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Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Post Number: 13
Registered: 9-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 1:48 pm: | |
Friends: There will be a "Groundfish Task Force" meeting tomorrow in Los Alamitos. Steve Moore (Patriot Sportfishing) and I will be driving down for the meeting. We will be hearing about the new "data collection" system that will be used statewide in 2004 known as CRFSS (California Recreational Fisheries Statistics Survey). We are hopeful that this new data system will be better than the old one which was a disaster. We will report back to you later in the week.
The Commission will also be meeting tomorrow and will be voting on "Boat limits" discussed earlier by Harrell Kimball. It is expected to pass the commission without any problems.
Mel. |
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Usefull for time in the hole |
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New product - just in time for gifts to the guys at Guantanimo. |
HARRELL kIMBALL (Catmakai)
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Post Number: 74
Registered: 8-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 12, 2003 - 12:03 pm: | |
Sounds like we may get "Boat Limits" next year which will allow us to keep on fishing until there is a limit for every one on the boat. This would really be great for Salmon because then you could keep all the rods in the water. |
John Carvour (Agent_86)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 12, 2003 - 9:06 am: | |
Might it not be a good idea to be ready with a class action suit for the return of monies owed to all 2004 fishing license holders if they decide during the year to restrict or reduce our right to fish as outlined in the 2004 Regs? |
Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 3:33 pm: | |
thats why there called the DEPT OF FUN AND GAMES |
HARRELL kIMBALL (Catmakai)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 1:56 pm: | |
I only posted it because it was posted on the 10th and I thought something might have changed. When you are dealing with the DFG anything can happen ! |
Darby Neil (Darby)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 10:45 am: | |
I'd be careful about quoting the game wardens about regulations. Unfortunately they are often the last to know. Remember, they work for the same people that tell us an emergency closure after five months is going to allow the fishery to grow so fast in 22 days that we get to fish ten months next year! |
Steve Moore (Steve__patriot)
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Registered: 12-2003
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 10:11 am: | |
Harrel, This problem has been taken care of. That post on Coastside was true for a couple of days last week, but the Governors office stepped in on Thursday during the F&G Commission meeting and cleared the air on their misundrestanding of his order. WE WILL BE FISHING ON JAN. 1ST. END OF STORY. STEVE AT PATRIOT |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Post Number: 12
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 9:46 am: | |
Harrell Kimball & other friends:
Your concern about 2004 regs going into effect on January 1st is appropriate. I expressed this very concern last week to the Commission. Efforts were already being made through Mike Crisman (Head of Natural Resources Dept and a former member of the Commission) to have these regs exempt from Governor's Executive Order. I read a number of articles in different bay area newspapers indicating that the Office of Administrative Law was going to accept these regs for printing and that the 2004 regs will go into effect as planned. In Court on Monday, the Attorney General had a memo from the Governor's office which was admitted into evidence indicating that the Governor's Executive Order did not apply to the proposed 2004 regs. Unless someone is being very deceitful (and that can happen at DFG), I think we will get our 2004 season on time.
Let me turn to a subject that was raised earler about the OY (total harvest/tonnage quota allowed to recreational fishermen in 2004). Someone said that the nearshore groundfish quota is going to be 433 metric tons again ... and that means we may get shut down early ... again! On the surface, this appears correct. However, there are some other issues to consider:
1) We will be allowed to fish in deeper water. Fedderally regulated fish such as red rock cod and others ARE NOT COUNTED in the nearshore quota. So, by letting us fish in deeper waters, we are more likely to catch fish that normally dwell in these deeper waters ... and thereby will get more total catch this year.
2) In Southern California, they will be allowed to keep 1 bocaccio. They are allowed to fish out to 60 fathoms in So. California and it is likely that those fishermen will catch a lot of federally regulated fish ... and usually one bocaccio. None of these fish count toward the 433 metric on nearshore quota. So, with allowing one bocaccio and fishing out to 60 fathoms in Southern California, even more fish will be caught that will NOT COUNT toward the nearshore quota.
3)Here is the real big one! California is using a new fish-catch data system called CRFSS (California Recreational Fisheries Statistics Survey). They will actually be calling fishermen based on party boat lists and fishing license information ... instead of random telephone calls. It is hoped that this data-collection system is more accurate than the notorious MRFSS system which grossly overestimates catch. Most people at DFG tell me that they are quite confident that this data system will be more accurate and will keep us fishng for the whole 10 months.
