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Jeen Raj (Jeen)
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 6:32 am:   

Hi Abu Catcher,

Once you are out of The Buteen,head for the Shiping channel that leads into Abu Dhabi M eena. You might find some fish in the general area around the red Bouy marked 10 or 11. It is pretty warm out there . Take a lot of fluids and keep yourself well hydrated.


Jeen
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Jeen Raj (Jeen)
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 6:24 am:   

Hi Ijilal,

The fish were caught in the middle of May this year.


Tight Lines

Jeen
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Syed Ijlal Hussain (Ijlal)
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 3:58 am:   

Hey Chris,

Take it easy pal. If you believe you are right on something than take a stance and fight it out, like a man. Running away won't help you or anybody else. I have seen a lot of people do the same over petty matters, but in the end who were the losers? I bet people like Angler13 do privately peek into the forum now and then to see what's going on, but cannot overcome their over bloated egos to write again. I even suspect some may have rejoined by other names!

I don't even know you, so your leaving wont really make any difference to me, but I think this forum needs a few who can speak out their minds, and then again, think of it man... this forum is not owned by you or I or anybody else who writes here; nay, it is not even moderated by one of us, so why do you want to be a sissy? Come on man, let's get a healthy debate going!

I have said enough... the choice is yours.

Thanks,

Ijlal
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Keyur L A (Keyur)
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 3:09 am:   

Hi guys,

this is getting rather interesting here.....I might add......seems like a hot spicy Indian curry :o)

Btw, Thanks to some anglers we get some good advice to follow up on. It is rather unfortunate when people fail to understand what is being said & take this to be a personal battle. This site has seen quite a few of those messages & I do hope it stops (I know it never will).

Just a suggestion.....if anyone can give better advice than what has been given please feel free to do so. Else please dont run down someone who is being helpful & giving advice.

A lot of people are already discouraged from posting anything here & that includes myself.
the new comers here & everyone will lose out if people keep on letting their pride & ego interfere.
the choice is yours !!!
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Jeen Raj (Jeen)
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 2:27 am:   

Hey Chris,

Sorry man. My apologies. you are right. the first fish( the lighter coloured Grouper) was caught on daiwa sealine reel loaded with 12 lb line and the rod was a 6.6 feet shimano rated for 20lb. Well the second darker fish and the last picture of the bigger fish was caught with the tackle I described to you earlier. You may be able to see the rod and reel resting inside the cornish hand rail / fenncing. However I was generally making a comment on big fish on lighter tackle and my replies to you were made in good spirit and in a very adult man to man banter that anglers like you and me should generally be comfortable with.Also A forum like this, does not I hope,generally require too much of formal introductions. All members are deemed to be old friends, no matter how long they have been on the forum.
I apologise once again if I have offended you in any way . And PLEASE DONT DROP OUT OF THE FORUM. My best friend has always been my worst critic.



Regards,

Jeen
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 2:23 am:   

hey everybody
dear chris
seems u are quite the hothead just like the popular rapala colour.just take it easy man like in the eagles song.all jeen was tryin to do was enlighten the local fishing community that sportfishing is an artform n not the mindless killing of sportfish. catching 5 pound fish on 50 lb tackle is as bad as netting or dynamiting.also such excellent catches by such young anglers are to be encouraged instead of being derided immaturely.as an answer to your previous question i have caught quite a few groupers on light tackle.To me trolling in the uae requires tackle of maximum 20-30 lb unless you are fishing more than 15 miles out. and u seem to be all of 15 yards.let us hope ur further posts if any are of a less vicious nature.

happy fishing to everyone else
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 1:48 am:   

PEACE BE UPON ALL

hi all,

i am new here and i wanted to know where is the best place for shore fishing, as i do not have a boat yet
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 1:39 am:   

chua,

I'm out of this forum, I'll just see you around ok. Hope to fish with you again, come with kit and me on the next fishing trip...

take care and tight lines...
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 1:37 am:   

jeen,

first of all my friend I did not insult your kids, I didn't even insult you.

second of all I'm not dumb, c'mon man that reel in picture only loads 150 meters of 10lb mono? who are you kidding?! thats a big ass reel, its bigger than the person's hand. unless that person is a midget, you won't make me believe thats a small reel.

And don't get cocky on me man, were just discussing facts here... So you go fish with your kids, maybe you need some lessons from em...

I'm outta this forum... Its enough to meet one like you here, I dont want to meet another...
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 1:17 am:   

Hi Jeen,

Those are some nice groupers, especially so on 10 lb line. Please advise when you caught these?

