapped to one's disposition. Thats being truly suicidal. I am..or rather, WAS, dissapointed with you. Thats all. Now that its all behind us lets start over and put this crap all behind us.
Since you mentioned on the forum about you gettig home to a locked door....a lil bit of advice from a brother - no frikkin fish in the 7 seas is worth more than family. Fuk all the fish and reels and rods and lines and bait and lures and all this bull$hit...family comes FIRST. Even before one's own life.
Bye for now mate. Call me tomorrow and maybe we could meet over a cup of coffee... |
Dylan (Ichthys)
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Dear Syed ... dont give us all this bollocks about you recovering etc lad di dah YOU OLD PIRATE!! you could probably wing a GT on half a leg and a song. You could probably use spinach for bait and grab a marlin or a plastic bag to land a nice cat fish... God knows...your so fullo tricks that keep comin outa the bag...but ever so gently. HEHEHHE.
Anyways, it nice that youve gotta out of the blue and writing on the forum. Welcome back Mr. Long John Silver (with the crutch and eye patch and all...) Yo Ho HO..an a bottle o rum!!!
Now go back to sleep and dream of angels you miserable marauder of the deep...ANGELS buddy...NOT Angel Fish!!
Ciao for niao |
Abdul Latif (Jigwrex)
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Dear Syed,
Huh? What's the congratulation for? Like I mentioned, the team went on the trip not to seek recognitions or anything of that sort BUT rather to experience the whole thing "in the flesh" rather than just being satisfied with the stories we kept on hearing from others. Sort of doing an "acid test" on the whole thing, I would say.
Glad to hear about your speedy recovery and insya'allah we'll fish together again when the next season arrives!
Cheers! |
Syed Ijlal Hussain (Ijlal)
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Dear Abdul Latif,
Sorry not to have congratulated you and your team on a wonderful GT hunt, so do forgive me; please understand I have not been in the mood of writing anything.
My leg is getting better and I should be able to stand up with minimal support within a month or two (IA.) Hopefully, we should then be able to fish together again in the next season.
As you say, "Soon, soon...."
Take care mate,
Ijlal |
Bartosz S (Bart)
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Guys quick question.
I need a boat rod (1 piece) and reel which can be used for both trolling and casting. Im not bothered about fancy names but would like something SOLID and ROBUST. the waters here are really tough on equipment, as you all probably know, so I value durability. Obviously I want to go with one of the major makes, as they are the best build quality, but im not willing to spend a fortune! So put simply: i need a work horse!
Any suggestions welcome, along with places to find the equipment!
Thanks in advance |
Abdul Latif (Jigwrex)
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FOR SALE!
Spinning reel Shimano NAVI 8000PG (Hardly used)
6stainless steel ball bearings + 1 roller bearing
Fully spooled with 300yrds of 50lbs Tufline XP (US made)braid....(never been used).
Max drag rated at 11kgs.
Original line band also included.
Box and manual also included.
Original costs AED500(reel) + AED 130(braid)
Selling for AED450(or nearest offer)
Reason for selling.......looking for a reason to buy new gears!!!!!!!!.....before the start of the new season.
Call +971 50 5528348 (if interested) |
Abdul Latif (Jigwrex)
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Welcome back Syed!
How's the leg doin'? Glad to hear from you after quite sometime.
Cheers! |
Abdul Latif (Jigwrex)
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Guys,
If any of you guys are planning to make any purchases from Sun & sand....please wait a little longer as I had just been informed by a "highly reliable" source that they will be giving storewide discounts during the DSS!
Cheers! |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Thanks Ijlal,
As i liked the feel of BG 90, so i went ahead and also bought BG60 and would use it for casting. Would try the reel out this week end and check out if it gives any problem while casting.
Also thanks alot for your continued telephonic guidance during my gear purchase. I am still looking for a 2 piece 7-8 feet casting rod to be used with a 20-30 lb line capable of handling up to 3-4 ounce lures / sinkers. But as usual, the rice should be around 200-250.
Any advise on the rod and the place from where i should check it out.
rgds
Amir |
Syed Ijlal Hussain (Ijlal)
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Hello Ahmed,
Welcome to the forum. The last time I saw Slammer reels was at Sun and Sand in Jumeira Area, near the public beach (not really sure as I live in Abu Dhabi.) They had the models you have asked for but their prices were quite high. You may however, note that this was on 28-March. The very next day, I met with an unfortunate accident and fractured my leg, and have not visited any tackle store ever since.
