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Amir Mufti (Amir)
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Post Number: 48
Registered: 7-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 11:05 pm: | |
Some of you guys must have definitely fished the previous week. So can we pls have some reports and pictures. |
Abdul Latif (Jigwrex)
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Registered: 2-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 10:27 pm: | |
Hey guys!
What is happening here?
I thought that this kind of forums are suppose to be constructive (for knowledge and skill enrichments) rather than the opposite.
Best Regards! |
Stephen Stack (Fishey_friend)
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Registered: 3-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 9:46 pm: | |
If I am wrong then I will stand up and say sorry. But here is a link to a website http://www.jerrylabella.com/ling.htm this is the fish I have caught. Ijlal I agree that the Molva Molva is not a cobia but a rock ling however did I ever say rock ling? Can't remember saying that? So lets just agree to disagree.
Oh by the way Mensa tested me in 1984 and I have an IQ of 158 ...... but also let me tell you that having a high IQ doesn't mean your anymore intelligent than somebody with an IQ of say 120 it just means that your ability to solve solutions is better. For instance my brother has an IQ of 134 but let me just say he is far more a intelligent person than I. So that blows that one out of the water does it not? I also have a learning disability and having problems with the spelling of some words so again so what? It is a mild form of dyslexia.
And, how did you put it "by your own country's organization, Mensa International" ....... can anybody see that all important word INTERNATIONAL???? hmmmm again that wonderful lack of INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD ...... Mensa was started by 2 Englishmen I agree, but it was started as an INTERNATIONAL Mental Agility Table. The English invented Cricket but its not ours????
Oh and for your reference "The word "Mensa" means "table" in Latin. The name stands for a round-table society, where race, color, creed, national origin, age, politics, educational or social background are irrelevant."
Can we all just agree that fish are called different names by different people all over the world and because of their language differences sometimes these names don't translate into the International Common Language of ENGLISH.
Go to Wikipedia and type in Dorado ..... This fish has got a lot of common names .... Common Dolphinfish, Dolphin, Dorado, and Mahi Mahi ..... Now it is called the Mahi Mahi in Hawaii and it means Strong-Strong but in Persian Mahi Mahi means Fish-Fish ..... dare I say it ..... Same fish different meaning. The same can also go for the word Ling, here is what comes up if you type ling in to Wikipedia:
"Ling may refer to:
Several species of fish:
Burbot, Lota lota.
Blue ling, Molva dypterygia.
Cobia, Rachycentron canadum.
Common ling, Molva molva.
Pink cusk-eel, Genypterus blacodes.
Red hake, Urophycis chuss."
So sorry but again I am right in my description. Wikipedia is not written by a single person it is brought together by everybody throughout the world from thousands of different sources.
As a buddhist at heart (not practicing) let me tell you that Racism is a terrible thing and one that us so called Englishmen get red carded for so easily. I am no more a racist than the Dali Lama is? I believe that all human beings are equal and therefore live equally. My wife for instance is of mid/far east origin and her skin colour is Olive so how could I be a racist and not resent my own wife. My brother's wife is from Nigeria so again same as above. My best friend is a local guy so again same as above my favorite countries in the whole world are Thailand and Malaysia and the reason .... the people and of course the natural beauty, but mainly the people.
So enough of this fighting .... Mr. Ijlal I apologise sincerely for calling you a fool, and idiot and an imbecile and I have no excuse for it ...... but please remember being told I am wrong is both an insult on my trueism and name. I am not a lier. Please everbody in the name of International Brotherhood lets stop this fighting ...... As John Lennon once said "Make Love Not War" by the way he didn't mean make love in the physical way!!!! |
PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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Post Number: 407
Registered: 2-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 9:45 pm: | |
Dear bart ,
I totally agree with you . But as i am writing here for long i have grown an attachment to write here . So i will try my level best to bring peace among members here .
I am also happy Ian being a passionate fisherman tried to do something innovative . I appreciate his hard work . I have personally called Ian and Ijlal and told them not to fight over a fish name . Both are matured enough to do so rather than do bonito or kawa kawa .
