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Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Fishinaddict)
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Post Number: 66
Registered: 3-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 2:57 pm: | |
Thank you for your kind comments, Ray. I am going to Alaska to clear up my head a little ... and when I return maybe I will be refreshed and we will look at some other options.
Yes, there certainly are some lawsuit possibilities. We will get our legal-beagles looking into the possibilities.
Mel |
HARRELL kIMBALL (Catmakai)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 1:33 pm: | |
this is the main page for the site if you want to see various products.
http://www7300.nrlssc.navy.mil/altimetry/regions/reg_npc.html |
Will Bateman (Willbateman)
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Post Number: 164
Registered: 7-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 12:05 pm: | |
Try:
http://www7300.nrlssc.navy.mil/altimetry/images/modas_images/today/pwc _sst.a.gif
This shows sst anomaly from normal.
Will |
Dave (Antikbuff)
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Post Number: 73
Registered: 9-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 9:23 am: | |
I couldn't get it to come up either Mark. Something you're not coping right ? |
HARRELL kIMBALL (Catmakai)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 6:24 am: | |
Mark;
I think the address is imcomplete. Couldn't get it to work. If you do a copy and paste it will look like this when you post it.
http://www.fishreports.net/fishing/messages/93/284.html |
mark godfrey (The_mistrsess)
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Post Number: 27
Registered: 7-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 8:40 pm: | |
Harrell, check out this site:
www7300.nrlssc.navy.mil/altimetry/images/modas_images/today/pwc_sst.a. gif
Mark/Mistress |
Tim (Tim)
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Post Number: 23
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 8:30 pm: | |
Steve; They have been getting high bacteria levels in that area and the beaches are still closed to swimmers. Mabey thats your answer? Tim |
Timothy Foley (Tree_doc)
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Post Number: 110
Registered: 6-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 8:14 pm: | |
Amen, Blackie.
As a sportsman involved in both fishing and hunting, Arny is on my shitlist in a BIG TIME way!
I will NOT vote before I would ever vote him back into office. Something tells me that he knows that about people like me so he pulls this kind of crap to get in bed with Enviros.
Politicians.....&^%$ 'em and feed 'em tuna fish! |
Mike Green (Caster)
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Post Number: 148
Registered: 12-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 7:34 pm: | |
Well, we knew he was an actor when we hired him!
gettin screwed by the GD govn't aint unusual to me, I live in Los Osos |
Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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ILL BE BACK IS DEAD FISH MEAT ;;;;;;;;;;;;; |
mark godfrey (The_mistrsess)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 4:01 pm: | |
Mel, can't a suit or appeal be filed to suspend/overturn this thing? Or gain time to get more and bigger supporters to back us? We all know this isn't about "protecting our oceans and fish." With this area being the least populated in the state, thus the least amount of $$$ going to politicians, it's "up for sale" to the highest bidders and they are the enviros. Now, what are the 2 most feared words an enviro can hear: oil platforms! I assume there are leases in place off our coast and if MPA's are in place, that might be enough to curtail off shore drilling. Maybe WE need to get "in bed" with the oil companies. Your thoughts?
Mark/Mistress |
Steve Hendricks (Fishmaster)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 2:59 pm: | |
Fished PSL in the mini again today. Got a 1/4 scoop of 3-4" chovies from Deke. He said some funky water and a ton of bait moved into the bay and killed all his sardines. He was heading out tomorrow to try to get some more bait. There was definitely some funky water in the bay. Near the break-water there were dead surf perch everywhere. I saw 20 or 30 of them, but there were probably more.
Anyhow, fished all the usual spots from the Pea Patch down to SL creek for not 1 halibut. Don't even think we had one on. Not sure if it was the bait or the funky water that moved through. Strange.
Be out again in Saturday. Might take the big boat out to use the free launch!
Bummer about the MPA'a and the corrupt process. Better fish Purisma all I can this year!!!
best fishes,
steve |
Cloud (Cloud)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 1:52 pm: | |
Mel,
I dont know how to say thanks enough for all the work you've put into the whole thing. All SW recreational fishermen owe you a debt of gratitude whether they know it or not.
Your posting is an awesome summary with priceless insights. What you said at the MB Fundraiser dinner--and I remember this specifically--is something like "we (CCFCC)will continue to participate in good faith as long as it appears the playing field is level".