HERE ARE THE POTENTIAL PROBLEMS FOR 2004:
1) Allowing the So. Cal. guys to fish out to 60 fathoms could be a real problem. They may use up the quota for bocaccio real fast. Remember, the bocaccio is on the "overfished" list and has a low quota. Even though each fisherman can only take ONE bocaccio in his bag limit, it is common that a fisherman might hook 5-10-15 bocaccio in a trip. IF THERE ARE CRFSS OR MRFSS "OBSERVERS" ON BOARD TRIPS WHERE PEOPLE ARE THROWING BACK BOCACCIO BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR ONE-FISH LIMIT, THESE THROWN-BACK FISH ARE COUNTED AS PART OF THE CATCH QUOTA. Now, if the feds (PFMC) decides that the So. Cal. boys have caught too many bocaccio early in the season, that could close us down early ... regardless of whether we have reached the 433 mt harvest limit. I am hopeful that the response (instead of closing us down completely) would be to shrink the So. Cal. fishing area back to 20 fathoms ... and this would cut down on catching bocaccio.
2) Another problem relates to "meshing" the MRFSS and CRFSS data. The harvest limit was based on MRFSS data of the "mean average" catch between 1994-1999. The feds will be complaining to the DFG if it turns out that the catch data during 2004 shows a much lower catch total under CRFSS than what is being accumulated under the MRFSS system. The two systems are going to both be taking place side-by-side during 2004. It would be in the best interest of state-wide fishermen to ONLY ANSWER SURVEY QUESTIONS for CRFSS and refuse to participate in anything involving MRFSS. 2004 may be a year where the DFG is on our side and protecting our fishing rights, but the feds may be the ones trying to shut down our nearshore fishing rights. The feds really have no jurisdiction in nearshore waters ... but they are super-greedy and will take over everything they can get their hands on.
Well, for the next 21 days ... work on your equipment. Get those reels clean and re-greased. Sharpen those hooks. Put together your best swim-baits. Put on new line. We are going to have a fabulous fishing year in 2004.
The CCFCC had a great year. We raised about $60,000. We have been fighting two major lawsuits during the year. One case is still on appeal. These lawsuits have "pressured" the feds and DFG into giving us a much better set of regulations for the 2004 season. We have had our members appearing at Commission Meetings, PFMC Meetings, Scientific Star Panel meetings in Santa Cruz. We have been putting the screws on Commission and Counsel members and squeezing DFG biologists to make sure they are following the law. Two of our directors have actively participated on the MIG panel, which conducted a very successful on-board fishing survey all summer long. We are hopeful that this concept can be exported to other areas of the state. This type of privately-funded data collection system is the only legitimate program on the horizon that might provide meaningful data for DFG upon which they could build reasonable nearshore OY levels.
The CCFCC has a lot of plans for next year. We will have at least 2 and possibly as many as 4 membership fundraisers. We will push for the central coast to be a separate region for purposes of harvest levels and marine management. We will hopefully have some tournaments and other social events. We will try to keep in touch with members by newsletters (we're working on this). Membership cards should go out this month. It will be a good year.
I want to personally thank all of the hard-working members of the CCFCC board of directors: Steve Moore, Darby Neil, Harold Davis, Bob Hather and Mike Stanton. You are all making a difference!
Happy Holidays.
Mel. |
HARRELL kIMBALL (Catmakai)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 7:23 am: | |
Mel: This was posted by Warden Dennis McKiver on the Coastside board
"But, don't rush out and fish beyond 20 fathoms on January 1 without checking the latest regulation update. I just found out that our Governor put a freeze on implementing all new regulations until they can be reviewed by his staff. That mean the 2004 regulations may not go into effect on January 1, 2004 and we may be forced to live with the 2003 regulations. That would mean no rockfishing until July 1, 2004. But, hold your horses, DFG has already asked the governor's office for an exemption to the freeze for the fishing regulations. We're just waiting for a reply. I will keep you posted." |
Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 4:14 pm: | |
If I was ever in trouble ///
YOUR THE MAN MEL, THANK YOU FOR A STELLAR COURT PERFORMANCE,
BLACKIE/ SR |
Roger King (Fishtales)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 10:45 am: | |
Mel-
Thanks for all the work you have done. Don't be too discouraged, the work you and others have done this year has already made next year look better!! |
Darby Neil (Darby)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 8:24 am: | |
Justice will prevail in the end. I am confident of this because of what I see in the health of the fishery and the number of people standing up and fighting for our right to fish.
