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Sheryl Trego (Playing_hooky)
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 7-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 6:20 pm: | |
Harrell, We're sorry to hear about your motor, we saw you going up the highway when we were coming home. We did fish PSL sat. and sun.. We trolled down by the coke plant for nada sat. till around two, then went for salmon. We were about 2 miles south of the red light in about 140 ft. of water and hooked- up two in about a half hour. They were caught on strait lures, gold crock, and gold watermelon spoon. Sun. did catch a halibut around the pea patch, and then went for salmon again, the one we caught today came in 135 ft. of water 1&1/2 miles south of the red light. There were good bait balls and metered fish. Good luck to the mid-week fisherman. Ed & Sheryl |
Wes (Slotroller)
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Post Number: 78
Registered: 10-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 5:15 pm: | |
Harrell
That sucks! If we didn't have a full crew I'd say hop on...
That is good info. I'm still real curious about the water from the PSL to the Donut and the nice edge around the 121.40 line.
Some Yellows would be nice! |
HARRELL kIMBALL (Catmakai)
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Post Number: 496
Registered: 8-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 4:45 pm: | |
I just got back from putting my boat in the water at Avila but one engine would not start so I had to bring it back home for troubleshooting which means I won't be out there with you guys tomorrow . The only time in seven years that I have had a problem with my Hondas.
Here is what I know, so far, about today. There were 8 albacore caught by three boats and the last I heard some of them found a big school of yellowtail under a paddy. They were from 50 to 60 nm out and around 35:10 and 122:00 plus or minus a few miles. They indicated that bait would have made a big difference.
Good luck ! |
Kier Staeheli (Seabird)
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 8-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 3:07 pm: | |
I'm in for tomorrow - from MB. I would love to hear that there were more than just one or two stray LFT's caught today. Coordinates would be awesome too.
SeaBird on 68. |
Wes (Slotroller)
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Post Number: 77
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 12:37 pm: | |
Hey Harrell
Thanks for the info, I'm sure more will be available before the day is over. It is great to hear there are fish in range!
We are going from Morro. I hear there is no live bait there, that is a bummer but I don't want to mess with the sling or have a curfew.
If you want to coordinate give me a call, 801-7061.
Thanks again.
Wes |
HARRELL kIMBALL (Catmakai)
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Post Number: 495
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 12:16 pm: | |
Wes;
That is all I know right now. Is your boat on a mooring at Avila or are you going out of Morro ? I will probably be going out of Avila. Deke will be there at 3:30 |
Wes (Slotroller)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 10:44 am: | |
Harrell
We are going to run about 3am, any numbers or more information would be greatly appreciated.
Did anyone explore the water around the PSL?
Thanks
Wes |
HARRELL kIMBALL (Catmakai)
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Post Number: 494
Registered: 8-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 10:07 am: | |
Got ALBACORE !!!
Albacore are being caught right now at 50 miles out of Morro Bay above the Elbow. |
mike moore (Moorefish)
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Post Number: 105
Registered: 5-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 9:04 pm: | |
Decided to try something new after 14 stellar trips to our islands. Well, Al Rich and I fished from MDR on 8/04 for 5 dorado and 3 yellows. Lost too many. Largest mahi went 25-lbs and was caught right at dark. Decided to babysit the kelp overnight and got the ultimate trough ride only to wake to one missing paddy. Frickin MIA!!!! What the %$^# over? !! Fricking Russian Trawler must have picked it off under our wing Ok, well we found another weed late for 5 more fish 24-miles from MDR. Water 75.2 and a jumping marlin in our sights. What a year. Stumbled upon blue whales feeding, get this, within 1/2 mile of the beach at Rocky Pt!
Mike, 25' Skipjack
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Josh Conrad (Conman)
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Post Number: 51
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 8:16 pm: | |
Bayside is now reporting albacore caught 18-25 miles on a 238 heading! Water is going to be flat calm sunday and monday. Good luck to anybody that goes. |
mark godfrey (The_mistrsess)
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Post Number: 20
Registered: 7-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 7:08 pm: | |
Harrell, have an open spot if you're interested. Taking out the new Seadeucer, 24 ft Trophy
Give me a call 5441-5759 |
HARRELL kIMBALL (Catmakai)
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Post Number: 493
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 6:35 pm: | |
Mark;
Chuck (Onieda B) said he was going sunday. Give him a call on 68 when you get out there. |
mark godfrey (The_mistrsess)
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Post Number: 19
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 5:48 pm: | |
Going out of PSL to take a look for tuna around 34.50/121.30 Sunday a.m. Anyone else going looking?