Thanks,
Ijlal
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 12:51 am:   

Hi Chris,Keyur,

Keyur all fish were caught from the Abu Dhabi East road cornish.
And Chris my friend you insult my kids, these guys were fishing from age 5 . My younger son makes his own spinners and spoons since age 10 and has given many a fish a bad tooth ache!
As for the tackle used. The line was 10Lb berkley, the bite piece 3' (leader) 40lb and the plugs used are rapala floating plugs about 4". The guys start walking along the cornish and start casting and retrieving non stop till they get a hook up. The fish normally hit the lure on the surface . They maintain a breaking strain equal to almost the limit of the line and do not let the fish dive back into the water . THe flexibility of the rod is used to tire the fish . THe drag almost never comes into play. The reel is a cheap 40 dirham taiwanese reels that can load about 150 meters of 10 lb mono. Talk about big fish on small line well,forget it. I think my kids should take you fishing some time.


Tight Lines,

Jeen
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 12:46 am:   

hey guys,
good to see people are fishing evn in this weather
Mr. Jeen, I am going to go fishing from my friends boat this weekend, probably trolling. He won't be there with me, just his boatman. Can you advise me of any area i should go? I'm not asking for specifics, just a hint in the direction. I'll be fishing out of Bateen Marina.
thanks,
chris
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Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 11:07 pm:   

Dear tayeb ,

I would suggest you to get out for fuj /kof today night by 10 . Because by the time you reach there and find a suitable spot it should not be later than 1 o clock because tomorrow high tide being 3.20 . So you can hope to get some good ones before high tide comes in . As you travel along the east coast from dolphin round about towards baidhya mosque you will find several piers and you can select any one of them . The fish variety is really nice in these areas . In fact i would have loved to join you on the trip but my car is giving me some trouble so cant risk such a long drive . By the way take fresh bait with you . If you want to buy the bait locally the good place is fishing port of omani dibba where you can get it real cheap . If you are intersted in boating trips let me know i can fix you up with some boat man in dibba for decent charges .

regards

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Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 11:00 pm:   

hi jean ,

Nice pics . Could you let me know where is this spot . Is it abudhabi . What is the location from boat or from land . One seems from boat and the other from land . But really adorable catches .

regards
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Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 10:56 pm:   

Dear tayeb ,

Thanks for your call . Please find below attached map of the spots of FUJ,DIBBA,KHORFAKKAN .

If you need any clarifications dont hesitate to give me a shout .

[URL=http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fishingspotsoffujkhorfajp4.jp g][IMG]http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2715/fishingspotsoffujkhorfajp4.th. jpg[/IMG][/URL]

[URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2715/fishingspotsoffujkhorfajp4.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
Shot at 2007-07-18
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Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 10:30 pm:   

Jeen Raj,

You put a big smile on my face my friend... That's a "light" tackle to you?! Seriously, if you call that rod and reel combo in the picture light tackle, I'd hate to imagine what you'd call a medium outfit... Sorry my friend, but that outfit is bigger than my damn large spinning outfit and I consider it already a "heavy" outfit. And also not to be distrustful, but I don't believe your using 10lb test line on that outfit.

The length of a rod doesn't make it "light" my friend, and a size 5000 up reel (which I think your using) isn't "light" also.

Hey I'm pretty impressed with your catch, but "light" tackle on such a grouper and that close to rocks?! You must be one hell of a skilled angler or a very lucky one...

Again, please check you description of "LIGHT TACKLE" before making any claims...

Tight Lines!
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Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 12:41 pm:   

heyy chris
grouper on light tackle is not really a big deal.i personally have caught quite a few and even my kids get in on the action sometimes.tackle are 6'6 rods and light reels with 10 lb line
some pics to illustrate

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[URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/8863/copyofgroupa011oe3.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9503/groupaiz3.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
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RONALD DSOUZA (Ronald)
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Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 8:29 am:   

Hi Everyone,

These days since its very humid and hot, most of us do not go for fishing and the few who venture outside – get disappointed.
Don’t get disappointed, at least the new comers can practice your throws, and even if you don’t catch anything – you still learn something out of it.

It was nice to see at least one of them with rather good catch.

Good luck to you all.

Waiting for winter season, so that we all can enjoy our fishing, and this forum too.

Any news from you guys, any catch, any advice.

Keep it up.