OK so that last meeting proved the suspicions we had all along. My faith in the system has been severely damaged BUT my faith in you and the CCFCC mission is NOT. Don't let the flame go out we still have a battle ahead and frankly we need you now more than ever.
IT AINT OVER TILL ITS OVER. HANG IN THERE MEL!!!Ray |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Fishinaddict)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 11:22 am: | |
Friends: Sorry about all the grammar, spelling and typographical errors in that last posting ... I was sort of hurried, angry and careless. I think you got the point.
Mel |
Bob Hather (Windfall)
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Post Number: 208
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 10:43 am: | |
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE August 16, 2006
Media Contact:
Kristina Chavez Wyatt, Armanasco Public Relations, Inc.
(831) 372-2259/kwyatt@armanasco.com
Media Kit and Regional Contacts Available
CALIFORNIA FISH & GAME COMMISSION OPTS FOR POLITICAL SCIENCE OVER BIOLOGICAL SCIENCE
SACRAMENTO, Calif. – August 16, 2006 – The California Fisheries Coalition (CFC), a group representing 23 commercial and recreational fishing organizations, seafood processors, kelp harvesters and coastal communities was greatly disappointed yesterday during the California Fish and Game Commission (Commission) hearing in Monterey.
Late yesterday evening during the hearing on the Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA), the Commission selected a group of Marine Protected Areas (MPAs) for CEQA analysis. The Commission’s preferred alternative resulted from a combination of Fish and Game staff’s recommended alternative, “Package P,” and the MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force alternative, “Package 3R.”
Vern Goehring, CFC manager said, “The Commission is obviously rushing to provide the Governor with a claim of ocean protection, choosing to clearly put political science ahead of biological science. The CFC encouraged the Commission to move forward with a plan balanced soundly on environmental, sociological and economic benefits, not bad science and political rhetoric.”
The CFC is concerned that the Fish and Game Commission has conducted no modeling and has used questionable and inadequate science to quantify the impacts or benefits of their preferred plan. The CFC’s scientific review of the MLPA, conducted by three of the most highly respected and renowned marine scientists, concludes that larger marine reserves only provide larger “illusions of protection.” The scientists agreed that, "The MLPA science advice recommended a collection of quantitative prescriptions about size and spacing of MPAs. It appears to us that those prescriptions were pulled out of the air, based on intuitive reasoning.” The Commission has been presented with no scientific evidence or impact projections that have warranted taking away vital fishing grounds. They have received testimony from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association (NOAA) that overfishing is not taking place, fishing efforts are already down and fish stocks are up. NOAA found that new Marine Protected Areas (MPAs) are not needed to rebuild the several stocks of groundfish.
Tom Hafer, of the Morro Bay Fisherman’s Organization said, “It’s not fair trying to protect the ocean entirely on the backs of men, women, families and small businesses. We are being used as a scapegoat, a political pawn and cover up to divert attention from pollution and development.”
According to David Crabbe, a Monterey-based squid fisherman and vice president of the California Wetfish Producers Association, “There is a tremendous amount of inequality taking place. MPAs (areas allowing limited and no fishing) are the only ways being evaluated to conserve the oceans. The 1999 Marine Life Protection Act seeks to integrate environmental AND fisheries management issues. The Commission seems to have ignored that comprehensive fishing regulations are already in place. CFC fishermen have shown their willingness to comply with existing regulations and support full implementation of the MLPA. There is no such thing as a fishing ’free-for-all‘ anywhere in California warranting such extreme regulations.”
There is still hope for the fishermen as the Commission has included Package 1, “the fishermen’s package,” in the CEQA analysis. The CFC is confident that the analysis will result in Package 1 showing the least environmental, social and economic “unintended consequences” of all packages being considered. Goehring concluded, “It’s important to note that following the CEQA process, the Commission can correct this misguided action.”
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Established in 2004, the statewide CFC was formed with a single purpose - to provide a mechanism for recreational and commercial fishing groups to work together in a proactive manner on the Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA) Initiative to ensure a credible, fair and science-based outcome.
