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Syed Ijlal Hussain (Ijlal)
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Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 11:03 pm:   

Spark plugs do snag more so you lose more but do have an advantage too. Tie them to the outer contact using a small loop in the line or use a small snap, and lightly hammer the contact to close the gap. If the plug snags, a little extra pressure would reopen the gap and your line would become free of the sinker - especially useful if you have a fish on. I personally never use spark plugs but this is one positive side to using them as sinkers.

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Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 10:15 pm:   

Hi Charley,

good for you. But not everyone can afford to hire a charter. some of us might have the resources to do that, while others would find it a waste of money.

I'm really surprised that you caught emperor Snappers here in the UAE. I didnt even know that they were around. I hope you released it as they are more like aquarium fish.....Or was it Spangled emperor (sherri) ???

Why dont you post some pics of your trip instead of just sending us the link to the charter service ?

Desmond.....spark plugs are ok....I have seen quite a few people use them, but I wouldnt recommend them, as they are more likely to get caught in the rocks.

Using a sinker with a roundish appearance is less likely to get caught in the rocks.
The number of hooks & the shape of the hooks also makes a difference to the number of times you get snagged in the rocks.

Practise well & learn well.....fishing is 5% art, 5% common sense & 90% luck......its upto you to try & make the most out of any given situation.
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Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 9:29 am:   

We charted a boat with this company last friday
the fishing was fantastic, i landed 3 kings, my friend dave laded one king and sam landed two
we also caught a lot of baraccodas and emperror snappers and a larg grouper
It was the best time fishing in my life
Does any of you guys know any small boat for sale? i am looking for something aroud 20 thousand
thanks
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Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 9:18 am:   

Hi guys
check out this link for the good catches
http://www.oceanadventuresuae.com/photos.htm
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Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 9:15 am:   

Managed to get one Sheri in Umm Al Quain. Sorry no pics though. :-)
DeZZ
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Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 9:14 am:   

Hi Dezz

try using a pulley rig system with a rotten bottom, as the fish takes the bait it will pull the sinker with it, if the lead is stuck it should snap at the rotten line link. Use nuts and sparkies as weights and light line (10lbs) for weight leader.

Hope this helps????
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Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 8:30 am:   

Hey Ijal,

Thanks a ton sir. I got some sparkplugs which i think i can use as sinkers. Is that ok? I tried both squid as well as sardine but i did not use the whole of sardine i cut them to two and used two hooks on one line. by the way what number hook should i be using if i were to use bait like sardine or shrimps fishing hamour or queen fish etc?
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Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 3:41 am:   

Hiya Pranab,

Welcome back man! How was fishing back home?? What are your plans for the next weekend???

Cheers,
Ijlal
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Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 3:38 am:   

Hello Desmond,

As King put it everybody will lose tackle to the rocks. A newbie would lose more, but take courage from a baby's initiative of learning to walk. Sooner or later, you would get the hang of it. 'The feel' comes with experience but this is one thing you cannot buy at a market, however you can spend a few extra Dirhams on sinkers and hooks. Perseverence is the key, so keep at it!

As for bait, squid works fine with both groupers and queenfish, and so do shrimps and sardines; however, nothing beats a fresh, whole sardine for hamour.

Have a great day!

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Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 2:48 am:   

Hey King!

Welcome back!!! Where have ya been man? On vacation I guess? Now don't be sarcastic... there are no maestros here and you have given sound advice to Desmond. Would love to see you contribute more regularly

Take care,
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Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 12:39 am:   

Hey ya Fishing King,

Thanks for that piece of advice. I was using the "drop" like sinker. Have been to this location (Looks like a perfect fishing spot with structures like harbour which is close to Ajman Kempenski.)Like you said I later tried giving a yank and reeling at a speed where it was suspended from rocks adn had no probs but once i cast there were more chances of it getting stuck. But I believe expereince is what matters here as I saw others were also fishing and I was the one having more difficulties retrieving the terminal tackle. Well what more can me expected from a rookie like me :-) By the way what bait do you need to use for hamour and queens? I was using squid as bait. Any suggestions on the bait as well as the locations is highly appreciated.

