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Ijlal (Ijlal)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 12:46 pm:   

Casper,

While I would also welcome a little more consideration from Dave for the forum members, he still has offered discount; the rates for trips out of Fujairah are advertised as AED 1200 for six hours trips, not AED 1000.

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Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 12:40 pm:   

Hey Dave (Holley),

Nice website you have there. Please advise us when would be the best time to catch good sized YFT's? Who knows my buddy and I might go with you at least once. Frankly your rates, though not really too expensive, are a bit out of our budget, so we would like to ensure the greatest probability of getting some nice yellowfins. We would also want to use our own rods, which may not even be as good as you might have, but as a rule, I only fish with my own gear.

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Ijlal
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Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 7:41 am:   

Hey there Dave. How are you? thank you very much for the offer . You did mention that the AED1000 is a firsh reports deal, but its rack rate on your website. Any chance that we can cut a deal. From my side, I would go out atleast twice with you if we can cut a real fish reports deal.

Let me know Dave.

My number is 050-5506545.

Casper
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Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 7:15 am:   

Hi Guys,

Just did a trip trolling offshore DXB. It was really very disappointing we trolled for 5hrs just caught 2 medium sized barracuda and a 5 kg kingfish. Well we expected much more than that, guess with all the construcion and high rises coming up even offshore the fish have decided to stay away. Overhear that there have been really good catches offshore on the eastern coast off FUJ & RAK. Well i am def gonna head that way the next time. Hilton RAK & FUJ offer their inhouse guest only a fishing trip for 3 @ 250 per head or 750 for the boat all tackle incld. I think that sounds good better than the exhorbitant prices this side of town.

Cheers and tight lines
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Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 1:59 am:   

Thank you Dave for your commercial offer.
I think there were enough people who will go out fishing and taking money for it............
And thank you so much for your great Fishreport deal...........
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Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 12:50 am:   

Hi All,

If anyone is interested in doing any boat fishing, our boat is now back in action. It is currently on the west coast (Ajman) but we will be moving her to the east coast shortly as there are some great fish being caught there at the moment. I've got some free time on my hands so if anyone is interested in going out during the week then let me know. Special price to Fish reports users AED 1000 for six hours.(max 2 persons, tackle included) for more info visit www.smokingreels.piczo.com) tight lines - Dave
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Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 5:29 am:   

Hi Everyone,

How are you’ll. Hope all is going on well?


Hi Ijlal – How are you. How’s fishing.
Thanks for the wht. forecast site. I will check later on.

Hi Udupa – Thanks for the Barracuda picture. Good luck for bigger one next time.

Hi Carl- Welcome to fishing forum. Have fun and enjoy your fishing. Please post your fishing pictures.

Good luck to you all.

Regards,

Ronald.
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Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 4:19 am:   

Hello Guys,

Here's a wonderful site for finding your local tides around the world for free, and the best part is you get to know seven days tides in advance. I have been using this site for long and thought I might share it with you.

http://easytide.ukho.gov.uk/Easytide/EasyTide/SelectPort.aspx

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Ijlal
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udupa kanadiga (Udupa)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 2:40 am:   

and another 1 down n another one down n another 1 bites the dust
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8249/dsc00584re3.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
sorry 4 the pic quality..phone cam..damn barracuda's such a pain...hit the lure b4 nethin else does..
iji
those rymes b ill,if u get wat i spill..but y u sayin peace soo many times man??what the deal??
y u talkin lik u french..y dont u get of the bench.go n catch sum fish man,mite even catch a tench..
but u cudn catch a cold ,even in a bit of a drizzle..so dont u b talkin all bigg lik u kno more thn u kno nizzle.
peace

uduuu

oh yea btw i kno tench r freshwater fish n u cant catch em here..jus cudn think of ne other fish that rhyme with bench..cheers
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Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 2:01 am:   

Hi Guys,
Can anyone tell me whereabouts is that fishing equipment store on Beach Road in Dubai?
I'm planning a quick afternoon trolling on Friday and I need to get some crimps and some new lures.
Cheers
Dave
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Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 1:29 am:   

Hi Guys

I have been reading on this forum for a while as I have struggled to make a post. It wasnt working so I have been fiddling around for a while and think I am finally up.