Maark/Mistress |
Dave (Antikbuff)
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Post Number: 66
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 2:39 pm: | |
Stacey,
Home Depot or Ace is where I've found them before. And I think Miners.
The few that I had I just rigged up last week for Thrashers.
Dave |
Stacey Meacham (Stacey)
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Post Number: 140
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 2:36 pm: | |
California Department of Fish and Game
NEWS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 06:085 Aug. 3, 2006
Contact: Bill Romanelli, DFG Office of Communications, (916) 554-3440; 916-212-1446 (c)
CLARIFCATION: UPCOMING MLPA MEETINGS
The Department of Fish and Game (DFG) recently issued a press release announcing two scoping meetings on Aug. 10 and 11. The meetings are to help guide the environmental review of proposed marine protected areas (MPAs) along the central coast.
It's important for the public to understand the purpose of these meetings is to provide the Department ONLY with input on what should be studied during the environmental review. This is the first step in conducting a California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) review of the proposed project. The complete meeting notice can be viewed at: http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mrd/MLPA/pdfs/preferred0.pdf
Separate from these meetings, the California Fish and Game Commission will be holding a public meeting on Aug. 15 in Monterey to take public comment on the entire proposed network of MPAs along the central coast.
Due to the close proximity of these meetings, it will be important for the public to have a clear understanding of where their comments will be most relevant.
Therefore, to clarify:
* Aug. 10 in Morro Bay: CEQA scoping meeting, hosted by DFG. 2 to 4 p.m., Morro Bay Veterans Memorial Building, 209 Surf St., Morro Bay.
* Aug. 11 in Monterey: CEQA scoping meeting, hosted by DFG. 6:30 to 8:30 p.m., Monterey Beach Resort, 2600 Sand Dunes Dr., Monterey.
* Aug. 15 in Monterey: Special MLPA meeting hosted by the California Fish and Game Commission. Agenda TBD, Monterey Beach Resort, 2600 Sand Dunes Dr., Monterey.
The Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA) directs the state to design and manage a network of MPAs through a comprehensive program and management plan. Its primary goals are to protect marine life and habitats, marine ecosystems and marine natural heritage, as well as improve recreational educational and study opportunities provided by marine ecosystems. Marine protected areas include state marine reserves, state marine parks and state marine conservation areas. For more information on MLPA visit DFG's Web site at www.dfg.ca.gov/mrd/mlpa/.
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California Department of Fish and Game
NEWS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 06:083 Aug. 3, 2006
Contacts: John Ugoretz, MLPA Coordinator, (831) 649-2893
Bill Romanelli, DFG Office of Communications, (916) 554-3440;
916-212-1446 (cell)
DFG ANNOUNCES PUBLIC MEETINGS
TO REVIEW MARINE LIFE PROTECTION ACT PROPOSALS
SACRAMENTO - The California Department of Fish and Game (DFG) has
announced two public meetings to review proposed marine protected areas
(MPAs) along California's central coast. These scoping meetings, which
will begin the environmental review process, are scheduled for Thursday,
Aug. 10 from 2 p.m. to 4 p.m. at the Morro Bay Veterans Memorial
Building, 209 Surf St., Morro Bay, and Friday, Aug. 11 from 6:30 p.m. to
8:30 p.m. at the Monterey Beach Resort, 2600 Sand Dunes Dr. in Monterey.
"This is the public's chance to comment on what will be studied
during environmental review of the central coast marine protected areas
project and is an important part of fulfilling the goals of the Marine
Life Protection Act (MLPA)," said DFG Director Ryan Broddrick.
"It's important that people come out and let us know their
opinion of the MLPA proposals."
DFG is asking the public, agencies and other interested parties to help
identify the range of issues and type of information to be considered in
the development of an Environmental Impact Report (EIR) pursuant to the
requirements of the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA). CEQA
requires that decision-making agencies and the public be informed of any
potentially significant environmental and other effects before a
proposed project is approved.