DeZZ
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Posted on Sunday, December 02, 2007 - 11:58 pm:   

Hey Desmond,

everyone fishing near rocks will loose their sinkers & hooks from time to time. The trick is in reducing the times you lose your terminal tackle.

You will have to change your style based on the approximate shape of the rock formations. the rocks could be V-shaped, sharped edged or just round. Different shapes of sinkers, different height & position of tying the sinkers & hooks does help a bit.

The most important thing is how you retreive your line. Most people lose their terminal tackle as they reel in without giving the initial yank which is required to lift the sinker off the bottom.

Bottom fishing, mid water level fishing & float fishing is for different species. Eg: Queens are mid water to top water feeders, hamour are bottom to mid water level feeders.

so just changing from bottom to float fishing will not solve your problem.

However, since there are more than a few maestros here I'm sure that like always, others will profess to better solutions.
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Posted on Sunday, December 02, 2007 - 8:15 pm:   

Hi Guys,

Was in Ajman fishing, besides kempinski hotel, lost a couple of sinkers and hooks in the rocks, any comments whether I should be using floats to save my sinkers?

DeZZ
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Posted on Sunday, December 02, 2007 - 8:13 pm:   

Hi Udupa,

Where did you catch that bream? That area looks kinda familiar?

DeZZ
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Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 11:04 am:   

hi udupa,
good catch,
and your comment about the mullet on the cornice. even i have seen many times on the other side, that fishes are jump not in panic.they jump in one line and looks to me that they were playing.and one times i have seen around 20-25 numbers at night and they are huge around 2-3kg one piece.but they are not interested in any bait.i think mullets are tough competitors on the bait.
regards.......shaz
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Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 8:46 am:   

Good catch Udupa. One of the biggest breams ive seen from that type. Congratulations.
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Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 3:50 am:   

[URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5678/dsc00594zw4.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7517/dsc00590tl2.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

caught these earlier today..
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Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 10:46 pm:   

hi ijlal,

Nice king . Just saw it today after i came back to dubai after holidays
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Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 3:49 am:   

sorry guys kinda jus realisd how little sense my previous post makes..the pic is jus a mangrove jack i caught earlier today and rest of the msg was with regard to my question about the surface activity on the corniche
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Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 3:44 am:   

wasabii !!
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dont really thinks its barracuda cuz each of these mullets is around 3-4 kgs...but i guess it is possible..n cant be big grouper either cuz it happens in shallow water right up against the beach on the other side and i think grouper are primarily ambush predators are they not??just my opinion...
cheers
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Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 2:50 am:   

Hi Desmond,

Thanks for your mail. Hau Mangaloor cho.

Hi Dave, even i feel the same.

All the best for weekend. Enjoy your fishing.

Regards,

Ronald.
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Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 1:55 am:   

Hi Ronald,

Goinkar re tu?

Hau Sawantwadi cho.

DeZZ
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Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 1:53 am:   

Hi Guys,

The fish are probably being spooked by small barracuda.

tight lines

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Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 9:50 pm:   

Hi Desmond,
Liked the way you wrote.

Appreciate all those who share their ideas.

Keep it up.

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Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 7:21 am:   

Udupa,

I have seen this spectacle, probably a hundred times at the Corniche. Stopped for a while this evening also and saw it again, but I think they are small queenies and not mullet. I cannot be sure and may be wrong, but the ones I saw today were certainly queenfish. I am as much at a loss as you are what might be chasing them. Is it possible there are giant grouper over there???

Take care,
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Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 4:49 am:   

heyy mr.ijlal
the last couple of times i've been to the corniche ive seen mullets on the other side getting spooked n jumping around like they're being hunted...n u know well that the mullets at the corniche r not that small...i cant really figure out what it is thats chasing them.
i thought at first tht maybe they were kingfish..but ive never caught or seen anyone catch kings at the corniche..seriously cant figure..was juss wonderin if u'd seen the same or if you could shed any light on the subject
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Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 2:55 am:   

Hey Udupa,

Nice catch yaar. Bream are known to take lures, but never thought they would take such big one (comparatively.)