Things look better for next year, 2004, and the feds will be assessing the canary rockfish again in 2005. (The one driving our closures) From what we are seeing on the ocean I expect the same results they had last year when they reassessed the boccaccio and found them everywhere.
We may not have won this battle but we did take another step towards defending our right to fish. We got an extra couple weeks and much of the reason we have ten months open next year with some out to 180 feet is because of the legal pressure being brought on by our organizations. With the changes in California (Kalifonia) leadership and this kind of pressure, F&G is working harder to do the job they are paid for. As long as we all keep holding their hand to the fire you can be sure they will.
Thanks everyone for your support of CCFCC and thanks again Mel for all your hard work on the case .
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outatsea (Unregistered Guest)
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Mel,
Thankyou for giving it your best shot. You did a great job and all your efforts to fight for our causes are much appreciated.
sharon rowley |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 8:08 pm: | |
Friends:
Well, we gave it our best shot. Judge Martin Tangeman felt that an emergency closure statewide does not qualify as a "regulation" and ruled that this emergency action was not subject to the Governor's Executive Order.
Our other key argument was that Marine Recreational Fisheries Statistics Survey (MRFSS) data is unreliable and should not be used for in-season adjustments. The judge agreed that the data is unreliable, but said that their was no other data that was more reliable. So, MRFSS data qualifies as the "best available scientific data." Anyone associated with the fishing industry knows that this data is complete garbage ... but somehow the judge felt it was good enough to ruin many peoples' Christmas's by closing the fishery for the last 22 days of the year.
I feel dejected about the results and am especially sorry for those who rely on recreational fishermen to make a livelihood like Patriot Sportfishing and Virg's.
I assure you that we gave it our best shot. Thanks to Shaunna Sullivan and Claire Corcoran for your support and help in preparing and presenting this case to the Court.
The CCFCC will continue to fight the good fight for fishing rights. Justice will prevail in the end.
Mel.
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Darby Neil (Darby)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 4:22 pm: | |
Mel can stand before a superior court judge and argue until his opponent is so shook up that they are not quite sure what they are objecting to or how to articulate it clearly but he can't spell the word chance! Just kidding Mel, we knew what you meant. Great job today. Sound strategy and well presented, as usual. On behalf of myself and all recreational fishermen statewide, THANK YOU! |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 3:33 pm: | |
Friends:
Sorry ... I meant to say we have a "chance" to keep fishing the rest of the year. [Spelling error in that last paragraph.]
Mel. |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 3:28 pm: | |
Friends:
Sorry I was not able to keep you up to date on a daily basis from Sacramento. I was snowed under appearing and testifying and also preparing pleadings for our court case this morning and also preparing a brief for the Court of Appeals on our earlier case that is due tomorrow.
Here is a summary:
1. In Sacramento I presented a full color report prepared by Professors Dean Wendt and John Stephens about the summer-long on-board survey done along the central coast with the cooperations of Virg's and Patriot Sportfishing. This was very well received by the Commission and the DFG biologists. The state will never have enough money to fund adequate data collection on the health of the nearshore fishery. It is going to be up to local fishing groups to pay for programs (Like the MIG group survey) to gather reliable data about the health of the nearshore fishery.
2. The COMMISSION voted on Thursday (unanimously) to adopt the 2004 proposed fishing regulations. On the Central coast we will get a 10-fish bag limit of groundfish and two lingcod (24 inch minimum size). We will be allowed to fish for 10 months (Not March and April) in 2004 and will be able to fish out to 30 fathoms in Jan, Feb, Sept, Oct, Nov & December. We will be allowed to fish only out to 20 fathoms in May, June, July and August.
3. Yes, we were initially afraid that the Governor's Executive order was going to cause everything to be put on hold and we would start the year with 2003 regs which made us wait until July 1st to go rockfishing. The attorney for the Commission told everyone at the beginning of the hearings that it could be that the 2004 regs would be put on hold. On Friday, the rumor went around that someone was whispering in the Governor's ear that there was a problem about the 2004 regs. So, a press release came out on Saturday (I think) that the Governor's Executive Order was not going to hold up implementation of the 2004 regulations [GOOD].