DFG has already taken steps to identify and evaluate any potential
negative effects associated with its preferred alternative proposal.
However, comments received at the meetings or in writing prior to Aug.
15 will assist DFG in identifying the range of potential actions,
alternatives, mitigation measures and significant effects that should be
further analyzed.
Comments may be submitted on DFG's preferred alternative for a
proposed MPA network as well as other alternatives suggested by a
special Blue Ribbon Task Force earlier this year, all of which will be
examined in the EIR. The proposed MPA packages cover state waters from
Pigeon Point in the north to Point Conception in the south.
A copy of the scoping meeting notice may be obtained at
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mrd/MLPA/pdfs/preferred0.pdf
The Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA) directs the state to design and
manage a network of MPAs through a comprehensive program and management
plan. Its primary goals are to protect marine life and habitats, marine
ecosystems and marine natural heritage, as well as improve recreational
educational and study opportunities provided by marine ecosystems.
Marine protected areas include state marine reserves, state marine parks
and state marine conservation areas. For more information on MLPA visit
DFG's Web site at
www.dfg.ca.gov/mrd/mlpa/.
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Stacey Meacham (Stacey)
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Post Number: 139
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 2:33 pm: | |
I'm trying to rig up some wire leaders for toothy cridders and can't find the little metal thingies that are used to crimp the wire. Is there a local source. Also got the below notices of local meetings dealing with mpas. |
Cloud (Cloud)
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Post Number: 79
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 2:18 pm: | |
Will Crew: Big thanks to YOU also--sheesh take a little credit. I hope you got the info I sent you re: EIR stage. From what I understand the socio-economic impacts *must* be thoroughly covered in it. BUT--its important for anyone might be impacted to attend the meetings (or submit comments) where they determine who/what/where to include in the EIR? They seem to be moving at a lightning pace on this. Unusual to say the least.
Darby you also need that info if not already had. You can email me if needed. Hope you had a good trip.
How about some fishing reports? I'm going to Pt. Buchon Sunday for at least one last trip before we lose it. Any try rockfishing today Saturday? Cloud out |
HARRELL kIMBALL (Catmakai)
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Post Number: 492
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 1:27 pm: | |
ALBACORE!
Bayside Marine is reporting a pretty good albacore bite at the Guide which is about 60 nm out of Santa Cruz. |
Jim Lewis (Jimmer)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 9:57 am: | |
Transmission?
Bloody decks forever!! |
Jim Lewis (Jimmer)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 9:54 am: | |
What is a trane?
Bloody decks forever!! |
Will Crew (Jayelder)
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Post Number: 17
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 8:24 am: | |
Mel de La Motte and Harold Davis: Thank you for your time and contributions to the MLPA battle. I appreciate the room rental (Davis Boats paid for) and Mel's advice and counsel to us for our testimoney. You both (along with a lot of others) hung in there for a very long day and I beleive we made a difference, however slight it might have been. I think if we keep the pressure on we will gain a few sq. miles back on the 15th. A big thanks to Mel and Harold!!! |
Keith Warmboe (Kwcatch22)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 7:37 am: | |
Went out of M.B. friday for Halibut. Virges has no Live Bait the bait boat lost it's trane.
We managed some bait with a throw net in the harbor.
We worked the area around the Ab farm most of the
day for one keeper. We did wind up with limits of
rockfish to end the day. |
Eric Endersby (Eric_endersby)
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Post Number: 4
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 04, 2006 - 10:59 pm: | |
According to NOAA's 2005 Status of Marine Stocks (I think that's the right name) report, of the 158 managed fish stocks (that's pretty much everything commercials and recreationals catch, folks) on the west coast, NONE were considered overfished as of 2005. NONE! That means that any time that an enviro says "overfishing" about the west coast, they are lying. We hear it often. It ain't happening folks. As we all know, things out there are very healthy, and now this report officially backs us up. But did you see that in the Trib? Of course not!
In case you don't know, NOAA is the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the federal government body that houses the National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS), which in turn house the fishery management councils. Ours is the Pacific Fishery Management Council (PFMC), and the PFMC dictates all fishery management on the west coast, including Cal Fish and Game.