Cheers.
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Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 2:24 am:   

Hi Jess,

No philosophy involved sir. Just trying to keep the weeds @ bay.

Cherio
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Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 1:45 am:   

"People who nag about their skills or rather believe in pointing a finger at others simply have developed a feminine behavior and often forget that this is a fishing forum. They say when a Elephant walks a lot many canines bark but it does not matter the elephant, so be it that way, let the dogs bark and you know what you should be doing, "JUS KEEP UP DA GOOD WORK". If the elephant had to run after the dogs he would make a fool of himself. No now you know what you should be doing next."

Another philosophical nut case......to join the rest....

Remember when there is no fish of phish....it just means that the almighty has forgotten you're there phishing......or he's just run out of phish.....

Phish are just a gift of the almighty given to you after testing your patience to the limits and pushing your humble self to your rod's end.....

Cheers

Jess
Pointing your fingers at others is feminine; pointing your rod at others is masculine...

Now let me hear the dogs bark......
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Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 1:33 am:   

heyy all
went to the corniche.was reaaly windy and could barely cast..this is all i could catch..a bream on rapala..this is a first for me
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cheerio hip hip n all that jazz
:-)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 1:29 am:   

Hi Ijal,

Well returning empty handed does not mean you have failed, its just that you are getting better by adding it to your experience and who says that you have to have a catch everytime you fish. In fact I will teach my kids to fish as it teachs you about patience (Eh and my wife as well as she requires it more that anyone ;) I have been fishing in my home town way back in maharashtra, India and many a time have returned empty handed but I have learnt a lot and infact learning more thru these forums.

With regards to the license, you can apply for it online on the dubai gov web site and its not a big deal as you have to upload a few copies and you are done and they will contact you once it is ready. I can send you the link to do so if you wish.

With regards to you being so active, let me tell you something if there are pros and not replying to the forum then take it this way, its just that they dont have enough time to reply or suggest tips to rookies (like me), but I find there is a lot of activity on this forum and you being the most active one, thanks for everything sir. People who nag about their skills or rather believe in pointing a finger at others simply have developed a feminine behavior and often forget that this is a fishing forum. They say when a Elephant walks a lot many canines bark but it does not matter the elephant, so be it that way, let the dogs bark and you know what you should be doing, "JUS KEEP UP DA GOOD WORK". If the elephant had to run after the dogs he would make a fool of himself. No now you know what you should be doing next.

"If we knew where the fish were, there would be no fun in fishing. Might as well called it Phishing".

Adios Amigo - DeZZ

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Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 10:38 pm:   

Hello Desmond,

You may not think the same way when you go out with me a few times and come back empty handed!

Really, I do not mind fishing with you or any other member, but I do not have a Dubai license so do not fish there.

Have a great weekend!
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Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 10:31 pm:   

Des and Tim,

Thank you for your kind remarks but be advised I have been branded a 'sucker', a 'know-it-all'
and a 'moron' many times on this forum. Really, I have a lot to learn, but you may be right about the fishaholic stuff; I really love fishing and everything related to it. This is the reason you find me more active on the forum than most members and ready to help anybody on anything I have learnt along the way.

There are many other anglers on the forum who probably know more, but I just hope they throw away their miserly attitudes and come forward to share their knowledge and experiences with all of us, participate in debates and not shy away from being opposed. Fishing is lesser of a science and more an art form; there are no universal truths here. Fish are as unpredictable in behaviour as are we. I may have a different opinion on the choice of bait than you do. I may learn something from you just as you would from me.

Just my two cents in trying to make the forum a more interesting place to be a member of.

Thanks once again.
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Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 9:02 am:   

Ijlal,

You are truly a fishaholic, Im sure everybody appreciates your comments and advice, i do!!