4. The total harvest level allowed to recreational fishermen is the same as last year ... but we will be able to catch more fish. It is rather complicated and long discussions with the DFG biologists have me convinced that we will indeed be able to catch more fish. It is complicated and I will explain in a subsequent posting here.
5. The COMMISSION will meet again on December 16 in an emergency meeting to take up a few other items. Boat limits was discussed on Friday when there were only two COMMISSIONERS present. The two COMMISSIONERS present voiced strong support for boat limits that also allow the crew and captain to fish. This means that boat limits will be in effect for both salmon fishing and rockfish angling (everyone gets to keep fishing until everyone on the boat has a limit). This is also a good move by the COMMISSION. I feel confident that this will be approved at the Dec. 16 meeting of the COMMISSION.
And now to the topic of this mornings hearings in front of Judge Tangeman. We slugged it out with the Attorney Generals office for 3 hours this morning and I think we got all of our points across. The judge took the matter under submission and promises to rule sometime this afternoon. We will get the Court's ruling by FAX later today. So, we still have change to keep fishing for the rest of the year. I will post here the results by this evening.
THANK YOU TO ALL THE CONCERNED FISHERMEN AND FISHERWOMEN WHO SHOWED UP AT COURT THIS MORNING TO SUPPORT OUR CAUSE. WE HAD A GOOD TURNOUT!!!
Mel. |
Darby Neil (Darby)
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I am expecting we will see a very interesting post from Mel de la Motte regarding the commission meetings last week. They wanted to prevent our fishing season from opening next year until July 1st! Gov. Arnold had to step in and set the commission strait! Stay tuned. Check also www.rightotfish.com.
Tomorrow, Monday dec.8th, is the continuation of the hearing that kept our fisheries open. It will be at the San Luis Vet's hall starting at 8:30am. Mel will be making arguments to keep the season open for the rest of the year or the next 22 days. Either way we will begin fishing out to 30 fathoms starting new years day. If you are interested, the hearing is probably the best way to hear the kind of garbage data that is being used to justify a totally unnecessary closure. And the States weak arguments for using it. A strong showing from the recreational fishing community shows the court that we think this is important. Hope we see you there.
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HARRELL kIMBALL (Catmakai)
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November 25, 2003
Contacts: Chamois Andersen, Information Officer, (916) 657-4132
Carrie Wilson, Marine Region, (831) 238-2044
California's recreational rockfish fisheries are scheduled to close at midnight, Monday, Dec. 8, the California Department of Fish and Game (DFG) announced Tuesday. The closure is necessary to protect the fish populations and future fishing opportunities.
The closure affects recreational fishing for rockfishes, California scorpionfish (sculpin), and lingcod. The commercial fishery for California sheephead will also close on Dec. 8. These closures will be in effect for all state waters (shore to three miles) along the coast, affects all methods of take, and will last through the remainder of the year
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Tim Mohawk (Tailchaser)
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So is rockfish closed the 8th pending any court changes? Virges is going Monday. I'm confused here. |
HARRELL kIMBALL (Catmakai)
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Please ignore my last post. Tried to upload a file and it didn't work. |
HARRELL kIMBALL (Catmakai)
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HARRELL kIMBALL (Catmakai)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 8:00 am: | |
Randy Fry (RFA), who is also at the DFG commission meeting in Sacramento, posted last night that there will be a press release from the governors office that will clarify executive order 2 and allow the commission to approve the 2004 regs which will include a January opening and fishing to 180 ft. Let's hope it happens that way !! |
Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 7:59 pm: | |
I guess we will all have to write the new GOV and tell him of ouir displeasure , and not buy any licences until we are able to fish, now hat they are forcing us to buy a fresh and salt water , even though some of us never venture into the fresh stuff.
what do we need to do bob? Maybe a big showing at the meting monday at the vets hall in SLO will help.