I dont know if the fishermen community would support this proposed meet . But i wish they do so . It would give us a reason to meet each other whom we just know on the basis of a forum .
By the way ian this is for you . I lost the password to fish emirates so i cant log in now . Would u send to my email the password please if you have it . And thanks a lot for the sms on carp fishing .
with regards
pranab |
Bartosz S (Bart)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 9:10 pm: | |
Dear all,
Your being lame with this argument crap. Honestly im sure 95% of people who read this forum dont give a shit about the differences about ling, cobia or any other fish anymore! Post your opinion and if someone doesnt agree thats their problem, accept you have given your input to the situation and be happy with it.
I used to come to the forum to read reports and get some tips but now its one giant soap opera and you guys have all got sensitive like little girls! And honestly bringing in nationality??? whats next religion? keep it up and you mite aswell shut the forum down.
Pranab im sure every1 appreciates you trying to make peace between everyone but i think its a lost cause! im pretty sure im one of the youngest forum members and im the one telling you guys to grow up.
anyway migrating to the fish emirates forum as its actually constructive. Sorry pranab and best of luck getting this forum back the way it used to be.
Cheers ,
Bart |
PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 8:59 pm: | |
hi guys ,
By the way if it goes on i will be the offical photographer of this event . As my boating experience is very less . But i will bring my family along and will extend my full support behind this event .
With regards
pranab
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PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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Post Number: 405
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 8:56 pm: | |
Hi guys ,
I think the idea of a fishing get togather is nice . But that should not end up in a fight . The whole purpose is we do a nice get togather . My sugession every member who want to participate should pitch in AED 250 per head . Per family 500 includes children . The venue can be west cost of mussandam .
I can organise this with two villas from a resort which will cost us AED 625 each . These villas have 3 big rooms and can accodomate min 15 person with attached bath and kitchen facilities where you can do barbacue . I can organise food from the flight catering from terminal 2 . So if we aer looking at a target of 25 to 30 people i can jolly well organise this with a prize shimano / penn fishing reel who catches maximum no of fish from the boat on that day .
Would request guys who have got boat to help in this event and members can share the fuel cost .
I am into organising this if this is a non profit event . I can also organise sponsorship from lot of companies just to help . I have organised events like this in the past with success but not for fishing .
Finally would request pervez please you can put forward your point of view but abstain from using racial comments . We have enough of that existing in the world .
And one more thing . I hope every one will agree with me . I know ian and ijlal personally . Both of them are very passionate fisherman . And if either of them goes back from the get togather with less no of fish our comments cant make them less knowledgable .
If any one think this way it shows how immature this person is . By the way if this proposed get togather goes ahead i would request every one who have their families to bring them as we fishermen always neglect their families while we go on fishing . It will give us a chance to show that we are not doing that this time .
Would appreciate comments from forum members . Hope they do so , because if they jump to fight on name of fish why not on this topic .
With regards
pranab
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Jess Montes (Jess)
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Post Number: 50
Registered: 5-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 8:48 pm: | |
Hey General,
Your tone and style of writing give you away. The way you spell "competetion" & "bate" betray you..... and
this is not the first time you call for a "competition"
And Ijlal...........the 'General' is not from Pakistan.
Guys.....do your homework and find out who the "General" is.
Cheers,
Jess
STOP RACISM.......KEEP IT OUT OF THE FORUM. |
Syed Ijlal Hussain (Ijlal)
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Post Number: 233
Registered: 6-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 8:45 pm: | |
General Pervaiz,
I don't know who you are and I most certainly do not approve of what you have written. If there is an argument, it should be based upon objectivity, not on the basis of different countries we come from.
On another note, all forum members may please realize Mr. Pervaiz may not even be a Pakistani, but one trying to exploit the situation to give me and my country a bad name.
Thanks,
Ijlal |
Syed Ijlal Hussain (Ijlal)
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Post Number: 232
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 12:08 pm: | |
My Dear Mr. Stack,
You have written: "...... but are some people big enough to stand up and say "ok I was wrong" ....... doubtful" Well, are you???