Thanks,
Ijlal |
Syed Ijlal Hussain (Ijlal)
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Amir,
There is no defect in the Black Gold Series reels. These reels are some of the longest lived reels - The type that is handed down from father to son. It is just that these were designed much before the popularity of braided and other super lines. Meant for heavier monofilament, and being relatively cheap, the BG Series does not incorporate special gearing to move the spool in and out slowly or at a varied pace. Thus the line layout on the spool is in a criss-cross pattern. This is not a big problem but can limit your casting distance, and may not prove to be the best type of layout for braided lines. Otherwise, there is no need to worry. Just take a little care of your reel, and enjoy it for a lifetime!
Thanks,
Ijlal |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Hi Mohd,
You can check out Sun & Sand Sports on the 1st floor Deira City Center. They have have a variety of Penn gear.
rgds
Amir |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Hi Guys,
Is there any rocket science behind the wobbling of the Daiwa BG60/90 reels or else it is a defect which they are yet to rectify.
Iam confused, would the wobbling of the reel have any negative effect on fishing.
rgds
Amir |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Hi Guysm,
Is there any rocket science behind the wobbling of the Daiwa BG60/90 reels or else it is a defect which they are yet to rectify.
Iam confused, would the wobbling of the reel have any negative effect on fishing.
rgds
Amir |
PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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HOW ADDICTIVE FISHING CAN BE
Early 2007 I went into mussandam . That is the time I got hooked into fishing . When I came back I started to find out more about fishing . I stumbled upon a site addictive fishing . It got me interested more but then I found this name addictive fishing is little bit weird . But today when I write this post at early morning 6 from my office I understand how addictive this game have been in my life . Not only in my life but to many others who are attached to it .
By 7-3-2007 I got my fishing license . I started visiting every nook and corner of uae trying to find fishing spots right from Dubai till RAK . I was so much involved since then when ever I saw people fishing at the water side I went ahead and made friendship with them . I really don’t know how many people I introduced to this forum . It’s a fact also that when some new angler came to dubai and was waiting for their gears to come over from their last country of residence I have given my own equipment to them . Because I wanted this fishing community in dubai to grow .
I was so much addicted to this game that I have gone from my office straight back to a particular forum members house and we spoke about fishing till 1 midnight so many times only to return home to find the door locked by my wife .
Its true I neglected my family because of this game . I always think human relationship comes before everything . Because to me friendship is very precious . That’s the reason I tried to reach almost the forum members who got uncomfortable due to some of my postings .
I think I could not reach Dylan because he was too upset and udupa because I don’t have his number .
MISTAKE 1
V80SA VS ISSUE
I read about this reel long back about and in fact 2 months back I asked amir who is a forum member to go and have a look at this reel as its quite lowly priced and affordable . Ijlal called me over phone & asked me I can go and have a look at it as Dylan was going to buy it . Ijlal also told me pranab if you don’t decide to buy please let me know .
So I decided to go along with Dylan and have a look at the reel . In fact I carried the money to buy it . After looking at the reel I was unable to find the 90 drag rating mentioned any where . I handled the reel for a few mins and decided I should save my money to go for a Shimano reel later . We went to another branch of al fajar and Dylan picked up the second reel which he liked . I told him he should go for the reel if he is feeling comfortable .
Mistake that I did . I came back and posted my on the forum to ijlal that I am not buying it . The intention was not to make Dylan uncomfortable but to tell ijlal that he can pick up the reel as there was only 1 unit left behind . I even spoke to alfajar to block the reel for ijlal so possibly mohammed who was then in dubai can carry the reel for ijlal . I never thought my this stupid mistake of informing ijlal over the net can hurt my dear friend Dylan who has already purchased the reel .
MISTAKE 2
ROD BREAKING ISSUE
I knew people were breaking rods world famous rods out there in mussandam long before our GT extreme team planned their trip . The forum member who organized this trip told me first about this trip . I opted out because I thought its hot and end of the season but more importantly I was saving money for Japanese reel .
I know my posts on this issue has also hurt members feeling here . I wanted to know the reason world famous rods are getting broken in mussandam . Because these same rods were not broken in the Australian or in Indonesia targeting the same fish . I had been talking on this issue to fellow fishermen who themselves have this experience .