Ronald.
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Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 6:53 am:   

Udupa,

why is it a shame? I was trolling for big fish, therefore the heavy outfit. besides how do you know it fought poorly, have you caught a grouper while trolling before?

also that size of a grouper on light tackle? I'd like to see you catch one on a light tackle... Oh by the way, my description of light tackle is a "light" outfit with 10lb test line or lower... I'd rather catch a 3kg. cuda on a light outfit than a 3kg. grouper on the same outfit...
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Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 1:43 am:   

hello chris
very nice grouper there. shame that it was caught on such heavy tackle though.Must have been a very poor fight im sure..these fish are best caught on light tackle so that they atleast pose a challenge to the angler..better luck next time.
very nice lure though. is it a rapala magnum xrap 30 trolling lure.has it produced any other species in the past???
udupa
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Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 7:50 pm:   

Hi Chris

Excellent catch with your lapu-lapu (grouper)and releasing those babies ones.

Cheers

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Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 11:15 pm:   

Hi Keyur/Biju

There is one in Jadaf one of the forum member Cornel buyed on Penn combo very nice and light from there,but i dont know the location exactly.

Thanks

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Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 11:00 pm:   

Hi Keyur,

Any other shops that you can suggest for some decent rods. Probably advice on brands as well.

Cheers!
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Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 2:54 am:   

Chua,

Nice meeting you yesterday and really enjoyed fishing with you. Hope to fish with you again.

Here's the photo kit took of the grouper I caught while we were trolling...

http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a259/darth_guyver/?action=view&curre nt=Image195.jpg

Tight Lines!
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Posted on Friday, July 13, 2007 - 12:45 am:   

Oops! I forgot to type the website address? Sorry, it's : http://www.oceanactive.com
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Posted on Friday, July 13, 2007 - 12:43 am:   

Hi all, how are you?

it seems that you all are on for the weekend. good luck.
I came throgh this website on the net and liked what I saw. take a look and see what those guys are catching at the musandam and fujasirah. just click on gallery and you will see it.

have a nice week end

Asmi
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Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 11:38 pm:   

HI Biju,

they did have 2 lighter rods.....casting weight 15 to 80 grams. Michelle, 2.4 mtr, 2 pc, carbon graphite at a throw away price......I picked up one rod & I think Heber picked up the other one 1 or 2 days ago.
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Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 8:37 pm:   

Hi Keyur,

Thanks! for the location. I took a look at the store. The prices were really really great.They had some wonderful boat roads and one 3m Mitchel spinning rod. That was a bit longer for me. I can at best keep one with 2.7m.length. That is the maximum length that can be kept horizontally in my small car.

They had a nice Mitchel Boat 210. I alomst bought it. Then decided to back out as I do not seeing me fishing out of a boat in the near future.

In case you know some place where one get a chance to look for some good rod in Dubai / UAE, pl. tell us.

Cheers
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Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 9:03 am:   

Hi Everyone,

How’s everybody………….hope all is well.

Hope you’ll are getting ready for the weekend.

Happy fishing to you all……………..I may go fishing on Friday evening at Al Seef.


Good Luck,


Ronald.
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Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 8:25 am:   

Angler14,

You've got 1-1/2 stars - At least you got noticed! (lol)
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Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 8:20 am:   

Guys,

Please notice getting a lot of votes is not always positive. You get a positive vote when your star rating of 4 or 5, average at 3 and poor at 1 and 2 stars!
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Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 5:41 am:   

Thanks for the votes everybody,you guys make me feel like Madonna.;)
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Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 12:14 am:   

dear angler 14
a very humorous post.very well put.alas i think that you have failed to notice the full stop succeeding the words "he does it again".haha.that shortens the sentence by 20 or so words but still the record i think.No hard feelings jim.its perfectly understandable that you were in a hurry, typing.
and kit, any developments on the whereabouts of the elusive persian gulf wahoo.
Keyur,still waiting for the pic of the juvenile king.

cheers
udupa
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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 12:42 pm:   

angler14, hows your brother?

anyway, his line does sound funky doesnt it? ;)

the words "im pumping him" doesnt really sound right. hahahahhaahhahha
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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 12:41 pm:   

udupa, there are fishes that school up with other fish specie...there are some instances where you catch several species at the same time on the same boat.

he did catch a kingfish, but since the "monster" got away, we really cant verify for sure, so him landing one kingfish doesnt really validate the fact that the one that got away is also a kingfish...from the way it stripped line, it could have been a whale...or a whale riding a pick up truck. hehehehehehe...
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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 9:12 am:   