BLACKIE/SR |
Bob Hather (Windfall)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 2:27 pm: | |
News from the DFG meeting in Sacramento doesn't look good for us. Mel de la Motte called me to say it looks like the Commission plan to ignore the Governor's order to put a six month freeze on all new regulation with respect to the Dec 8th rockcod closure but apply the order with respect to not imposing new regs for 2004, which means that the season will be closed for six months until July just like last year. These idiots appear to be beyond reason. |
Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 8:14 pm: | |
We also went fishing on Fri and Sat , four aboard the Killer B full limits of rockfish, 25 reds to 8# on Fri Five nice lings, Sat boat decided to screw up four miles north of the rock, but we found a rock and limited out on reds and bolinas and one keeper ling lots of shorts, get out and get them while you can. Hope to see a good turn out at the vets hall next Monday at 0830, lets show the judge where we are coming from on the central coast
Tight lines BLACKIE/ SR KILLER Bs |
jimchandler (Unregistered Guest)
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Went out of MB last sunday up to Cambria, good fishing 7 Lingcod 2 keepers with a limit of rock fish.
Thanks Mel. Chandler/onporpoise |
Bob Hather (Windfall)
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Mel de la Motte will be attending the DFG meeting in Sacramento on Dec 3rd. There he will be presenting our collaborative rockcod research. He will also be back in court on Dec 8th to once again fight the fishing closure. There is lots more to do and we need everybody to pitch in for the success of our two up coming fund raisers. We need auction items and help getting the word out for the Jan 17 Avila Yacht Club dinner.
Bob Hather |
Rory Forsythe (Pluto)
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Is there going to be live bait at the port Monday and Tues. |
Joe Dearinger (Masterbaiter)
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Deke has mixed bait for the weekend. |
Pluto (Unregistered Guest)
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Deke,
Are you going to have live bait next week? |
mark/Mistress (Unregistered Guest)
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Don't plan on going out of PSL Friday. No one there to launch boats. Marty will be there only part of the day at the store according to Tami's recording today. Mark/Mistress |
Walter Buehler (Walt)
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Hey Harrell, you burn up that darn reel that you won last year? Or, have you even used it? Wish there was a drawing this year. Maybe there has been and I missed it. haven't been around the site much this year.
Walt |
Walter Buehler (Walt)
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Is anyone actually still catching Albacore? If so, I'll have to get with John Rowley and see if he's going out there. Someone please say so if you know..
Thanks,
Walt |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 3:57 pm: | |
Friends:
The DFG posted a "new" notice of closure today. They intend to close recreational rockfish angling at midnight on December 8, 2003. That means that the judge who is hearing our case on December 8 at 8:30 a.m. in the Vet's Building on Grand Avenue in San Luis Obispo could rule in our favor and keep fishing open for the rest of the year 2003. I invite all of you to appear and support our cause. Open to the public. If we lose, then fishing is closed down from December 8 through December 31st.
Mel. |
Mike (Unregistered Guest)
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Leave it John. Any board you go to he always has something negative to say. Guy is always salty to say the least. |
Bob Hather (Windfall)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 24, 2003 - 9:00 pm: | |
Mark your calenders for CCFCC's Avila Yacht Club dinner fund raiser. Saturday, January 17th door opens at 5:30. Dinner, drinks, and live auction. There is only room for 70 people so RSVP to me by email or phone at my office at 782-6682. Tickets are $100 each. In Febuary there will also be a Morro Bay dinner like last year for 250 guests at $50 ea. You must RSVP at Virg's Morro Bay. Please try to help us sell tickets and collect auction items if you can. I will keep you updated.
Bob Hather
CCFCC |
PLUTO (Unregistered Guest)
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I'M not whining. I caught a 28" Halibut (thousand stairs in shell beach, 45'of water) and a full limit, on the largest Rock fish I hade ever seen. It was FLAT out there. I saw the biggest Ling in my life, but it straightened out my hook(MUSTAD) and I lost it!(I was by myself and could not land it alone).
Thanks Mel. |
JOHN (Unregistered Guest)
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Well Rockcod fisning is still open, So why is'nt anybody fishing? everybody WINED and moand about the feds. shutting down fishing today 3ft.@12sec no wind.. HUMM |
Bob Hather (Windfall)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 7:55 pm: | |
After filling out on reds and lings today near Cambria we ran 20 mi west of the Light House to 35:32 and 121:32 to look for some tuna. We trolled swimbaits on 30# florocarbon at 4 knots for nothing. The water was 58.6 degrees, good color, a few meter marks at 75 feet and quite a few birds.