You have posted a link to cobia but did you try comparing that to the links of cobia and ling I had sent earlier? Did you notice that the only thing you have been able to prove is some people around the world do call the cobia, 'ling', but then it is also called 'crab eater' and 'black kingfish'. Whatever name you may use to refer to a cobia, it remains as follows:
Species: Rachycentron canadum
Family: Rachicentridae (cobia)
Order: Perciformes (perch-likes)
Class: Actinopterygii (ray-finned fishes)
On the other hand the ling found around the British Isles, and elsewhere, is classified as such by the scientists:
Species: Molva molva
Family: Lotidae (Hakes and burbots)
Order: Gadiformes (cods)
Class: Actinopterygii (ray-finned fishes)
You may also notice that although some do call cobia as ling, nobody calls the ling by the name cobia. It may do you a lot if you do consult a zoologist and request an explanation on how animals are classified.
As you can see the ling of British Isles and surrounding areas, and the cobia (or ling, if you may) found in the tropics are two different species belonging to two different families belonging to two different orders of fishes; however, here the similarity ends. They do belong to the same class of animals, so if you want to classify them as the same fish on that basis, you may also say cobia, ling, kingfish, snapper, barracuda and grouper are all one and the same fish!
You have accused me of not being a gentleman, yet have yourself used most offensive language and even threatened me!
You have called me an idiot and an imbecile... ah, but it gives me great pleasure to advise you I have been tested and verified by your own country's organization, Mensa International to be eligible for their membership as long as I live. I doubt there will ever be a place for you in that elite group!
Hope you will set aside your ego and prove yourself big enough to stand up and accept your mistakes.
Thanks,
Ijlal |
Rich (Ritchie)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 10:53 am: | |
Good call General Parvez (Pervez?!)
Get those Brits in line!!!!
Look forward to your fishing contest so we can outfish them!!
Pls advise when it's happening before the end of the week -I just can't wait to show them a lesson! I just spoke to a bunch of people and they informed me it has to be done quickly, otherwise those Brits will call in reinforcements. So if we have a team b4 the end of the week, we will surely win, otherwise the Brits might get lucky. Whole world against the Brits! Ha! Pls do it quicly though - your message has been widely circulated on the web already, and many say if you can't organise the whole contest by the end of next week, we lose - so pls bear in mind we have to doi this within 7 days to win, or we lose by default! Show those Brits!! |
shahzad (Shaz)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 10:46 am: | |
for stephan,
i read your comments about the cobia & ling.but on your last mail mostly you insult and bad comments about the forum members this forum just you join couple of days back.every one have his own dignity and honour and we respect each other. Every one have his own views and experience, and may be that are differ to others. But the language u use really its shameful. The persons like ijlal, parnab and chua and some devoted anglers. they work hard to make this forum informative and alive write regularly and give information every time regarding fishing.i read your comments and links in detail. even which ijlal sent i also read that and i read also some other links related to cobia and ling.there is a diff. b/w the "name" of the fish and the "species".these are two diff. topics.try to first clarify that from your mind.
we don't need abusing and threats on this forum.because some peoples r really running this with true dedication. by the way the statement u written "I am glad I do not know you as I would most probably get myself into serious trouble"
what is the meaning of this?
no problem if u want to know then where and when u want to meet.
so everyone can write in this way but for god sake behave like a noble human.
we don't want to make this forum polluted with that sort of comments.
salute to all devoted forum members.
regards.
shaz |
Ziad Barhoum (Ziad)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 9:26 am: | |
Parvez, you are sick........ there is something wrong with your head. People like you ruin forums.... Get a life...... |
Stephen Stack (Fishey_friend)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 7:35 am: | |
Why do people always bring an argument around to being a racism assault.
Parvez my friend this is a discussion about the correct or incorrect naming of a fish and not a who has caught a bigger one? In this case the fish in question just happens to be a Cobia or Ling depending in which part of the world you are from.
I don't need to have a competition to show how good an angler I am, as I love my sport whether I am catching or not. |
PARVEZ (General)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 5:41 am: | |
Hi amir ,
I regularly read this forum . This is my first post and its a great idea to have a competetion .