I am also going to try to post some of my fishing pics that I have.

Cheers

Carl
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Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 1:22 am:   

hi guys,
WEATHER ALERT
coming weekend is rain in the emirates, so please follow the weather site prior to go to fishing trip.even for inshore or offshore.
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather
regards.
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Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 6:37 am:   

Bart,
I use different types of chumming for different type of fish.
I start by saving any left overs baits from previous trips, the left overs of my catch when I fillet them.
I use something like this in the link:
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=00307810 17543a&type=product&cmCat=search&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&QueryT ext=chum&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=chum&noImage= 0
to grind my chum and place it in plastic bags and freeze it (normally 2LB bags), once I need to chum, I take it out of the bag and place it in a mesh bag with some wieght and drop it to the desired depth. This with attract the smaller fish, once there's a feeding frenzy, I'll start throughing bigger peices of bait fish and then my hooked bait.
But you have to be careful not to over feed the fish as they won't bite.
as for where I fish, all over UAE, where ever my work takes me. I live in the US and travel a lot to UAE. If I am staying more than a week, I'll bring my gear with me. It's only $100 per extra bag.
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Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 4:48 am:   

Hey Udupa,

Peace man, peace! Ya know I's jus' pullin' yah leg! An naw zat ya've bin out diggin dem teh darnd fish, peace! n nice pictha ya hav thea!

Keep up teh gud wok!

Cheers,
Ijlal
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Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 4:38 am:   

Hello Tim,

I don't think you will be able to find the quality you are looking for. Better to order one from one of the better online stores. I am not sure about the UK but Cabelas, Basspro Shops and Tackle Direct are good US online shops to order from. I also feel the tackle prices in the US are cheaper than UK. If you are looking for top quality stuff (since you mentioned Conoflex and Zziplex) then try taking a look at G. Loomis, Lamiglas, St. Croix and Breakaway. The downside of ordering a $300+ rod online is the shipping; while a 12ft Lami would have similar dimensions to a $100.00 and probably weigh less, you would be paying 40% of the rod value in freight and you end up paying much more on the more expensive rod. Unless your primary aim is tournament casting, I would suggest to limit yourself to the likes of Penn Pro Guide (around $ 150.00). Basspro have their own brand Ocean Master (OM12..) for $119.00, which is highly rated by US East Coast surfcasters. The Saltigas you have mentioned are also an excellent choice but on the higher side.

As for the Bass you have in UK it belongs to the family Moronidae and no species of this family are found here. We do have another family of Sea Basses known as Serranidae, which includes the famous Hamour (Grouper).

Just my two-cents...

Thanks,
Ijlal
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Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 4:02 am:   

Hey guys .... just incase you'll dont have this ... found a fantastic website that gives you offshore wind and tide forecast .. check it out ..

http://www.windfinder.com/windreports/windkarte_ae.htm

Casper
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Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 3:38 am:   

hey all went out to put in a few casts 2day mornin b4 work n juss a few snappers n an orangespot trevally..too small to talk bout ..but a really pretty barracudda that really ripped up my softie..here's a pic
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/7227/dsc00577bz5.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

also ijlal
come on mann...dont make like kit r keyur n chicken out..get bak at me mann..what r u a man r a mouse??
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Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 2:33 am:   

Hi Ijlal,
Thanks for the clarification - I had trouble swallowing my tuna sandwich there for a minute! ;)
I guess it's all about local knowledge. If I caught a real dolphin my wife would divorce me on the spot!
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Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 1:51 am:   

Hi Rami,

Got a question about how u chum... I take it you guys use a chum bag of some sort? Or do you just chum by throwing bits of fish in the water to attract the predators?

And if your talking about dolphin then i take it you fish the east coast somewhere?

Thanks,

Bart
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Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 1:47 am:   

Hey Dave,

Don't be silly! Of course Rami isn't targeting dolphin the mammal. He is talking about one of the tastiest fish there is that is also a great acrobatic fighter and jumps repeatedly out of water in effort of throwing off the hook out of its mouth.