Bob Hather |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Friends:
I want to keep you up to date on the "closure issue." If the DFG gave "proper notice" tomorrow (11-24-03), the soonest that there could be a closure would be Dec. 4th. I have written a long letter to Sonke Mastrup, the Acting-Director of DFG, imploring him to consider the economic hardship that would be caused by this last-month-of-the-year closure. I have also supplied him with a long list of history and evidence about the inaccuracy of the federal data supporting the closure (called MRFSS data). He responded by e-mail to me yesterday saying that he and his department will carefully consider our evidence and plea. I have been told by some people in Sacramento that Sonke Mastrup might actually be a friend of the fishermen in the DFG.
Next week will be a key time in this battle. I will keep you posted. We need a little "Christmas Cheer" this year for recreational fishermen!!! Don't you agree?
Mel. |
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Thank-you for your hard work Mel. I played hooky on Thursday. My son got out of school at noon and caught a 33 inch ling out of Avila. When we got back to the launch Del had even better news. Thanks to you, your team of attorneys and supporters. When the weather lays down we'll be back out. |
Bill Miller (Fishing_bear)
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God job Mel - now if we can just get the weather to cooperate (down wind - down). Looking forward to some extra days of fishing! |
Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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Thank You Mel and all the others who worked so hard in the sport fishermans behalf, Its a fine day when we the PEOPLE win one , Get out there and catch them now , The long range trips out of Virgs are really paying off , been on the last three, big fish and lots of them.
GONE FISHING Blackie/Sr |
Anonymous
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Breaking news,a judge ruled that there was not enough notice given for the rockfish closure!Fishing is still open untill further notice.Now if the weather would co-operate.Check out the D.F.G.website for the latest. |
shane shelton (Shanehotknot)
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ummmm.........worked,been in mexico to long |
shane shelton (Shanehotknot)
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hats off to mel and all of you who werked so hard on other fishermans behalf! |
Firstmate (Unregistered Guest)
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Thank you Mel and your staff for the long hours and strong fight. Kevin Richie |
Roger King (Fishtales)
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Thanks Mel, and others, for your hard work to save our fishing.
Roger King
member RFA |
DEN (Unregistered Guest)
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WE WENT OUT WEDNESDAY TO THE DONUT AREA, FOUND 61 DEGREE WATER, WE TOOK ON GREAT BAIT FROM DEKE, I WANT TO REPORT, WE SAW JUMPING BLUEFIN BIRDS WORKING UNDER THEM, WE COULDNT GET THEM TO GO BUT THERE IS BLUEFIN OFF AVILLA, DEN |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Fishing Friends:
SWEET VICTORY ... WE FINALLY WON ONE!!!
Watch Steve Moore on KSBY-TV tonight. Judge Martin Tangeman ruled today that the DFG did not follow proper procedures in trying to close down recreational rockfishing. Their notice of the closure was defective. They must start over at square one ...
We get to fish at least until December. Attorneys Shaunna Sullivan, Claire Corcoran and myself worked night and day for the last 4 days getting our legal papers together to fight this battle. I know that all of us were up past midnight working on this project almost every night. I received phone calls at my office yesterday at 4 a.m. in the morning from Shaunna who was still working at her office. I guess she thought I would be down at the office also. Well, it all paid off.
We will have another hearing on December 8 at the Veterans Building in SLO on Grand Avenue. The hearing is at 8:30 a.m. and judge Tangeman will consider other reasons for stopping the proposed fishing closure. That hearing is called an "Order to Show Cause" hearing. The public is invited. It will be another big battle. Our main attack is that the data used to support the closure (Called MRFSS-data) is complete GARBAGE! The DFG and Feds know that it is garbage, but say it is the "best available science". We say that data that is so far off base that it has zero reliability is not worthy of being called "science".
The absolute earliest that the DFG could attempt again to close down rockfishing would be December 1st. I have been told that they will probably not attempt to close down fishing until at least December 8th. I will keep you posted.
So.... for now we get to keep fishing.
It was a great day for the fishing community.
Mel. |
Dustin DesJardins (Farmerd)
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Great news if its true. My kids will be very happy if they know then can go enjoy the ocean in the month of December. Thanks Mel .... no matter what happens.