Come on ijlal show the pakis are world beaters . I am sure after that huge cobia picture Stephen and Ian do not know where to hide . I am sure they will never dare to face you in the competetion and will bask in their british glory . They forgot the sun of british empire has gone down . Hence they do not know what to do .
I am glad amir has proposed the competetion now lets see how ian and stephen faces the pak competetion . If they are man enough they will come out of the burrows and prove them selves .
If they do not come out then i will gift them a pair of hydrabadi glass bangles .
By the way ijlal sir how did you get that cobia . Details of line rod bate etc . Let ian and stephen learn something .
Take care matey |
Amir Mufti (Amir)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 1:35 am: | |
Pls ignore any gramatical error in my previous post. |
Amir Mufti (Amir)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 1:34 am: | |
Hi Every one,
I have never got a rude or cold response to my queries from people in the forum and there are alot of people who share their knowledge as well, specially Prabnab, Ijlal, Abdul etc.
Fishing is a sport and in every sport there is competion and every person wants to win.
I guess there is no salt water fishing tournaments / competitions held in UAE. Why not orgainse one.
I do fishing as a pass time excercise and iam no expert but I could help in by helping in organising such an activity.
Let the fishing do the talking. |
PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 12:36 am: | |
Dear Stephen ,
Many thanks for the article on spinning and multipliers . Well first of all i am still learning how to throw and extract max distance out of a multiplier . And i am not ashamed to i got my first multiplier one week back .
I also acknowledge by reading this article on multiplier i have learned one very important thing . I am alway crazy about the distance of the cast and hence had an idea that thinner lines gets less resistance and travels further .
But i was not able to get the puzzle right . When ever i was reading about multiplier users in the uk or in the us they were using thicker lines .
Starting from .30 to .35 which really confused me . But today after reading your article i understood the real reason of back lash .
Me and chua had been trowing the 525 mag and the 7HT and i noticed with a .25 line i had more back lash than .30 . I really could not fathom out what was happening . As although new i was more or less able to cast a multiplier although not as an expert . Now i understand that the on a windy day the air forces the line against the side from where its being thrown and causes slack ness causing back lash as thinner lines easir to be pushed back by air . Because the ground where i fish is mostly rocky area and there are rocks in the sea bed also even if its 150 + . So although i was getting distance i was loosing the fish in the rocks while i was trying to smoothen out the bird nest . Thanks once again stephen for such a lovely article which did enrich my knowledge .
Finally i would like to tell every one on all the forums . We are here to share our knowledge . Not to make some one look small if that person is new to the sport . And normally whats goes on in the forums after an argument or i might call it a debate one party leaves saying i am no more in the forum . I think that is not right . Dont agree on a point . But leaving any of the forums be it this one or the fish emirates one is not a option . Like if i had leaft this form long back because of some remarks , how would i have known about reason for multiplier back lashes .
I dont know but i have seen may be in this sport most of the fisherman tends to prove his superiority over other . I mean why cant it be this way that acknowledge if you dont know .
To me failure are the pillars of success . I did have back lashes in the first few casts . But i have learnt and learning still . Trying to extract maximum of the multiplier .
Well if some one who knows perfect multiplier thowing and says pranab u dont know how to thow a line . I care a damm . I will learn it . I would be more adamant to learn it and show that person i have learnt it .
Hence please none of the members in both the forums should say we wont write any more we are leaving . Lets all stick togather and learn . Lets enrich our selves jointly till the last day of our lives.
Ijlal bhai when i say jointly it includes you . We always dotn have to agree on all the points in fishing . There can be different point of views . After all its rightly said by stephen its for leasure . We dont need tension our of past time .
Stephen to you can i get your cell no pls . Would lv to go for shore fishing next time when you are free .
With regards
pranab
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Stephen Stack (Fishey_friend)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 8:36 pm: | |
hmmmmm ....... http://myfwc.com/marine/FishID/cobia.html .....Note what the word (in brackets) says? ..... Your honour I rest my case!!!!!!!