Yes its true I never went for GT hunt . My mistake was trying to share what I was hearing from other friends about the logic why the rods were broken . Every one was of same opinion that the rods were broken due to wrong handling of the angler . And it’s the over setting of drag along with ocean current boat machine power which becomes too much for the rod to bear .
I think my mistake was to get over excited about what I thought I was learning and trying to share and stop my friends break rods . That is the sole purpose of me telling my friends to go out there with proper gears like STELLA and SMITH .
But I forgot one thing . People might misunderstand my intentions and think I am lecturing . They might think why is this guy telling oceanactive carries STELL and SMITH equipments when he had not been there . Now I have realized how my close friends on the forum have started looking at me . After talking to them I was not sad they point me out my mistakes . Because that’s what friends are to point mistake to help to correct a person so he is not hated by others .
What really hurt me was a comment that experienced anglers are leaving this forum because of my posts and the worst they are not coming back . Which I was completely ignorant about . I thought they are proud and they are not sharing . I admit it’s a complete mistake of mine . I realize its now today after having spoken to the forum members personally what mistake I was doing .
MISTAKE NO 3
And finally about fishing methods of going for a GT hunt . Please I must admit its another mistake of mine trying to say what I would have done if I was there . There was absolutely no need for that . Because I could have jolly well kept my ideas and tested them when I am there. Either way failure or success would have been mine . As abdul rightly said you have to be there to find out cheap halco poppers were more effective instead of expensive poppers which I pictured before the day of the trip .
I know my mistakes that has caused a lot of hurting to people who are close to me as my fishing friends cant be forgiven . But though this post of mine I did not try to justify my mistakes or to gather sympathy but tried to tender my apology to those members who have stopped coming to this forum because of my writing style . I just want to tell them I am extremely sorry and want all of them come back with their rich experience so the forum would be a better place for me and many more new comers who can share and enrich their fishing skills .
Regards
pranab |
Dylan (Ichthys)
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Dear Mohd Ahmed and Amir...bros..with all humility, I too am on a steep learning curve and I frequently refer to Syed Ijlal and Abdul whenever I get into a buying mode. I could have tunneled the web but when you have the best of experts and enthusiasts in my own backyard - with real time experience - I'm gonna be wise and stay this side of the fence.
Now bout the penn slammer - its available at Sun & Sand but most are casting rods - not spinning rods (learned the difference from Syed). They also have Penn Power Stick. But the problem is the rods are of a range from 15 lbs to 40lbs. And If youre thinking of real big game like GT you'll need a range of 20lbs to 60lbs...I recommend this coz I'm rather new to this and dont have the expertise to PLAY and TIRE the fish with a 20lbs rod the way veterens do. The GT may probalby break my rod and my arm too..hehehe. Dont wanna take the chance.
In fact Abdul got me a nice Sea Scorpion from Brunei (20 - 60lbs spinning rod - a real beauty)which I intend to try out this Sept when the season begins.
Mabrook on buying your Penn slammer Amir. About the reel though, right now, thanks to guidance from Syed and Abdul I have an Okuma V80SA. Before September Inshallah, I intend to pick up a couple more - maybe Penn or the Saltiga. So at this moment I just cannot say exactly what reel I'm gonna use but I shall surely be taking copious notes and advice from the big guns in this forum.
But the facts of the matter are this: -
1. Before the fish lands on your hook its 50% research/location and 50% luck
2. Once its ON THE HOOK...its 30% equipment technology and 70% technique.
Therefore the best advise I can offer right now is you speak to guys like Syed, Abdul, Udupa etc coz these are not just experienced but are generous with their time and objective with their opinions.
All in all I'm sure we'll all have a great season ahead of us and feel free to call me any time on 050 2133701. Although I am new I could give you some mean pointers for all its worth coz i'm an voracious learner.
But in case you want any advice on hunting - especially in tropical rain forests - then I'm your MAN!! No charges. Been doin it since I was 10 yrs old. Teeheehee.
Bye for now and g'night Mohd and Amir...or good morning as the case may be coz its 1.51 am now God Bless.
<<<<<yaaaawn>>>>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
mohd ahmed saleh sunni (Ahmed)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 26, 2008 - 8:58 am: | |
Hi Dylan or Amir,where can I buy a penn slammer in Dubai.Dylan where's this Marine world and is a Penn slammer available there?Please let me know if you do come across a Penn Slammer 360 and 560 spinning reel
cheers |
Abdul Latif (Jigwrex)
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All that I request from everyone is to stay focused on the very main objective of this forum.