Dustin |
Michael Hahlbeck (Michael)
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I HEARD FROM HAROLD DAVIS THIS AFTERNOON AND IT IS TRUE, ATLEAST TEMPORARILY. MY HATS OFF TO ALL OF THOSE GUYS FOR THEIR EFFORT. |
HARRELL kIMBALL (Catmakai)
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Waiting for Mel to give us the straight scoop but I heard that the judge ruled that rockfishing will stay open !!!! |
Bob Hather (Windfall)
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I just returned from the MIG meeting in Morro Bay where the results of the collaborative rockfish research study that was co funded by CCFCC and World Wildlife Fund and others was presented by Cal Poly professor Dean Went and Dr John Stephens. The presentation was 1 1/2 hours long. There were charts and graphs that addressed the groundfish by species over the last 15 years. The results clearly showed that after observing over 7000 fish caught from 55 rock cod trips this summer the stock appears little changed. The catch per hour effort, age of the fish, mix, were all relatively the same as over the last 15 years. At the meeting Barry Cohen told me that the Feds have preempted the state and are including the rock cod closure into the federal registry on the 21th. We will be confirming that tomorrow with PFMC. We went rock cod fishing on Sat in front of Cambria and caught 20 nice reds and four lings by 11:30 using fishtraps and light line. Next report may be on sandabs.
Bob |
Bottomfeeder (Unregistered Guest)
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I spoke to Pat at the DFG, Central Coast Region, Fishing License/Regulation (707-944-5521). She said the rockfish closure is effective as of Nov. 21. It has not been moved to the 24th. |
Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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I just found out that virgs is fishing this weekend ? Did I miss somthing , I tried to call the DFG and all I got was a BULLSH-- recording no live person, does anyone know the real scoop?
BLACKIE/SR |
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You know He's right |
JOHN COSTELLO (Taurus)
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albi info??...lol... thats a joke... no numbers reported, not even a report of a line getting wet... this is nothing but pure hype, ...if not to get others to look around, then why?... i don't see any exploratory(fuel burning) trips being scheduled... folks, the season is OVER..i've been out there regular and have not seen any sign of albacore in close to a month ... |
Wild West (Unregistered Guest)
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Hey Darby, thanks for the albie info. Anything more specific on the location - Pt Lopez to Pt Piedres is about a 26nm stretch of water? The 61 deg water looks to be around Piedres but not much beyond towards Lopez.
Bob, Wild West |
Snagger (Unregistered Guest)
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Joe,
What information did you come across that leads you to believe that the closures will commence on 11/24 rather than 11/21?.....Rick |
Joe Dearinger (Masterbaiter)
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Darby is it true we have a new deadline the 24th |
Darby Neil (Darby)
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Another albacore report from a commercial boat fishing 8 miles off the beach between Pt. Piedras Blancas and Pt. Lopez, 300-400 fathoms. All 40-50 pound fish, 60.3 to 61.8 degree water. John Rowley ran through there on the way back from the two day rockcod trip and said he marked them down deep, 20-30 fathoms. f.y.i. |
Joe Dearinger (Masterbaiter)
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Hey Bob Deke is still doing bait, he has a chovy sardine mix..call him on his cell |
Bob Hather (Windfall)
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I just heard from my friends who fished the Rodriges. They caught nothing but did find a big school of breaking fish at 34:04 121:00. They found the fish on their way back in when most of their bait had rolled. I also heard that the live bait is over for the season in Morro Bay and PSL. This I need to confirm. I guess I'll sleep in tomorrow.
Bob |
Stacey Meacham (Stacey)
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Bob,
I'm having trouble e-mailing you do to ospam.com related problems. My friend and I would be interested in helping out with CCFCC rundraising activities. |
Bob Hather (Windfall)
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I'm waiting for a report from some friends fishing for some 100# bluefin spotted 70 mi south of Morro Bay. At the time of this posting (7:46PM) I still can't reach them but if they found them that's where I'm headed tomorrow. I'll post as soon as I hear something.
On the topic of the rock cod closure, CCFCC believes that it is imperative that we file for an injunction. Even though a 40 day closure seems like something we could live with, the reasoning behind the closure, and the procedures leading to its enactment were completely bogus. Next year we could be shut down for as many as 10 months if the same flawed process to determine stock assessments and catch is used again next year. During this next week Mel de la Motte has to respond to DFG’s response to our appeal arguments from CCFCC’s previous suit in addition to filing for an injunction. It’s a large undertaking so we are going to bring in some additional lawyers to help Mel. When all of the briefs are done they will be posted on CCFCC’s website righttofish.com. In January we plan to hold an other fund raiser in Avila and one in Morro Bay in February. There we can tell you exactly how bizarre this whole closure business has been. Email me if you want to help with the fundraisers.