Gang, we need a ton of emails and phone calls and letters to the F&G Commission between now and the 15th. They should also be cc'd to John Ugoretz, the MLPA Coordinator. Talk about reduced access, safety, showing a problem before things are closed down, etc. Just get those comments out there!
Eric Endersby |
Chuck Northum (Tuna_tracker)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 04, 2006 - 9:33 pm: | |
Onieda B will be heading out Sunday morning, to assist in the search for Tuna. We will be on channel 68
See ya out there
Chuck |
Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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Post Number: 256
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 04, 2006 - 4:50 pm: | |
DES
Need a derby;;;;;;;;
Blackie/Sr |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Fishinaddict)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 04, 2006 - 4:37 pm: | |
Mike: You asked about what CRFS is doing in this whole picture. I have to say that they are doing a good job. If you knew the horrible work that was done earlier by the federal data gathering service (MRFSS)... you would appreciate the work being done by the statewide agency (CRFS). However, there is a real problem using CRFS numbers to show the status of nearshore fisheries. Right now they are using these statistics to show catch rates, but are not using them to show the health and abundance of the fisheries. We are trying to encourage CDFG to use these numbers to get us out of the "data poor" status we now suffer under. Fish and Game constantly uses the excuse that they don't have the money to work on these issues. (Yet they have the money to work on reducing our fishing opportunity). It is all very frustrating.
Mel |
Dave (Antikbuff)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 04, 2006 - 2:48 pm: | |
Dustin,
If you want to fish Luffingwell (Beach Launch a 12' boat) and do the surroundding kelp beds you can give me a call and we'll hook up on a decent day. Dave 588-1394 |
Dustin DesJardins (Farmerd)
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Hey Tim,
Have the beach house in Cayucos again for a week or so in the middle of Aug. Depending on weather and terrafin, you and the boys should drag up for an exploratory and a "Situation" Yell at me in the next week or so if anyone is interested. Will be out fishing perch in the backyard and spilling red juice if nothing else.
Dustin |
Tsunami (Carl_moore)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 04, 2006 - 12:58 pm: | |
Anyone running Saturday? I'm thinking of running on Sunday but it would be nice to hear from the folks running on Saturday before I hop in the truck to drive down.
Carl
Rehab is for quitters |
Mike (Ophiodon)
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Hey Mel,
What is the story with CRFS? Is DFG's study showing the same thing as the MIG study? You'd think with 2 studies showing the same thing (hopefully) someone would actually use common sense and notscrew the fishermen...oh wait it's state government |
Tim Mohawk (Tailchaser)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 04, 2006 - 10:51 am: | |
Sarah,
If I could catch 20 albies this year down here I would Fed-Ex them to you for FREE!
Been real slow to say the least. |
Sarah Glaser (Albiebelly)
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I'm a grad student studying albacore and part of my dissertation is a diet study. Some of you have helped me in the past. I'm collecting albacore stomachs to see what they're eating - all the way from Baja to Gulf of AK. So Cal was great this year, and I'm currently in OR. But those fish in Central/Northern CA were hard for me to get. Winds, etc. You know - you were out there fishing.
So, now I'm ready to just pay people to save albacore stomachs. You get me 20 stomachs, I'll give you $100. I only have so much money and can use so many stomachs, so if you're interested, please email me and I'll take the first 8 replies. I know 20 stomachs might be more than you catch - we'll work it out. sglaser@ucsd.edu
Details: I need the whole stomach - the throat-part included. The easiest way to get it is after you've filleted, take a knife thru the gills and slice at the guts, then pull the stomach through the side. Usually all the guts come. You can put the whole digestive tract in a ziploc bag, or cut out the stomach and liver (I do analysis on the liver too to see what trophic level they eat at - not to measure mercury). One stomach per ziploc so the contents don't mix.
Besides the stomach, I'll need to know the lat-lon and date it was caught. If you have a means of measuring the length of the fish (e.g., if the CDFG is out with their measuring boards) that would be very awesome too. Freeze the stomachs as soon as possible. I'll work out picking up the stomachs from you as soon as possible.
Sincere thanks to anyone who can help. It's hard being one person fishing - most of them are up in OR, so that's where I am. But I'd really like good spatial coverage - they eat different things in central CA than Baja or OR.