***to share our (fishing)experiences so as to enrich everybody's skill and knowledge***
Kindly refrain from making HIGHLY JUDGEMENTAL comments and try not to talk about "Second-hand" info/experiences as if its your own. This is the very same reason why the GT extreme team had decided to venture into the waters of Oman.....to actually experience the actual GT hunt....in the flesh! Not that we don't believe that the GTs are stong fighters nor their sizes(or weights), more of trying to actually feel the "real stuff" as opposed to just contended to just hearing the stories as had been told.
As I had said before, its an experience worth all the trouble and money spent.
As for me, I also use it to actually test my gears; the Stella, the Ajiking rod, the rapala Titanium Braid and not to mention all the poppers/chuggers which I am having(which I discovered had been out performed by the "supercheap" HALCO poppers!
At least NOW I ams fully confident of the Stella, the braid and the rod...(minus the guides, which were completely unusable now) which will need of a more durable guides, probably those from FUJI or Pacific Bay.
Now I and others also realise the need of high rating shock leaders in areas with sharp rock or reefs formations.
At least now we can say "Been there and done that!"
We certainly don't need any controversy or conflict in this forum!
Cheers! |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 26, 2008 - 2:30 am: | |
Hi Dylan,
Please do let me know how the Slammer works as I bought one but have not tried it yet. Which reel you intend to use with the Slammer.
rgds
amir |
Dylan (Ichthys)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 26, 2008 - 1:54 am: | |
Dear Ijlal bhai,
Let me emphatically state that it was MY problem. And had nothing to do with you as a person. Me, I.. felt hurt about Pranab's postings. it was MY initiative to respond. I kept silent for 6 days ...and saw the crap this guys was posting on the forum - in a total state of blissful denial about how his comments hurt people. And all the time (6 days) he has behaved like HE WAS THE VICTIM!!! And I could take no more of this pretentious bull$hit. He kept harping on his "right to state opinions". The problem is not his "right to opinions". The problem is that this guy posts his opinions with total insolence, apathy and disregard to other people's feelings and worse, all his opinions are half baked plagiarisms lifted off the net and most are cocked up. Even worse is that even professional members with experience cant post a single view without this guy butting in with his 2 penny worth of garbled feedback. It gets very tiresome.
You give him advise..he'll criticize it. You dont give him advise...he will cry "this forum has selfish egotistical people who dont want to share". Now, what the frikk can you do with this man??????
I have yet to see a guy with the audacity to "lecture" people who have caught GT on how to hunt GT... including fantasies of 40 kg monsters diving 10 meters @ 90 degrees and gnashing leads against cliff edges and advising skippers reverse the boat bla bla yakkityakyak...when he hasnt even caught a minnow or chucked a single line in mussandam.
I think it is high time this guy knew his place in order to keep this forum free of personal issues and clutter free from currupt data. On the 21st I had given this guy a piece of my mind on the phone and he could have easily thrashed it out with me persnally as a mature adult. But he chose to wash his dirty laundry in public and angle for sympathy votes on the forum like a spoiled kid. And now its cluttering up the forum.
After this note I'm gonna burry this issue. its gone the mile and has to stop.
You, dear ijlal, are a thorough gentleman and a decent stand-up rock solid human being and you have not said a single word of discontent over this issue. And I respect you for that. Once again...It was me.I felt, after 6 days of restrain, I had to put things in perspective so this guy would finally see the light. And I apologize to you if my postings have put you in an uncomfortable position. Truly sorry. My mistake.
Regardless, I still want to have access to your "ear" when I need advise and direction. And thank you so much for tele-guiding me through the Penn Slammer yesterday. Your inputs and patience, as always, are invaluable. Over n Out bro. |
Dylan (Ichthys)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 26, 2008 - 1:05 am: | |
Sorry to Abdul. Kim, Ashley, Mohd and Bryant - this message is overdue.
BIGGGGGG TIME KICK ASSSS GT HUNTING GUYS!!!
MABROOOOK!!
I am very happy for you guys. I dont know Ashley, Mohd & Bryant, but I do know it was a "first" for Kim and Abdul and man, you guys have raised the bar really high!! Terrific. I have fowarded the pictures to several people and they are now probably doing the rounds from Venezuela to Vladivostock ....Anchorage to the Antartic.