The California Fisheries Coalition (CFC) consists of 23 ocean-dependent recreational and commercial fishing associations, seafood processors, abalone growers and kelp harvesters, contributing $5.5 billion annually to California's economy. Coalition membership encompasses more than 14,000 commercial fishermen, in excess of 4,000 fishing vessels, several million recreational anglers and more than 200 seafood companies. Approximately 172,000 people are employed by CFC partner businesses.
For more information and copies of the peer review reports visit www.cafisheriescoalition.org or call (916) 444 – 8194.
____________________________________
Kristina Chavez Wyatt
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Armanasco Public Relations Inc.
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Phone: 831.372.2259
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Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Fishinaddict)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 10:41 am: | |
Ray Cloud & others: This will probably be my last post on this subject. I said in the beginning that we would give the MLPA process a chance. Mike Chrisman (head of the Resources Agency) said the process would be "transparent" and the public would be involved in the process.
He is a total liar ... and traitor to all fishermen ... and a complete lackey for the governor.
Here is a summary of what really happened. The Blue Ribbon task force apointed a group of 32 stakeholders from the general public, including fishermen, divers, surfers, kelp harvesters, various consumptive users and representatives of almost all environmental groups. In the end, after much compromise, this group by a majority vote chose MPAs that became Package 1. This majority proposal met the rigorous standards and guidelines of the Science Advisory Team ... which meant that it complied with all the scientific and educational guidelines of the MLPA legislation. Most fishermen supported Package 1 ... the majority package. Package 1 was then turned over to the Blue Ribbon Task Force. The BRTF did not choose Package 1 as their preferred proposal. They picked a very restrictive, extremist Package labeled Package 3R. However, Package 1 was sent on to Fish & Game as a viable option. When Fish & Game received Package 1 they threw it in the garbage, never to heard from again. The "fix was in" even at CDFG.
That was the end of the "public input" process.
CDFG proposed Package P which was an "extremist proposal" that essentially took away all the prime fishng grounds between Piedras Blancas and Pt. Conception. The environmental members of the 32-member stakeholders group were allowed to retreat from that proposal and came up with a rediculous proposal called 2R (which essentially destroys all fishing along the Central Coast). The Blue Ribbon Task Force submitted a "preferred alternative" which was called 3R. This extremist position was somewhere between Package P and Package 2R. In Monterey ... no one ever mentioned package 1 as in option. It was obviously in the garbage bin long before we were allowed to voice our opinions.
Here is the political reality:
In Sacramento (August 2nd), Commissioner Richard Rogers made a number of very favorable suggestions about line-drawing in the southern sub-regions (between Piedras Blancas and Pt. Conception) and it looked like we might get back a substantial part of the prime fishing grounds that Package P was going to take away. We actually had some "hope" that Rogers would help out fishing interests. However, when we arrived at Monterey on August 15 it was perfectly clear immediately that someone had "gotten to" Rogers and he was now turned to the dark side. I have never seen such an obvious 180 degree change in my life. He was recently appointed to the Commission by Gov. Schwartzenegger ... and now it was pay-back time. The Governor called in his "chips" and Rogers jumped into line and stabbed us all in the back.
The Governor wants to be able to hold up the MLPA maps and show the world that he is a strong environmentalist. He used his pressure to get Rogers back in line. He already had Hattoy and Gustafson in his hip pocket ... and with Rogers ... it was all over.
So, the process that Mike Chrisman said was "transparent" ... turned out be be dirty "stinking" politics in the end ... and all of us wasted our time trying to affect the process.
I personally am done with this process. I said in the beginning that I thought the "fix was in" and now I am sure I was correct. I will waste no more time on a corrupt process. It is clear that only "behing the scenes" pressure and bribery are the only things that work ... or lawsuits. I have no "behind the scenes" clout, so I guess there is only one tool left for fishermen.
Yes, we will be talking to Coastside Fishing Club about other options. Participating in the corrupt process is not one of the options.
Mel |
Cloud (Cloud)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 8:36 am: | |
Wes we had a sundowner on the back side of Rosa and it woulda been hairy but we were "inside" where the wind hit the water (where it turned solid white). Our one Bruce anchor held but it was an adventure. If you can anchor in lee of cliffs will help maybe?
It was over in less than 45 mins. Caught a 20+ lb WSB and a 60+ BSB just prior. BSB released of course. Hali's in AM. Wild.
Anyone interested Coastside is coming up with a bigger plan. Suggest CCFCC members also need to team with them. Am sure Mel will be working this angle.