I cast the bait hits the
water 30 secs later the line goes slack
i grab the rod n all hell breaks loose the drag screams
the rod bends im slippin its a monster
it runs for a 100 yards n looks like im gettin spooled
but suddenly the basterd stops im pumpin
him hes around 20 yards away cant see him in the rain n
he does it again.He runs for it im dead tired my backs killin me
he takes another 40 yards n hes done for i bring him in its like pullin in a dead bison


IGFA RECORD FOR THE LONGEST LINE WITHOUT PUNCTUATIONS.

ps"basterd stops im pumpin him"

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 6:57 am:   

dear kit
as per my reading of the account it is quite clear that our friend jim did actually land the fish and is quite sure of its identity.also considering that these fish are often in schools or groups of 3-4 individuals it is my opinion that all of the fish were kingfish.
just curious but if anyone on this forum has actually caught a wahoo in the persian gulf, please do tell.
cheers
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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 6:45 am:   

so that wouldnt be wahoo if you were fishing form shore, there are only a few places in the world that you can catch these guys from shore...hawaii is one.

could be a huge stingray...or a kingfish, which you caught.

if you are land based, then i would say you didnt set your drag correctly. you can definately whoop a kingfish on 15lbs line...more so on 30...you just have to set the drags right.

next time that happens jim, dont max out your drag...it will pop your line. palm the spool if you're using spinning gear...do that earlier on to get some more pressure on the fish...also, hold your rod as far back as you can...this should turn the fish.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 5:57 am:   

hi jim
nice to see someone finally talking about fish in double digits.i am absolutely positive that the fish you landed was a narrow barred spanish mackerel, a close relative of the wahoo but definitely not the same species.i completely agree with jeen that wahoo are not to be found in the waters of the persian gulf but i have heard of wahoo taken along the coast of oman.
also dear keyur could you post the pic of the baby kingfish..always wanted to see what the juvenile looks like.often the fry look quite different than mature specimens

cheers
udupa
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jim (Qatarfish)
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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 10:55 pm:   

Thnx guys for the welcome.

This should make things clearer.Firstly
i was fishing from the shore SO KITSTER I DIDNT HAV A BOAT TO REVERSE !

And jeen yea as i said the fish was a king
jus like the one in ur pic and yes had to cut it to make it fit in the car.
And sorry guys don hav any pics this happend 5 years ago n i didnt hav a camera then....

Waitin for fishin stories from u guys....
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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 10:45 pm:   

From experience, it is hard to collect lines if the fish is more than a 100m from your standing.
Back the boat and walk the dog, (if you are on one) else you are likely to be exhausted from fighting the long length and the added friction/drag from the seawater, and above all your fish on the far end. If the fish is not stopping at the 100m mark, chances are you are going to get spooled. Once a while they win!
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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 11:13 am:   

1- Lock you drag tight. your loosing your fish anyway this way.
2- or, free spool you reel so the fish feels no tention on the line and your chances are higher to land the fish and not getting spooled.


option 1. you lose the fish
option 2. you lose the fish and have a big lump in your throat coz the line got cut...thanks to the backlash that happened when you flipped the freespool lever.

point 1. set your drag correctly and guess what, you can add more pressure by thumbing the reel. if you are using spinning gear, you can palm the spool. there are ways to add pressure just by positioning your rod correctly so much so that even on 20lbs test line, you can land an absurdly huge wahoo...the key is point number 2. USE YOUR BOAT...BACK DOWN ON THE FISH IF IT THREATENS TO SPOOL YOU OUT.
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Hussam Al Asmi (Asmi)
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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 8:13 am:   

Hi all,

Kit, thanks for the comment about the mitchill reel and the advice. I tried it allready with some small size fish, it was ok. I feel comfortable using it, I will wait for the big fish and will judge the performance then, hope that it wont break ;-).
Keyur, thanks for the call man, and the informations. cannot wait to go out there with you guys.

Regards
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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 6:40 am:   

Hi Jim

Welcome to the forum, very interesting story and great catch also congrats. Dont you have taken any picture of that monster to make atmosphere more chill here in Dubai.

Tight lines king fish

Thanks

Tayyab
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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 3:43 am:   

mitchell avocet - the avocet is an ok reel. i wouldnt really call it spectacular but definately something you could use.

i had that reel and it caught me some fish casting on the rocks at the open beach.

it can handle some good sized fish, but i would doubt it if it was a big fish since it doesnt have an alum. body and would definately break if you go head to head with a good fish.
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