But I also have a confession. I'm just human. so while I'm very happy for you - I also envy you too. (boohoohoo) why couldnt I have been on that trip.....I explained it to Abdul the other day.
Pls note that I'm not JEALOUS (thats a very base sentiment). It is a healthy robust honorable envy I feel. One that celebrates your success and sets standards for me to emulate. To use an oxymoron - "a delicious pain". Hehehehe.
And I heard you chucked even the shark back into the ocean...Dayyyyyymmmm it!!! I can only imagine how it woulda been crackling on my barbecue or sizzling in my pot...and this makes me very angry..GRRRR. Lucky shark ...probalby it's fled to the Australian reefs and warning all its brethren that Mussandam is a no-go.
Next time pls dont be so kind...your kindness to fish could give me a bloody heart attack mate!
20 bloody kilos of delicious gourmet cousine...and you THREW THE THING BACKKKKK
BOOOHOOOHOOOO...WAAAAAA WAAAAAA.
Bye for now everybody. Let me go to my corner and continue crying...snif snif |
Syed Ijlal Hussain (Ijlal)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 26, 2008 - 12:52 am: | |
Dear Friends,
I IMPLORE you to please stop behaving in this childish manner and not fight, and MOST CERTAINLY NOT OVER ME! Please.... |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Hi pranab,
its a free forum and every one should voice their opinion here. People who have left the forum, dont contribute anymore and people who have'nt left, contribute to the fourm.
I would suggest, pls continue.
rgds
Amir |
PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 11:38 pm: | |
hi guys ,
will say sorry to kim , udupa,dylan and specially to ijlal , because i feel my comments on this forum was misunerstood .
By the way i speak regularly to ijlal but i never heard him voice he was displeased . But even then may be he expressed it to others .
Once again thanks to every one over here to enable me to gather knowledge with the communication i had while in the forum .
From the posts it seems that my posts have given an impression to other fellow members here that i was trying to get attention or trying to prove i am more knowledgable .
I have never been in that race . Nor i will be . It seems i am the only problem to the forum . And if i keep quite all the fights will disappear .
So i would just be a listener . And may be then all the experienced anglers who left this forum will come back and help every one out here .
Got a small request to every one out here . Please make this forum a better place without my comments .
I think this is the first time i stood my ground and replied . Every time in the past i have kept quite of what ever was going around trying to pacify anglers fighting here .
As i love fishing i will be visiting this forum on a regular basis . But it will sadden me to see future fights if there is at all .
With regards
and love for every one
pranab |
Dylan (Ichthys)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 5:35 pm: | |
Pranab ...your going senile man...
What Kim meant about "going offa the subject" was your tirade about people being selfish on this forum and how people dont share info and how real anglers should behave and share rods and experiences and this forum being full of egotists etc la di dah blah blah blah.... As usual Pranab, even this comment you interpreted wrong and launched you trademark verbal diarrhoea.
You are always bickering and complaining and making sorry noises about this forum. Why then is it you keep coming on? Its strange. A love-hate relationship is it? Come on Pranab...cheer up man.
You say the best way in this forum is to "listen" but then in the very next breath you launch into a loooooong sleep inducing lecture...whew...
And by the way, Kim was right. That fish I caught off Port Rashid in Dubai was NOT a GT as you claimed...it was a Golden Trevaly. A much smaller cousin of the GT. Eat this! and let this subject be burried and whatever misunderstanding that resulted between Kim and me from this GT stuff is not your concern. Mind your own business. |
Dylan (Ichthys)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 5:15 pm: | |
Pranab...this one is long...and will be the last hopefully. Better print it out and do some night reading....hehehehe
Let’s cut out the anonymous semantics – You were the one, who in the first place, decided to use the forum to criticize a very personal dialogue between Syed Ijlal and me. You butted in, uninvited, and turned a cordial, amicable and earnest exchange of ideas between two people into a nasty, obnoxious squabble by belittling his views and insulting my sentiments with your pompous bull$hit “criticisms” disguised as “opinions”.
I have no problem about you airing opinions man. You can air them till your turn blue. But it IS a problem when you Butt In on a PRIVATE dialogue between 2 people, and then sneak off and pass judgment on the subject IN PUBLIC. Your opinions don’t bother me. What pissed me off was the malicious and sneaky manner in which you criticized Syed’s recommendations directly on the forum instead of first discussing it with him or me.