As they say ..... you learn everyday!!!!
...... but are some people big enough to stand up and say "ok I was wrong" ....... doubtful
Thanks to Ian for finding that page ..... my new found friend and ling supporter ..... I am going to have a cup of tea and bathe in my ENGLISH PRIDE 
Stephen Stack ..... over and out. |
angler14 (Angler14)
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truer words were ne'er spoken .but in truth i think your fairies all. |
Stephen Stack (Fishey_friend)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 2:02 am: | |
Dear Mr. Syed Ijlal Hussain,
I am glad I do not know you as I would most probably get myself into serious trouble. How have you got the nerve to so openly call me liar (in not so many words).
Now I know why I refrained from posting in the first place. Have you ever caught a ling and a cobia? Doubtful on the ling maybe on the cobia. I suppose joining one world fishing organization IGFA ($40 for a year - most probably never renewed) and one country local fishing organization the PGFA (free membership) makes you a expert does it?
Well I hope all the other members of the forum can see that this man is no more an expert on fish than I am on the rock formation of mars (which I know nothing about). How dare you say that the fact I have caught both fish in both hemospheres that I am lying. Mr. Ijlal you are neither a gentleman nor an expert and I for one hope I never meet such a nasty person in my life.
Goodbye you fool. I am sorry but you are an absolute idiot. This forum is being spoilt by people like you and your utter rudeness. Thank you for the personal insult and totally ruining this forum for me (and countless other I bet). Sorry Pranab and you other poor guys who have to put up with an imbocile like Mr. Ijlal. |
Syed Ijlal Hussain (Ijlal)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 3:34 pm: | |
Dear Pranab,
Yes, casting rods and spinning rods are different, just as casting reels are different from spinning reels.
What I was referring to was the different methods of fishing, not the different types of rods and reels used.
All I wanted to make clear was that many people use the term 'casting' to refer to lure casting, which is inaccurate usage of the WORD casting.
As for the phone call, I quote you from your post below: "Now dont get me wrong . I really always try to learn people from you with vaste experience . I remeber you telling me over phone that the fish is controlled by rods not with reels .
Here also i dont undersand . May be my knowledge is poor but what i have read and see people around me they play around with the drag which is a part of the reel . Sticks are only a medium for the cast . I think reels have more contribution in contorlling a fish when a fisherman plays with the drag and gets the fish tired ." Correct me if I am wrong but I remember I was telling you that it is the rod that is used to pull in a fish vs. cranking it in with a reel - not controlling, as you have now written.
Pranab, words do make a difference, in fact they change the meaning of what one is saying. If you are not to understand what I write and not to listen to what I have to say, then advise me what am I to do. Wouldn't the best thing for me to do be not to argue with you and let you write what you want?
I may or may not come to the marina, but have no 'tricks' up my sleeves to teach you. Fishing is not magic. It is a pastime that requires skill, patience and a little luck. I fish for fun, not to prove anything to anyone.
Thanks,
Ijlal |
Syed Ijlal Hussain (Ijlal)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 1:13 pm: | |
Stephen,
I am sorry to say you and your friend Ian are the victims of the well known English pride.
You can continue to believe what you want but for the benefit of those want to believe in scientific truth rather than personal opinions,here are a couple of links:
http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=33
http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=3542
and here is a link to a cobia I once caught...
[IMG]http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z156/Ijlal2/IJ2-2-2.jpg[/IMG]
Hope there are people on this forum with a little of the sense known as common sense and can put an end to this controversy.
Thanks,
Ijlal |
Stephen Stack (Fishey_friend)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 8:30 am: | |
Hi Guys,
I have been coming in here and the fish emirates forum for a while and reading stuff and just thought I would now register and write my 1st post?
I have been reading a lot of posts in here and I am somewhat amused at how easy you guys seem to get offended.
Hey guys take a couple of chill pills and relax. Fishing is supposed to be the most relaxing sport known to man and I know I get relaxed when fishing.
In this everyday mayhem we call living we need to sit and let it all hang out. Some of you guys are going to have a heart attack at the least.