Dolphin aka Dolphinfish aka Dorado aka Mahi-mahi!

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Ijlal
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Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 12:29 am:   

Rami,
Thanks for the advise. I'm intrigued - did you say you target Dolphins?!
I'm no tree-hugger, but I can't say I approve of that mate.
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Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 9:10 pm:   

Hi Ijlal,
Thanks for the welcome and the reply.
Answer to your questions 1: Dubai
2: surf/beachcaster 3: No Limit as long as its good quality and is suitable to my casting style. Needs to be fast taper action and guides for multiplier. Needs to be suitable for my 6500CT. Not really in to floppy euro or USA stuff. I guess im looking for what im used to in the UK.....Zziplex or Conoflex. I have seen the Daiwa Saltigo range, they seem ok, are they availiable in UAE?

Again thanks for your welcome, i look forward to some good fishing over the next few months.
Tight lines everyone.

Tim
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Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 7:37 am:   

Hi Dave,
The best way to catch more fish when you see a bait ball in the water is either to troll around it with lures just below the surface. Never never steer your boat into the bait ball, as that will lower much lower your chances of catching fish.
The otherway is to cast on the side of the bait ball. If you can see the direction of which the bait ball is heading, cast into that direction and then reel back but dont go through the bait ball.
You can use either natrual or artificial both work well depends of the size of the bait ball and what are you using for bait.
The otherway is to Chum them to the point of which you hand pick the fish you want to catch. This tech i use for Dolphin and Cobia, get them to the boat and then focus on the biggest one and booooooooom fish on.
also, it's always handy to keep a spinning outfit ready by your side in case of a target pops up in view. this in case you dont want to use a casting outfit.
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Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 6:49 am:   

Hi Ijlal,
Thank you very much for the tips, these will be taken on board.
Regarding the location, its actually quite simple. Put yourself in line with the channel that heads out of Mina Zayed. Go past the first 3 or 4 sets of beacons (I can't remember the exact number) and then hear North East for about a mile or so. The depth changes from 60ft to about 20ft-25ft - it's slightly outside the channel.
I'm sorry I don't remember the exact coordinates - it's in the GPS - but I'll try to remember to get them out next time.
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Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 6:35 am:   

Hello Dave,

Congratulations on your first and successful trip out of UAE. Next time you see tuna in action try trolling feathered jigs and small soft head skirts. When you are able to see fish feed on the surface you would require top water lures and in sizes to match the baitfish they are feeding upon. Another tip is not to go directly into the feeding fish but troll around the edges of the bait congregations, as many a times the presence of a boat would disturb the feeding fish and put them off. Also when you are not getting a strike, wait for the bait to sound. As soon as the bait disappears from within easy reach of the predators, they will most of the time be on the lookout for easy prey, being in the feeding frenzy they have been, and you will tend to get more strikes during the following 10-15 minutes.

Lastly, is it possible to divulge the coordinates of the place you were getting many strikes at? If you want to keep that place a secret no problem, but considering there are so few Abu Dhabi anglers on this forum and even fewer who might actually make use of that spot, it shouldn't really hurt to make the place public.

Cheers!
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Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 5:17 am:   

Hi Casper,
The brace of kingfish we caught were not hard fighters but clever fighters, wriggling about to get the rapala off, 'playing dead' near the boat and then darting down again. Clever use of the reel was the key. One was about 2kg and the other about 3kg. I find it a very good fish to catch in that it teaches you to control your reel action properly. If I catch a smaller one next time I intend to try to use it as live bait and aim for big 'cudas or, if I'm lucky, a shark. If I'm VERY lucky perhaps a sailfish...who knows right?
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Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 4:59 am:   

Zappa,

Welcome to the forum! Before one can answer your question kindly be specific: 1. Are you in Dubai or Abu Dhabi, 2. Are you looking for a conventional or spinning surf rod. 3. what is your budget. If you are looking for a conventional, the answer is if you do find one it will be very expensive. The only store here in Abu Dhabi that has a few is selling at almost double the price they should be.