There is just something inherently wrong with what's going on with the MLPA, F&G Commission, Governor, etc. The smell *reeks* of corruption and backroom deals. Public participation has been a farce. Been there, seen it in person. Its now way beyond the MLPA and has to do with the way our govt is functioning. From what I've seen, all citizens should be very, very concerned. If even our current gov can be bought out by special interests we have much bigger problems than the MLPA. Cloud out |
Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 8:18 am: | |
Maybe if we all just did not buy fishing licences next year , the dept of fun an games will CRASH , And im with you dave put me in jail for fishing HUH,
They will force us to break there laws , like I said before they can not enforce what they have now , so they sure will not be able to take on more area.
I am still wondering HOW they are going to ROPE off all these new areas , so the joe blow fisherman knows where he is , Will everyone be ISSUED a GPS ?
It aint over till the FAT LADY SINGS.
Blackie/Sr |
John Moore (Jmoore)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 10:47 pm: | |
Wes, Sounds like your going to Arroyo Quemada sp?
Just up from there is a seawall with a couple of culverts that run down the slope. There is a good reef in front of them in about 40 ft of water. Occasionaly there are even legal lings on this reef. Good reefs just down (east) of Tajigus also.Lots of good hali fishing from just above Gaviota down to Refugio over sand bottom. Have fun and good luck. |
Wes (Slotroller)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 10:33 pm: | |
Thanks John & Dave
My boat won't meet the criteria to launch off the piers. I'll have to go to Santa Barbara and zip up the coast to the site. It is just uphill from Tajiguas. I plan to anchor the boat just offshore and use a kayak to get friends to and from the boat. I'm concerned about sundowners through the canyons but the weather reports look pretty good. I'll probably double anchor just to be safe. The charts indicate a lot of kelp, dive and fishing opportunities.
Wish me luck! |
Mike (Ophiodon)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 7:27 pm: | |
did the Commissioners have the authority to strip mine the MPA plans to come up with this crap? I thought they had to go with a plan already developed
Doesn't DFG have a say in all this? What about their preferred colonblow? at least we had some fishing with that one...
Seems like they took the bad from all the plans and made this one. Boston Tea Party, good idea, except that one was too small, we need to think bigger. San Francisco Bay Party!
IF anybody's is in good with the man upstaitrs, now's the time to ask. Maybe the CFC lawsuit will nail them. I'm with Cloud on this, we have but a little hope, but it's still hope. |
bob may (Bodean)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 7:15 pm: | |
The Boston tea party:
Way backthere was an issue about taxes and rulership that was deemed by our forfathers to be unjust and unfair greedy and corrupt and there was war was the result.
We won our independance. |
Dave (Antikbuff)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 7:14 pm: | |
Thanks for the correction JM. It's been a while since I've been down there.
Lundy's Landing in Lompoc (1501 East Chestnut Ct) (Owner,Bill-736-3044/ Closed Sun. & Mon.) does a great job in getting the correct measurments and ordering a proper sling. |
John Moore (Jmoore)
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Slotroller/Wes, The fee at Goleta has been raised to $15 but parking is free. Ranger Dave is a County Park employee and is very helpful and a nice guy. Some of the guys that launch from Goleta tip Dave in addition to the launch fee. The hoist at Gaviota is kinda hit and miss. The hoist has had some mechanical issues and they are in the process of obtaining a scale to weigh the boats before launching. Untill the scale is installed they will only launch boats under 18' I think. At Gaviota the sling must also have a weight rating tag sewn onto the straps and all straps must come to a single lift ring to be used. Before launching from Gaviota it would be a good idea to go there and talk to George (one of the state lifeguards) as he is aware of all of the restrictions. Hope this helps. BTW we fished from goleta last week for halibut but no luck. Friends caught 5 the day before but they also blanked the day we tried. Thats fishing. |
Tav Arua (Tav)
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Sad to hear that the F&G is really all about playing games rather than about working to strike a balance between fishermen and the enrivos to manage the resource in a reasonable manner. F&G folks are worthless and are about as useful as slime eels at this point. |
Josh Conrad (Conman)
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George go to usafishing.com and scroll down on the left you will see fort bragg and bodega bay fish reports good luck! |
Cloud (Cloud)
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George, you might find some Bedega/Bragg info at Coastside Fishing Club website in SW fishing reports section. Google up Coastide and should take you right there. |
George Milanés (Cubano)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 12:59 pm: | |
Running up north Sonoma/Mendocino area for a friends memorial services...and figured, catch a few fish too. So, before I tow the boat up that way does anyone have recent information on what the bite is like in Bodega Bay or Fort Bragg areas?