I have been fishing longer than I have been walking? my mum tells me that I was 1 year old when my dad bought me my first rod and reel, 14 months old when I caught my first fish, a gudgeon (a small fresh water loach) whilst sat in my pram, and started walking when I was 16 months old. And that was over 40 years ago. So now I hope nobody takes offence but I would just like to point out the following:
The reason I am writing this post is to do with fish identification as I have noticed there has been some major controversy in here in the last couple of weeks.
Now let me put this in a way as not to offend anybody?
I am originally from England and therefore I am English, Mr. Syed Ijlal Hussain, I believe is from Pakistan therefore a Pakistani, Mr. Pranab I believe is from India and therefore an Indian and Mr. Abdul Latif is from Brunie and therefore a Bruneian. We are all from different parts of the world and may look slightly different due to the colour of our skins, hair, eyes etc. But at the end of the day we are still human beings. Albeit different races.
Now fish are very similar in the fact that they live in all four corners of this world from the coldest waters of the two poles to the warmest waters along the equator. And fish change due to the water conditions in which they live. For instance I noticed that there has been an argument regarding the Cobia/Ling. Now let me tell you I have caught Ling in the coldest waters of the north sea and the around the northern part of the Americas, Alaska etc and what a lovely fish it is too both catch and eat, I have also caught the Cobia in the warmer waters of the Gulf of Mexico, and here in the Middle East and may I say that although they have two different names I can assure you they are both the same fish. The skin of the Ling is slightly darker than that of the Cobia but trust me they are the same fish ..... oh and they taste the same also.
One other thing that I would like to say is regarding the reel argument. So let me put my two pennies in. I will do it the easy way though click on this link http://www.landbigfish.com/articles/default.cfm?ID=1377 read this and it is spot on.
Thanks for reading and once again I hope I didn't upset anyone.
Oh by the way I have a friend who is a water specialist and he says that the report in the 7 days regarding the quality of water in the creek was wrong. He says the situation is worse than that stated and if you are eating fish from the creek then please stop immediately as the water is at almost toxic levels and even fishing there can do you harm by just touching the water.
Take care my friends and maybe I will see you on a breakwater somewhere or out at sea. And as my father always said "Its better to be out catching small ones than sat at home dreaming of catching the big ones" |
PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 6:44 am: | |
Dear ijlal bhai ,
Thanks for your call . Just returned to office . I am right now trying to understand what you are saying . But once again for discussions sake i am also seeing rods are also most divided into three caterogies . SPINNING , CASTING , JIGGING
for example :
New Breakaway Graphite Surf Fishing Casting and Spinning Rods.
LDX HDX models
Very High Quality Long Casting Rods in Spinning and Casting Models
FREE SHIPPING USPS any Breakaway Rod in the USA
Set up a Combo Casting with Daiwa X30SHA and HDX Casting Rod $300.00
Set up a Spinning Combo with Tica GX8000 and HDX Spinning Rod $270.00
Free Shipping Rod/Reel USA Only.
Model Style Length Pcs Designed
for Line Lure PRICE
LDX Spinning 13' 2 LongCast 15-25 3-5 $189.00
LDX Casting 13' 2 LongCast 15-25 3-5 $189.00
HDX Spinning 13' 2 LongCast 20-30 4-8 $229.00
HDX Casting 13' 2 LongCast 20-30 4-8 $229.00
Now dont get me wrong . I really always try to learn people from you with vaste experience . I remeber you telling me over phone that the fish is controlled by rods not with reels .
Here also i dont undersand . May be my knowledge is poor but what i have read and see people around me they play around with the drag which is a part of the reel . Sticks are only a medium for the cast . I think reels have more contribution in contorlling a fish when a fisherman plays with the drag and gets the fish tired .
So my point was reels are made into different categories as per the technique of fishing . so are rods . There aer spinnng rods there are casting rods . If i am not mistaken correct me if i am wrong .