Sarah Glaser
Scripps Institution of Oceanography, San Diego |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Fishinaddict)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 04, 2006 - 9:06 am: | |
Friends: Let me add a little "commentary" to the MLPA issue. Some of you might be wondering how it is that we have such fabulous fishing off our coast ... and yet governmental authorities keep hammering us ... and further restricting our fishing opportunity.
VERY LARGE environmental groups that are very well funded such as Pew Charitable Trust, Packard Foundation, Ocean Conservancy and others have HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO SPEND EVERY YEAR. These organizations have anti-fishing leanings and are strongly opposed to commercial fishing. They have fed a BIG LIE to the public and media about all of our coastal fisheries being in a steady decline.
Commissioner Bob Hattoy who has bought into this BIG LIE gave a long, monotonous lecture to those gathered in Sacramento on August 2nd about how our coastal ocean fisheries have been in steady decline for 25 years. He said we are in a big crisis and that these marine reserves will stop this decline and protect fisheries and habitat.
The media, including the local Tribune eat up this stuff and perpetuate the BIG LIE about our oceans in deline. As usual, any big lie has a sliver of truth to it, but is still a big lie. It is true that the deep water fisheries off California have seen some declines in certain deep water species caused by over-fishing by commercial trawlers. However, that problem with deep water species (a federal waters problem ... beyond state waters) .... does not apply to nearshore species. That problem has absolutely nothing to do with these nearshore-water MPAs. The state of California has been mandated to monitor and regulate 19 nearshore species under the Marine Life Management Act (MLMA). NONE ... I REPEAT NONE of these nearshore species are overfished. The state has failed to comply with the mandate of the MLMA and has not gathered the data necessary to give a complete assessment of the nearshore species. So, in an abundance of caution (Since the State has conveniently failed to gather the science and data), they are proposing these no-fish zones (Marine Reserves) to protect the nearshore species and habitat.
The anti-fishing groups perpetuate this BIG LIE THEORY by using deep-water species problems to convince the public, media, and Commissioners that these same problems exist in nearshore species. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF THIS. Anecdotal evidence from everyone that fishes the central coast suggests that fishing is better now than it has been in the last 25 years.
There is a local study (Sometimes called the MIG study) conducted by Dr. John Stephens and Cal Poly that will be published in the fall that verifies that fishing in our area is just as good now as it was 20 years ago. However, we cannot quote that study until it is officially published. All we can do right now is use our anecdotal personal experiences to try to convince this Commission that fishing is fabulous.
It would help if more of you appeared in Monterey to continue to hammer home the point that fishing is so fabulous in our area that we do not need more and bigger no-fish zones ... as is being proposed by the F&G staff.
Like Eric said, it appears bleak, but I still feel the marbles are still on the table. A strong showing in Monterey on August 15 by fishermen might sway the day with some swing-vote Commissioners.
I will keep you posted.
Mel de la Motte |
Cloud (Cloud)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 04, 2006 - 8:06 am: | |
Eric I'm good, thanks. Not many on road at 4:30 except crazy fishermen. Planning to be at the next meeting too if work permits.
I am deeply concerned Package P ignores Safety of Life AT SEA (SOLAS) issues, as pointed out by Tom Hafer/Piedras input and myself re Pt. Buchon. Package 1 was crafted with input from folks to whom SOLAS is second nature. If they continue to ignore it, fishing families are going to be put at significatly increased risk. Especially those that come here from out of the area.
Cloud out |
Eric Endersby (Eric_endersby)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 8:34 pm: | |
Great summary Mel. Bottom line guys is that we got pretty hosed, but may get some small boundary changes. Mel is correct in that no decisions were made, only DFG staff directed to come up with and analyize aforementioned changes. We'll see how that goes, but I'm not holding my breath. My money is that the snake in the grass, aka John Ugoretz, will come up with bs reasons to not make the changes that the Commission wanted to look at. He'll do whatever possible to say why the changes can't be done. After what I saw him say and do yesterday I am convinced that he's got marching orders from above, in addition to having his own pro-reserve agenda. Our only hope is some reason from the Commission.