His advice was EXCLUSIVELY FOR ME. It was private one-on-one advice he gave me – which you learned by chance when you called him. Therefore you should have respected the “private” spirit of the discussion. You had no right to criticize it in public. Not that it was some big bloody secret. It is just the “principle” of the matter. It is rude, uncouth and offensive to criticize in public what someone has divulged to you in confidence or in private. As an adult I expected you to exhibit discretion and sensitivity but I guess you're just a kid, always trying to draw attention to himself by showing off with long winded diatribes camouflaged as “opinions”.
THINK for a second - You’re into shipping right? What if I came to you privately and asked your advise on shipping a container to Kenya? And you study my brief and give me your sincere best logistic solution. I then take it away to study . But the next day you find out that I have gone and ridiculed your proposal as ‘shoddy and second-rate” with a group of executives in another company without even informing you. No matter what the logic or reasons I may have – this would be a fukked up thing to do. And that’s exactly what you did man. You're a sneaky lil bugger who wants to scavenge on any opportunity to come out looking like some big time tidily winks fishing expert..
You became aware of Syed’s recommendations for me – and then used the forum to denigrate it just so you would appear to be Mr.Smarty Pants who knows more than Syed – and not really because you cared to give a sincere opinion.
LETS REVISIT THE ISSUE ONE STEP AT A TIME
For 3 days Syed and I had deliberated reel options. I consulted Syed coz I respect his experience and judgment. He was most kind to share research and exchange multi dimensional data to help me make an informed buy and I’m grateful to him and Abdul for their invaluable inputs. And all this time you merely kept harping on BG90.
The last day you learned about Syed’s recommendation of the V80a. for me
That evening .. surprise surprise…you call me and “confidentially” advise me to buy…guess what?!! Okuma V80a!! because YOU, Pranab, had done research for a friend and YOU, Pranab, felt it is as good as Stella and I should buy it at once.(you mentioned nothing about your talk with Syed or Abdul’s research on the Vsystem). It was YOU, Mr SeaExplorer all the way!!
You then invited yourself to go with me to Al Fajar that evening – and I took you.
You then come back and INSTEAD OF CALLING SYED OR ME ABOUT YOUR SO CALLED “OPINIONS”…POST YOUR CRAP DIRECTLY ON THE INTERNET
If you truly wanted to contribute constructive criticism or opinion regards the V80 the decent and civilized thing to do was to PICK UP THE PHONE AND TALK to Syed or me about it. The forum for our discussions was “personal telephone” and not the public domain on www.fishreports.net.
So the question is …why did you so pompously post your half baked criticisms directly on the forum instead of having the decency to call Syed or me first?????
The real reason you used the forum to state your opinion on V80 was NOT to share information BUT to SHOWOFF you self proclaimed expertise - that you were more intelligent than Syed and you know better. You used the forum to try and upstage him. You were being sneaky…your only intention was to showoff to others how smart you were And THAT Mr. Pranab is what pissed me off and still does – until you apologize to Syed.
You voicing your opinion didn't bother me. But the method by which you did it, taking a private matter public just to masquerade and pull another sincere, well meaning and highly experienced member down showed me your true bigoted intentions. Like a pusillanimous wimp.
And for all your big time professorial lectures you barely know what you're talking about…take a read below….
You recommend the BG90 to everyone as though you were the design engineer in its development – but when I took you to Marine World and had the guy take an unpacked piece off the shelf so you, the expert, could check out …YOU DID NOT EVEN KNOW HOW TO ENGAGE THE LEVER (HANDLE). YOU WERE FUMBLING AROUND UNTIL I SHOWED YOU THE NUT TO UNSCREW!!!!
Secondly, while recommending the BG60 & 90 to all and sundry you weren’t even aware of the ‘wobble’ factor in the reel which causes problems in line-lay when using braid until I informed you. I learned this from Syed and Abdul because I asked and I opened my mind and my ears and shut my mouth and listened to people with more experience than me and didn't pretend to be an expert.
And for all your expertise on reels and gear ratios blah blah blah you’re full of wind again…. You say the gear ratio of V65sa is 5:8:1 (ie: 5 is to 8 is 1). This means there are 3 dimensions to the gears. That’s nonsense. You don’t even know how to read/write gear ratios. The gear ratio is correctly expressed as 5.8:1 - ie: five POINT eight is to One.