I am not so sure but the name spinning comes because the line spins out of of the reel . The name casting comes because the line does not spin out but goes straight out of the reel from the spindle . Any ways are u coming to marina tomorrow morning . A couple of guys from the forum are coming . I wish you also come and show us some new tricks . Always willing to learn from gurus like you . But by the way i am not a abu fan . They got lousy drags . I prefer 525 penn and daiwa better specially the slosh ones . I know you are a great abu fan . There will be always two famous fights among fishing worlds . Centruy or Zziplex penn or abu . The whole world is divided on this . So why not you and me . But please ijlal bhai i repect your fishing passion never think that i try to belittle your experience . On the contrary i always say some one who sat beside the water for 20 years i can never go near him . So goes same with chua , kit , keyur , abbas and many more whom i dont know even .
And in sea fishing i just dont know anything at all . Its a fact and i accept the reality . The few times i hv been in the sea was because of my good arab friends .
With regards
pranab
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Abdul Latif (Jigwrex)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 3:58 am: | |
Heard that the weather forecast for the next few days is going to be not so favourable.
Just got a call from the operator of the boat which we usually charter to venture out to do some sea fishing in Dubai.
Maybe I'll just tag along with Pranab tomorrow morning.
Oh well......just when the moonphase is at its best for fishing.....the sea is rough!
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Syed Ijlal Hussain (Ijlal)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 3:50 am: | |
Pranab,
Yes, there is no need to fight, this is just a discussion.
After reading what you have written it seems you have misunderstood and mixed up everything. You can disagree as much as you want and even fight but before doing that you have to comprehend what the other person is saying. Do you expect me to say spinning reels, casting or baitcasting reels are all the same? Where have I said that??? All I have been talking about is the fishing term "casting" 'cause that is what Amir wanted to know about.
Please go through my post again slowly.
Thanks,
Ijlal |
PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 1:30 am: | |
Hi guys ,
Any one going fishing this weekednd . I would like to go to marina friday morning . If any one want to go there can join me .
With regards
pranab
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PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 1:18 am: | |
I was reading a reel review on shimono site and then i happen to see ijlal bhais message . I am new in to fishing so i dont have that much depth of knowledge as him .
But this is what shimono says about reels.
Conventional Reels
Select a product CHARTER SPECIAL MOOCHER PLUS SPEEDMASTER TEKOTA TIAGRA TLD TLD II A TLD STAR TORIUM TORSA TORSA SPEED HANDLE TR TRINIDAD TRINIDAD DC TYRNOS TYRNOS HARNESS ACCESSORY HANDLE
Offshore fishing really puts tackle to the test. No matter the opponent, giant bluefin tuna on 130lb, blue marlin on 80lb or sailfish on 16lb we have the conventional reels necessary to land these fish trip after trip.
Low Profile Baitcasting Reels
Select a product CALAIS CALAIS DC CALLISTO CASTAIC Chromica CHRONARCH CHRONARCH MG CITICA Core Coriolis GA CRESTFIRE CRUXIS CURADO
The needs of fisherman are first and foremost in our minds when developing new reels. The new low profile reels we have engineered take into consideration all the feedback we have heard from both bass and inshore fishermen, with the end result being features that help fishermen catch more fish.
Round Baitcasting Reels
Select a product CALCUTTA CALCUTTA TE CALCUTTA TE DC Calcutta TE 400LJV CARDIFF CORVALUS
Round baitcasting reels have been around from the beginning. When the Calcutta was introduced it changed the playing field and we've continued to focus on how to make better round reels that were once just a dream.
Spinning Reels
Select a product AX-FB AX RA AX RB CX RB FX FB FX RB IX SAHARA FB Saros F SEDONA FB SEDONA RB SIDESTAB RE SIENNA FB SLADE FB SOLSTACE FH SOLSTACE RH SONORA FA SPIREX FE SPIREX RE STELLA FA STELLA FB STELLA FD Stradic FI STRADIC MGFA Stradic MgFB Sustain FE SYMETRE FI SYMETRE RI SYNCOPATE FE TX FD
Knowing what feels right in your hand influences your whole fishing experience. Trout fishing streams with an ultra-lite reel, drop shot fishing for bass, or jigging for walleye are that much enjoyable with the right spinning reel. We have spent the time on the water, and we believe we have the perfect reel for you no matter what you're fishing for.