Which brings me to August 15. That is the next Commission meeting where they will likely adopt a package of mpa's. Again we'll need as much participation and testimony as possible. You all did great yesterday, each and every one of you that spoke for us fishermen. I am proud and you did make an impact. Unfortunately, we'll need to muster and make another impact at the next meeting.
Luckily this meeting is in Monterey, which is a pretty easy drive up and back day. We'll keep you posted.
Ray Cloud, hope you made it home OK this morning after the marathon drive!
Eric Endersby |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Fishinaddict)
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 6:01 pm: | |
Friends:
Okay, I will give you a summary of the MLPA hearings from yesterday.
First of all, I want to thank all the loyal fishermen and supporters from our area that traveled to Sacramento to fight the battle to protect our fishing rights. I cannot remember everyone who was there, but these people come to mind: Joe Cardoza, Charlie Cabassi, Tom & Sheri Hafer, Ray Cloud, Tom Dietrick, Roger Cullen, Tom Capen, Trudy O'Brien, Rick Algert, Janice Peters, Eric Endersby, Darby Neil, Jay Elder, Jim Wood, Harold Davis, Jerry Coffee and his wife, Stan House ... and a number of others that slip my mind at this moment. Thanks to all of you. Apologies to those that I forgot to mention or whose names I might have misspelled.
The Fish & Game Commission devoted the entire day to presentations and public comment about proposed Marine Protected Areas (MPAs) for the Central Coast. The Central Coast is from Pigeon Point (south of Half Moon Bay) to Pt. Conception (south of Vandenberg). The Central Coast was divided into seven (7) subregions. The areas of concern to our area are from Pt. Sur to Pt. Conception which are numbered regions 4, 5, 6 & 7. To quickly summarize what happened in the treatment of the first three regions up north, I would say that the Commission is leaning toward accepting the F&G staff recommendation in all those regions (the CDFG staff recommendation is called Package "P"). The Commission said at the outset that package "P" would be the preferred package unless the public convinced them otherwise. I must say that even package P is very extreme in its closure of waters to recreational and commercial fishing. All of the fishing communities opposed package P. Of course the anti-fishing groups were trying to get the Commission to be even more restrictive in their effort to close down the coast to fishing. It was not until after 6 p.m. yesterday that they started considering the southerly part of the Central Coast, which were subregions 4,5,6 & 7. It looked very, very bleak as the Commission started considering our "back yard". Here is my summary:
1. Subregion 4: POINT SUR TO SAN MARTIN
Most of you know where Pt. Sur is located, but I might add that San Martin is about 15 miles north of the Piedras Blancas Lighthouse. Most of us do not fish this far north, but Virg's makes trips up there and some commercial fishermen fish this area. This area was very contentious. The enviros argued long and hard that this entire area should be off limits to fishing completely. Even though there is very minimal impact on this area caused by fishing, the Commission seemed inclined toward following Package P which would have a big marine reserve (No-fish zone) taking up a big part of the Pt. Sur area. This would be very harmful to commercial fishermen and Virg's long-range trips. I might add that only 3 of the Commissioners were present during this "debate" and our two best supporters (Mike Flores and Jim Kellogg) were not present. Therefore, I think there is some question about the ultimate outcome for this area.
2. Subregion 5: SAN MARTIN TO POINT ESTERO
Package P proposed two large reserves (no-fish zones) in this area. Package P suggests a no-fish zone starting about 5 miles above Piedras Blancas Pt. to about 1 mile below Piedras Blancas. Many of us argued strongly that too much prime fishing area was being taken by this proposal. Commissioner Rogers suggested that he wanted the CDFG staff to consider reducing the size of the marine reserve to allow fishing on the leeward (south) side of Piedras Blancas. We would certainly invite such an improvement.
Also under Subregion 5 was a proposed no-fish zone from the south end of Cambria to a latitude line about 4-5 miles south of Cambria. Many of us argued that this area or some other area around Cambria could be a marine park (which allows recreational fishing), but that we did not was a reserve (no-fish zone). We seemed to have a lot of support for this idea. Again Richard Rogers seemed to lead a movement to alter Package P to allow recreational fishing around the Cambria area. Mike Flores had returned for discussions about this area ... and seemed inclined also to allow recreational fishing in this area.