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Ijlal
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Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 4:52 am:   

Hi all,

Shahzad and I also went fishing on Friday night. Nothing during the night... shifted to another location around 4:30 am, action started at first hint of light. caught some nice table fish, though nothing big; biggest one being 2 kg barracuda. To summarize, 3 Naqroor (Silver Grunts) of which 2 around a kilo each, 2 good sized flatheads at least 1 kg each, one yellowfin Seabream around 0.75 to 1.0 kg and one Goldlined seabream 0.5-0.6 kg. Also caught a few other smaller fish that we let go. All in all it was fun - The weather was a bit chilly toward the morning, though.

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Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 3:41 am:   

Dave, a quick question ... did the kings give you a bit of a fight or were they small one's ? Could you please tell us more about the size ?

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Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 3:17 am:   

Hey there Dave. Well done on the king fish. I think november is going to be the best time for king fish. Something that i think is useful while trolling is the use of chum. I think one of the other very good techniques is the use of live bait fish ... if we can catch them first.

The fish i caught at Mamzar was the small scaled terapon. Didn't have a camera, but have a pic on my mobile phone.

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Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 2:18 am:   

hi all again, seems i've drawn a blank!!! on the surf rod question (no joke intended).

Another question: Sea Bass....are there any in these waters?? and whats the best tactic for them?
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Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 1:48 am:   

Hi Dave,

Yup sounds like a typical frustrating day when you have the fish around u but u cant get many hits... I dont know why but the fish seem very reluctant to go for lures like rapala etc when their chasing bait fish over here. I think the best thing to do is to use small lures which mimic the size of the bait fish. I can also suggest casting or trolling some sabiki (faether hooks) as they work great on the mackrel/tuna/ jack like species which often chase the bait fish. Ur most likely not to get any monsters but its great fun all the same!

http://www.daybreakfishing.com/Tutorials/Ballyhoo1.htm

thats a link that should give u some advice on rigging ballyhoo. if u just google it there a re loads of sites about it because every1 seems to have their own special way of doing things. takes some practice and id recomend u order some ready ballyhoo rigging kits from one of the american online fishing stores! best way to start unles u have some1 in abu dhabi show you how to do it first hand! im no expert at it myself haha.

id also suggest u try some casting/spinning with lures or dead/live bait around the bait fish instead of trolling... for some reason it tends to bring better results. but once again that can differ from a day to day basis! give it a go anyway and see what works in abu dhabi!
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Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 1:48 am:   

Hi Bart,
Forgot to say we were using 2 trolling lines. One of those is a Daiwa 24kg rod with a Mitchell reel and local line which I bought in Carrefour!
I have to say I was highly impressed with it considering it was bought whithin very limited choice at Carrefour. The other line is a more serious trolling rod with Penn Senator reel which we bought in Mauritius about 6 years ago.
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Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 1:27 am:   

Hi Bart,
Thank you very much for the tips regarding the schools of bait fish. I couldn't really tell what those were but in a general sense they looked like sardines. They were indeed chased to the surface by bigger fish, I think I spotted a few 'cudas, some kingfish, and many yellow-tailed (semi-circular in chape) fish which I'm guessing are tunas.
It was immensely frustrating to not get a decent strike with so many fish present all around our boat. I have to admit I've not used poppers before, and I haven't used live bait in the Gulf either - more information as to how to rig those up is most welcome! :-)
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Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 1:19 am:   

Hi Dave,

Thanks for your information’s. It is interesting to know that you’re geared up for next trip. Good luck.

Hi Casper – Nice to know that you enjoyed your early morning fishing. If you don’t mind keep us informed about your techniques- like what bait (artificial or fresh) you used etc.

Hi Friends- How are you’ll. Hope you had a nice weekend.

I had been to Creek Park for a picnic with my Family and Friends, even did fishing, just got thru’ with few Catfish (small ones though), using Squid as bait, but overall had a nice day. In the evening I could see around 6-8 of them fishing under the Gharood bridge.