Thanks in advance the information greatly appreciated.
Tight lines- |
Cloud (Cloud)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 10:20 am: | |
No, it is NOT over, that's for sure. There is still the CSFC lawsuit; which I for one will be supporting with everything I possibly can.
I have also heard *lots* of talk that there was a *lot* of proprietery information handed over by fishermen in "good faith" and spirit of cooperation. It is blatantly obvious the BAD FAITH in which it was used.
There is a lot more fodder for the lawsuit than meets the eye (or ears).
Those folks are f(**^king with our freedoms. I for one will not go quietly into defeat.
Sheryl--try lifting straight up on the net handle once the hali is all the way inside i.e. lift vertical not horizontal. Years ago I too lost one that flew straight up out of the (horizontal) net, wouldnt have believed it if had not seen with my own eyeballs. Cloud out. |
Wes (Slotroller)
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Thanks for the launch info! |
Dave (Antikbuff)
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And I also appreciate Mel, Darby, Cloud, Eric,John, Michele and everyone else that went to battle over our rights. And don't think it's over. There's a price to pay for all decisions made...good & bad alike. |
Dave (Antikbuff)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 7:55 am: | |
I may just need that luck John... B-cuz I'm going to continue to fish wherever & whenever I want.
The court system and jails are sooo overcrowded already with the criminal element that they're already kickin' out the petty crimnals.
Personally, I say "Screw the %#@tards". I'm fishin' wherever & whenever I want. God didn't put these fish on earth so I'd have to go to Red Lobster or the Jetty and pay for what I eat.
Besides, Isn't there somwhere in our laws that God & goverment are apart from each other ? |
John Usilton (Teachers_pet)
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Dave, Someday everybody will know how bad we fisherpeople got our butts kicked. They will also know how much we appreciate Mel. There is really nothing left to say. Good luck John |
HARRELL kIMBALL (Catmakai)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 7:12 am: | |
Here is another report from the meeting yesterday:
Well, the first 3/4 of the day pretty much went as expected.
Department made a presentation of a few potential changes to Package P as directed by the Commission. At the August 2nd meeting the commission had pretty much settled on package P but were willing to consider some ammendments to soften it to the south so.
Background on Package P. This is the department's attempt to lessen impacts of the BRTF's package 3R and make it more enforceable etc. By and large package P was barely tolerable here in the north and got progressively worse in impacts the farther south you went. The severe impact to the south (esp Morro Bay/PSL) was why the commission asked the department to analyze some scaling back.
After the presentation, we did public comment for 5 or so hours. I won't bore you w/ my comments because they end up being irrelevant.
Ok so that's all the expected part. At this point based on the commission's preliminary decision at the previous meeting to go with package P with maybe some softening, we expected a rather orderly discussion of package P and that our comments would be largly ignored.
Well our comments were ignored so we were half right.
Things started out surreal and quickly transcended to worst case nightmare. Three of the commission members (Hattoy, Gustafson, and Rogers) suddenly got amnesia about the decisions made at the previous meeting and started drawing their own maps. When they were not drawing lines they were just liberally substituting MPA designations from package 3R into the mix. The net result was that the package the commission appears to have adopted was significantly worse even than the preferred alternative originally selected by the Blue Ribbon Task Force. This includes a much worse outcome for Año Nuevo than any of the previously proposed packages. It also means that the relatively reasonable solution proposed by the Department for the Monterey Penninsula was tossed in favor of mostly 3R, and that no releif will be given to the Morro Bay folks.
It was clear to all present that somebody (take an obvious guess) got to these three commissioners who were basically creating the package without any qualifications to do so. And of course, this was all after public comment so nobody was even allowed to comment on the new package they created.
Commissioners Flores and Kellog were essentially powerless to do anything to prevent this. Flores was clearly upset by the direction this went. And it was clear that this was drivein by some backroom deal setup between these three commissioners and the Governor.