Well done matey......tight lines.
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Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 8:57 am:   

Hi fella anglers check this out I dont believe this. the best and easiest way of fishing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDTKCZur1vM

DeZZ
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Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 12:18 am:   

Greetings Ijal,

I think I have to be with you to learn a bit more about fishing. Do you happen to be here in Dubai for fishing. If yes let me know when I can join you if you don't mind. Only on weekends though ;)

cherio
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Posted on Monday, November 26, 2007 - 9:04 pm:   

Hello Gautham,

Yes, you are quite right. I do live in Abu Dhabi.

Cheers,
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Posted on Monday, November 26, 2007 - 9:01 pm:   

Hi Desmond,

The type of leader one should use depends upon the tackle one is using and species of fish targeted. I do not go higher than 40 lb leader on 20 lb line on my surf rods - Used as shock leader, this ensures the main line does not break due to the initial shock of casting heavier weights and the inertia of the stationary line.

On one of my trolling rods on which I am using 40 lb line, I dont use a leader at all. Of course, if I was going after big game that would be a different proposition altogether.

When rigging a sardine, I normally add a short wire trace to ensure the line does not get cut off by toothy creatures such as barracuda and kingfish.

Hope this helps...

Thanks,
Ijlal
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Posted on Monday, November 26, 2007 - 11:35 am:   

Ijlal,

Thanks for the advice. I believe you are based in Abu Dhabi right?
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Posted on Monday, November 26, 2007 - 4:07 am:   

Hi Ijal,

Whats the number of leader you should be using for the sardine bait
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Posted on Monday, November 26, 2007 - 3:28 am:   

Quote: "man u're like one of the sharpest knives around" Unquote.

Is that supposed to be a compliment or a pun is intended?

Was just wondering if you are who you claim to be; how do you expect your father not to notice now that you have proclaimed your alterego publicly on the forum? I'll keep quiet, though, so don't worry!

Have a nice week full of fish!
Uncle
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Syed Ijlal Hussain (Ijlal)
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Posted on Monday, November 26, 2007 - 3:14 am:   

Welcome aboard Folker!

Squid is a very good bait but not the best one. Some of the fish found here, especially of the bream family will very seldom bite on squid, if ever. The bait that any fish would eat is shrimps; however, the drawback here is all the small fish will finish it off before a bigger fish gets an opportunity to take it most of the time. Also, due to smaller size, many big fish may not be interested in the first place. Another excellent bait, especially when fishing for larger species is sardine, locally known as 'ooma' but the choice of bait would depend on the species you are targeting.

As for the line selection, check the rating of your rod and use accordingly. On a rod rated for 10-20 lb, I would go for 14-16 lb line.

Just my two cents...

Cheers,
Ijlal
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Simeon Fields (Ctown75)
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Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 11:50 am:   

Hello

I was up in Ras Al Khamin [spelling]over the weekend at the Hiltonia beach resort and they have a fishing deal 250 AED per person for 4 hrs,the guy said you must have three people.I could not understand all the guy was telling me but I think they supply the gear, I am not sure so call for info.It seems like a good deal but I can not do it until January.
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RONALD DSOUZA (Ronald)
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Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 5:32 am:   

Hi Folker,

Welcome aboard and Good Luck.

Ronald.
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Folker (Folker)
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Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 3:06 am:   

Hi guys!

Another newbie... I used to go fishing back home with my dad, but things are most likely a bit different around here. I had planned to go fishing next weekend, as I have a nice and pleasant 3 days off. I went to Carrefour to get a rod and as usual, I do things without thinking it through in advance.
- I had no clue what rod to get (got a Mitchell T350 in the end, no clue if it's good)
- Same for the hooks, lead, floater etc.
- No clue what bait to use.

I've seen some guys fishing on a pier-like thing in ajman, close to the Baywatch Club, so I planned to go there.

I've understood from this forum that the best bait is squid? What line do I use? Is a 4/100 ok? And what fish to expect, if any of course...
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RONALD DSOUZA (Ronald)
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Posted on Saturday, November 24, 2007 - 10:44 pm:   

Hi Everyone,

Hope you’ll had a nice w