Regards,

Ronald.
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Bartosz S (Bart)
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Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 1:12 am:   

Hey Dave,

Congratulations! Getting a couple of kings on your first outting is def a great result! The waters here are realy unique as you found out so sometimes people find it difficult to addapt even if they have experience from elsewhere.

As far as the schools of fish are concerned ive found mixed results while fishing near them... as you said in other parts of the world big schools of bait fish means guaranteed strikes. Did you see what fish they were? and where there any predators chasing them to the surface? What ive found to work best is to troll near the baitfish and not neccessarily through the centre, using small surface lures like poppers or even trolling some dead bait (like ballyhoo) behind some teasers... results vary from day to day ranging from 2-3kg tuna or barracude to 30kg kingfish! how many rods were u guys using?

As far as getting ur lines cut by the other boats... that happens here specially by 'sunday' boaters who only go out to show their friends they have a boat.they dnt really know what their doing so you cant expect much more to be honest! If you go out a couple of times ull see the regulars tend to know what their doing and fishing with a couple of boats in the same area is possible!

sorry i cant help u with fishing spots in abu dhabi as in dubai based but u seem to be doing a good job anyway! next time try post some photos!
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Dave Delbecq (Daved)
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Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 10:55 pm:   

Hi all,

So I went out trolling on Friday to test the waters off of Abu Dhabi. We left the British Club around 11am and got back around 6pm.
We went straight out about 8 miles N/NW of Mina Zayed.

Good day generally, bagged a couple of Kingfish.
It wasn't bad considering we were testing our gear, and adapting from what we used in Mauritius (plastic squid lures) to rapalas of various sizes (till we found the right ones).

There were many birds in feeding frenzy over schools of smaller fish, which inevitably attracted bigger fish. Despite going 'through the schools' several times with various types of tackle we only got a weak strike and nothing more in that area. We found this to be particularly bizarre - the main technique in Mauritius being to go straight for birds and 'pass through' (with usually 90% success rate). Clearly Gulf waters are different.

An unpleasant part of the day was when another boat deliberately went straight through my line, cutting off my rig and my rapala with it. No apologies given. I guess good manners are quite rare.

In the end we found a very good spot, with many strikes, some decent Kingfish, but we had to leave as the sun was going down fast. I have marked the spot on my GPS and will definitely go back.

If anyone has better spots for trolling in Abu Dhabi, please let me know!

Cheers

Dave.
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Owais Ahmed (Owahm)
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Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 10:00 pm:   

Well done Casper, as Richie said, Send us the details and a few snaps would be good too.

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Owais
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tim (Zappa1968)
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Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 9:25 pm:   

Hi Guys,

Looking for good 12ft surf rod in Dubai/UAE. Any advice as to where i might get my hands on one?
Failing that, are there any carbon blanks availiable??

Thanks

Zappa
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Rich (Richie)
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Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 10:35 am:   

Well done Casper - let us know what you caught and how - photos would be nice.
Had my first day kayak fishing yesterday...nice experience, but more kayaking than fishing!!
Next time....
Best
R
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Casper (Casper)
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 11:07 am:   

Hey guys .... went fishing at mamzar today morning at about 4am ... got a big haul for a feast ... a good number of fishes caught, the water was full of fish this morning ... just thought i;d let you'll know ...

Casper
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abdul hamed bin facqr (Abdulhamed)
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Posted on Thursday, October 25, 2007 - 4:13 pm:   

ebay - like i said it was a sale item, $59.99 is price in basspro.com and you can get better prices on offline shops as well.

shipping can be only 20% of cost. still less than 350AED.

i did not mean any harm, just asking people to support you Ijlal...bcz you said the reel is new and with line and you are not after profit, so i think you are good man.
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Posted on Thursday, October 25, 2007 - 7:23 am:   

Dibba Rock (off the Holiday Beach Motel), Sharm Rocks (just south) and Snoopy Rock (off the Sandy Beach Hotel)are all small islands in Marine Reserves and no fishing is allowed. Around Dibba Rock, white buoys delineate the 'no fishing' Marine Reserve area. There are also no fishing signs on sections of the beach here - at Dibba around the HBM, and at Sandy Beach Hotel area.
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R
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