In my worst nightmare, I could not have envisioned something so sinister to occurr. I'm normally pretty pessimistic, so I'm normally not surprised when bad stuff happens. However, the blatantly corrupt behavoir of part of the commission leaves me really dumbfounded. There's just no other way to say it.
The last 3 hours of this meeting much be watched on video to be understood. Please do so.
The net result is we are facing something that is actually worse than 3R .. or 2R for that matter in the north.
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Howard Egan
Sanc. Advisory Council |
Shawn Fabian (Bluescaster)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 6:35 am: | |
This is a late report from our trip Sunday...got two 15 pounders - one on bait, one on the troll. Had another that came unbuttoned. We were ~10 miles east of the donut. |
Dave (Antikbuff)
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Some people need it explained in detail, John. I'm surprized you wouldn't know that. Dave |
John Usilton (Teachers_pet)
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Thanks coach, John.. |
Dave (Antikbuff)
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Slotroller: Wes,
Yes, there is a launch in Goleta. It's at the pier and open on weekends (Sat & Sun.) only. 6am to 4pm. Cost: 9.00 up to 2 tons (4,000 Lbs) The hoist is operated by a state employee named 'DAVE' (Cell Ph# 403-8766) You pull into the parking lot, unhook your trailer & park your vehicle. Dave takes your boat & trailer out with a tractor and then parks your trailer. You're done ! Go Fishing, diving, Surfing, whatever. But remember, you have to be back by 4pm. Otherwise you may spend the night on the water or have to head down to SB harbor, go get your vehicle and pull your boat out.
Dave F (Not the hoist operator) |
Chris Foster (Fishmaster110)
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Wednesday August 16, 2006
By MARCUS WOHLSEN
Associated Press Writer
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) A network of reserves to protect California's rich array of marine wildlife moved closer to becoming a reality on Tuesday after a state panel selected a plan to put large swaths of coastal waters off-limits to fishing.
The Fish and Game Commission voted at a packed meeting in Monterey to ban both commercial and recreational fishing across roughly 94 square miles and limit it in 110 additional square miles between Santa Barbara and Half Moon Bay, just south of San Francisco.
The plan still must undergo a final environmental review before it goes into effect. The new protected areas likely would not become official until at least early 2007, said Bill Romanelli, a spokesman for the state Department of Fish and Game.
Commission president Michael Flores said the network was the first of its kind for California.
``The commission's preferred proposal will serve as a model for future conservation efforts and as a legacy in protecting our coastline,'' Flores said in a statement after the vote.
California has created various marine reserves over the years, but their boundaries and restrictions often have conflicted. The latest effort seeks to develop a systematic, statewide approach to protecting coastal habitat.
Florida and Hawaii have established similar marine protected areas.
Marine reserves, mandated by the Marine Life Protection Act of 1999, aim to restore populations of fish, crustaceans, squid and other marine life depleted by overfishing, pollution and other human activities. They are designed to safeguard key ecosystems such as kelp forests and rocky reefs rather than the more traditional approach of singling out specific species for protection.
Environmentalists said the California commission should have gone further, calling marine protected areas as important as national parks on land.
``The network is not as strong as we wanted, but we're hoping we can all work together now to protect the underwater gems of the Central Coast,'' said Karen Garrison, who co-directs the oceans program in San Francisco for the Natural Resources Defense Council.
Fishermen, meanwhile, worried that any limits on fishing could hurt their livelihoods.
The panel considered four plans that differed mainly over how broad an area in which to ban fishing.
A plan proposed by fishermen themselves would have barred them from 5 percent of Central Coast waters. Environmentalists supported placing 13 percent under protection.
The final plan chosen by the commission would put 8 percent off limits.
Scientists believe habitats protected from fishing give fish and other wildlife a chance to grow larger and replenish their numbers.
Protected areas under the plan would include underwater canyons and coral beds near coastal landmarks like Point Lobos, Point Sur and Ano Nuevo.
(Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.) |
Jack Gordano (Sixpak)
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Josh, I caught my fish 80 miles west of Monterey. You have to want them bad. It took me over 5 hours to get to the blue water.Fished for 3 1/2 and 4 hours home. I can only go so fast in my little boat but I only burned a little over 30 gallons of fuel. Sixpak |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Fishinaddict)
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