3. Subregion 6: POINT ESTERO TO SANTA MARIA RIVER
The one big contentious point here was the major taking of fishing grounds around Pt. Buchon. All of you know how heavily this area is fished. Package P would take an area north of Pt. Buchon to a point down south of Diablo Canyon near Pachel Rock. Again there were many of us arguing that they were taking our best and safest fishing area near Diablo Canyon. Again, it seemed like the Commissioners were inclined to favor shrinking or reducing the no-fish zone in this area.
4. Subregion 7: SANTA MARIA RIVER TO PT CONCEPTION
By this time of night (9:30 p.m.) tempers were getting short and everyone was thoroughly exhausted. Tom Capen relies heavily on this fishiing way down by Purisma and Proposal P was going to destroy these fishing grounds with a no-fish reserve. The Commissioners did not give Tom a fair hearing on the issue and many of us jumped in to argue to reduce the size of this reserve. It is hard to tell if we were successful in convincing any Commissioners to reduce the size of this MPA.
When the day started, it seemed like the Commission was going to vote on their intentions by the end of the day. As the day progressed, it was clear that the Commissioners were suggesting so many changes that it was unlikely they would vote on anything. Then everyone got tired and frazzled. I did not stick around for the meeting today or tomorrow, but would guess that there will be no voting on ultimate MPAs until at least August 15 when the Commission meets in Monterey.
In some respects, things look gloomy ... especially for fishermen in the Monterey Bay area. The Commission seemed more inclined to reduce or eliminate no-fish zones in our area south of Piedras Blancas. In some ways, I think that I could say the "marbles are still on the table." I will be writing a very strongly worded letter to the Commission trying to solidify their suggestions from yesterday about reducing the size of some MPAs and converting some reserves into marine parks (which allow recreational fishing). I will keep you posted on our progress.
We met Tuesday from 3 p.m. to 7 p.m. planning strategy for this hearing at a conference room at the Holiday Inn Express. Then we were up at 7 a.m. yesterday for breakfast and meetings with scientists who were going to suggest that the science supporting these MPAs was "flawed". Then we all trouped down to the meeting hall at 9 a.m. The hearings started at 10 a.m. and went all the way until 10 p.m. last night. Many of the exhausted troups were sharing a nightcap at the Holiday Inn bar about midnight last night....
It was a long two days and a lot of hard work. Again I thank all the wonderful people who donated their time fighting for our fishing rights.
Mel de la Motte |
Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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If we spent the same amount of fuel to pull the boats to SAC it would probaly equal one LFT trip , I think it would make a statement if we just showed up there about 0700 and drove around and around till after there lunch ,,, we would PISS them off , Dont know if it would do any good if they have made up there minds already. So I guess we better get ready to BEND OVER and let the friggen enviromentalist , and assho-- of the sierra clubs of the world stick it to us.
Spotted owls eat good and I here it takes 10 snowy plover eggs to make an omlet.
See you on the water , keep fishing.
Blackie/ Sr |
clark w fowler (Clark)
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Looking for trailer brake advice. I have 10" disc from Tie Down. I believe I have a sticking caliper. Thinking about replacing it all. any suggestions where to find, what make. Im in Lompoc. THANKS IN ADVANCE |
Steve Carter (Steve_carter)
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I stayed until 4:00pm and they were hours away from discussing our region but I would say that shallow water rock fishing out of Morro Bay is going to get hammered. The general tone of the those on the commission doing the talking was to make the Fish and Game plan more restrictive not less. They paid lip service to the idea of 'wanting to hear' from those in the fishing industry but generally sided with the University/enviro crowd. The meeting was very poorly run and their decision making process a total mystery to someone like me. I don't know if it is worth going to the Monterey meeting or if their minds are already made up. They talked about urgent action to remedy the 'crisis' condition off of our coast. I wanted to tell them that we fished Piedras Blancas both Sat. and Sun. for easy limits of quality fish among the birds, seals and sea lions. We didn't seem to bother anybody or see any particular crisis situation but of course I don't have a degree in marine biology so don't know what I'm looking at.
I'll wait to hear from some of the others who were at the meeting with more knowledge on what to do next but I'm thinking the a big ole wagon train of trucks and boats circling the Capitol some business day would at least let off a little steam. |
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