Saltwater Spinning Reels
well there is definite distinction between spinning , baitcasting or multiplier reels also known as conventional this much i can say for sure . Otherwise shimono would call a spinning reels as a spinning caster . This much i had to say so i dont agee on this point on with you ijlal bhai . hehe no fights ok .
The word cast means a throw . But as far as reels are concerned there are definite difference of these clasifications .
Not only shimino if you go to peen site you will see same kind of classifications of reels . So i am sure there is a difference .
with regards
pranab |
PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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some thing new frm daiwa
http://www.fujiyamapeche.com/product_reviews_info.php/products_id/1453 /reviews_id/113
the name of the reel SURF BASIA 45 QD
REGARDS |
PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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hi guys ,
Please check this out if you find it intersting
http://www.skreel.com/gallery.php
A special kind of reel is being marked in canada now have a look .
regards
pranab |
Abdul Latif (Jigwrex)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 12:00 am: | |
Dear Syed Ijlal,
Why should I be ever offended? Like I said before, I am relative new to the fishing arena compared to most of you guys (and ladies perhaps).
I sincerely appreciate all the guidance and assistance rendered. I am trying in everyway possible to enrich myself with all the knowledges to have better understandings of how things are and how they work.
BTW, how did you catch the trevally and what sort of "gears" did you use?
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Syed Ijlal Hussain (Ijlal)
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Dear A. Latif,
I caught the golden trevally on squid bait and it weighed 3.2 Kg exactly. As such, the brothers' fish weighing 3.5 kg is bigger than mine... well, you know we fishermen are the greatest of liars when it comes to fish weight! 
The fish was caught on an 11 ft Penn Spinfisher surf rod rated for 15 - 30 lb line and 3 - 6 oz casting weight; the reel was Shakespeare Sigma 080 2200-CK series spinning reel filled with 20 lb mono.
The fish ended up on my table.
Cheers,
Ijlal |
Syed Ijlal Hussain (Ijlal)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 11:10 pm: | |
Dear Pranab and Abdul Latif,
What you have written is all quite right but I hope you will not take offence if I make a few corrections, say fine tune it a little
Casting, as used in fishing, is the act of throwing your bait a distance from you using a rod. It does not mean throwing and retrieving lures (artificial bait). When you throw a lure some distance, you make a cast, when you wind your reel to retrieve the lure, it is not casting. The complete act of throwing and retrieving a lure to entice fish to bite is called 'Spinning', though many people use the term 'Casting' to refer to spinning.
When spinning is done using plugs (wooden or plastic lures that look like a fish), it is called plugging; when the plug is of a special type that does not dive on retrieve, and makes a lot of commotion on the surface, it is called a popper and spinning with it is called popping.
There is no distinction between a spinning reel, a mutiplier/baitcaster or fly tackle as far as the word casting is concerned; whenever, you throw something using your rod and reel, you make a cast, though techniques vary from one style of fishing to other.
Just my two cents...
Thanks,
Ijlal |
Rich (Ritchie)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 9:53 pm: | |
Hi All!
Catch of the week!
Large sturdy wooden cupboard for all your fishing gear, made of thick plywood, measuring 2.2 m tall and 1.5 m wide and deep, double doors.
Has rodholders and shelves inside. Will accommodate tons of stuff!!
Cost 500 AED in materials alone to build. No reasonable offer refused.
PM me for more details. Please note - is very large and heavy and needs a truck/pick up to transport. Will not fit in (or on!) a car or 4WD!
Will send photo if you're interested.
Drop me a line on rich.peel@gmail.com
Thanks!
Best
R |
PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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Dear amir ,
Yes i have been to creek last night even . Very murky water . I hooked up a cat fish there around 4/5 kgs but released it . In 7 days there is a report about water contamination . Please dotn eat fish frm the creek . I can tell you a few spots along jumeriah . You can try there . By the way what fish did u catch with was your biggest fish . Please let me know
with regards
pranab
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