And further…you go into spasms of verbal heaves over the V65sa because of its 5:8:1 gear ratio – Mr Pranab SeaExplorer…the gear ratio of the V65sa is NOT 5 is to 8 is to 1, or even 5 point 8 is to1. It is actually 6.2:1!!!! Do your homework man. Get your facts right before you go lecturing to the world. But then I guess every pack of cards has to have its joker.
As I said at the beginning, I don’t despise you for all this unpleasantness and controversy you have caused. I am not even angry with you or whatever. I am just disappointed coz I had a higher opinion of you. In fact I even feel sorry for you. Maybe, as Udupa suggested, you should go out and actually catch some real fish...it may be a healing process for you and ease your frsutrated and troubled mind. Maybe you just need to step back and take a breather and sort yourself out.. I still extend you my hand of friendship to you but the hand will be a lot more warmer if you apologize to Syed. Bye. |
Dylan (Ichthys)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 2:58 pm: | |
Pranab...i SAW your postings...and am still rolling around laughing my guts out. Remind me to actually READ them when I have time left over from walking my dog.
By the way the fishing fantisies of your febrile mind and your penchant for the "virtual experience" compells me to advise you to write a childrens novel..."Virtual Fishing Adventures on IE6 by SeaExplorer" would be a good title for a start coz you have no REAL experience and your fishing expeditions are almost all on the Internet rather than the Sea. We could make a movie out of it...but first you gotta change your ID from SeaExplorer to NetExplorer.
Look foward to my next posting buddy...where I have done a nice lil post mortem of your troubled mind and the reasons why you are always seeking "external validation" and your compulsive need for seeking attention (like an insecure child)
Bye for now...and leave that mouse alone.
PS: I see more postings from you about Abdul & Co's trip to Mussandam than the guys themselves. And you seem to be malignantly preoccupied with Kim's rod breaking rather than the fantastic GT's he landed. You seem to be drawing some perverted pleasure on pondering the broken rod rather than seeing the bigger picture - they had 6 hits and landed 5!!!!!! which is an effeciency rate of 83 frikkin %. That's incredible. And Kim landed 2!!And all you do is blah blah blah about the broken rod. FuK the rod man. Look at the fish they landed - and SHUT UP and LISTEN.
LEARN TO LISTEN AND LISTEN TO LEARN.
This is just good advise mate...and I still offer you a hand of friendship. The only condition is that you GROW UP and take the diapers outa your ears. |
Abdul Latif (Jigwrex)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 5:47 am: | |
Udupa,
The weights were as per the estimates by the highly experienced skippers, Richard and FC.
BTW, as for myself, will refrain from making comments on 2nd hand info or on other people experiences.
Ciao! |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 5:33 am: | |
Hi guys,
Please cool down and let forgive & forget. This forums needs guys like you because of the knowledge you guys have.
BTW there is a saying that Fishers are the biggest liers in the world.
rgds
Amir |
si kim (Eunbitsae)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 5:17 am: | |
My dear Pranab,
OK, I will accept your advice. But just one thing that I have to make it clear here.
Without any caution, you keep on saying in public that I called somebody's catch a minnow, but you have to be very carefull for that kind of "slander".
I think I know what you are talking about. After our previous trip off post Rashid, you reported on the forum that we got a "GT" there.
Somebody doubtfully asked if there really are GTs off port Rashid.
I said "It was a trevally, not GT. As fishermen tend to exaggerate their catch, sometimes a mackarel can become a tuna."
You remember? It was a METAPHOR to warn you not to exaggerate when you make a report.
It was not to degrade anyone's catch. The target of the metphor was your habbitual exaggeration!!!
Please stop making others misunderstand that I really called somebody's catch a minnow.
Since then, I have given you consistent advices not to exaggerate, not to try to show off, etc.
I tried to do so as a friend with a good will. But now I understand that you take it as an offence.
OK, then.. I will not bother you any more. It's really simple for me to ignore your post if it is useless.
But, Pranab, please understand now you are loosing another pal who had cared for you and your creditability.
Cheers!! |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 12:57 am: | |
Hi Pranab,
As discussed the last time we met. Please try to arrange a boat trip as me & Ali are eager to go for one, including yourself as your guidance would be important during the trip.
rgds
amir |
Bartosz S (Bart)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 12:50 am: | |
hi pranab,
how exactly would i post the picture? Ill try do it when i get home a lil later. or if you want i can email it to you.
Rgds,
Bart |