As you may know already CCFCC helped launch a collaborative research study with Cal Poly as overseer to assess the health of rock fish. The study put two Cal Poly biology students on party boats this summer to collect data on rock cod caught and compare the data with similarly collected data by DFG from 1988 to 1998. The DFG never analyzed their own data and they, as are we very interested in the results. On Wed Nov, 19th the results will be presented at the MIG meeting in Morro Bay to be held at the community rec center across from Albertsons. The meeting begins at 3:00 PM and will also be televised and later broadcast on our local station 20 or 21. Early reports sound very positive.
Bob Hather
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glp (Unregistered Guest)
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So has any one even ever been called by the people doing these surveys? how do they select who they call
I caught ten fish total this year blue rock fish |
dave paden (Got2fish)
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Any news about fish in the eddy coming down from the CSM buoy?? Looks good. |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Friends:
The CCFCC board of directors (Steve Moore, Darby Neil, Harold Davis, Bob Hather, Mike Stanton and myself) met last night for almost 3 hours. Our only subject was the upcoming rockfish closure.
Although it is not an accomplished fact, it looks like there will be a lawsuit against DFG seeking an injunction on the closure. We are gathering the evidence and data (something DFG has never done)and putting the pieces of the puzzle together.
The DFG cowardly follows the recommendation of the feds (knowing it is based on "garbage-data") with the excuse that they have to do what the feds recommend, regardless of whether it is justified and regardless of how many citizens it harms. The feds make the recommendation knowing it is based on inaccurate data, but claim it is the "best available data". The feds are controlled on the PFMC by left-wing radicals who are bent on closing down all fishing and hunting in the United States.
Now, there you have it. I will keep you posted on the lawsuit issue.
Mel. |
David (Unregistered Guest)
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Fish&game is giving us all a big Christmas bounus
this year...
We bend over, and they "BONE-US" |
Firstmate (Unregistered Guest)
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Anybody seen any dates for reopen?? |
Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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Hopefully ARNOLD will save our asses, I find it hard to belive that the liberals even belive the Bulls---, but even KSBY reports we are overfishing the ocean on tonights news.For now I guess we just keep fishing till someone says STOP.
Blackie/SR |
Snagger (Unregistered Guest)
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I tell you why the DGF is so gutless in this whole travesty. They have very little capabilities or money for enforcement these days. So they are very happy to endorse a policy that basically keeps everyone bottled up in port or on their trailers.
Remember all their big threats about their new increased hightech enforcement capabilities once the closures went into effect? Just a lot of blustering apparently. That's my 2 cents worth.
Rick |
Dion (Skiffish)
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Above Cape Mendicino there is Eureka(Humbolt Bay), Trinidad and Cresent city. They are active ports when it come to rockfishing, but it's a stretch to think we are that out of balance. If salmon was restricted up there(?) then I could see all the private boaters fishing nothing but rockfish. I hesitate to think 370 metric tons. |
HARRELL kIMBALL (Catmakai)
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We Checked that water in the 30/30 area west of Morro and closer with three boats today for nada.Temp was 60+, pretty clean, lots of birds and some surface bait but no tuna. |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Friends:
I am incorrect. The closure is scheduled to take effect at 12:01 a.m. (one minute after midnight) on November 21st. So the last day to fish is actually November 20th.
I have been emersed into inveestigations and data gathering and making telephone calls to officials all day long trying to uncover where they came up with the data that claims we caught 14 metric tons of canary rockfish. They know the number is TOTALLY BOGUS so they are playing hide-the-ball so far on where the actual data came from.
It turns out that the only data being used is MRFSS data again. This data is so inaccurate that no one gives it any credence. Let me give you a sample of the data for 2003 pubished by this agency. This will blow your mind:
The MRFSS data collection agency has a report for the total tonnage of fish caught in July and August of 2003 (called wave 4) for RECREATIONAL FISHERMEN ONLY between Cape Mendocino and the Oregon Border. Now picture that area on your mind. I think they have 2 ports up there, Fort Bragg and Crescent City. MRFSS claims that in that two month period (July & August) recreational fishermen caught 370 metric tons of fish just in the waters between 60 feet in depth to 120 feet in depth. They claim that inside of 60 feet in depth, recreational fishermen caught only 2 metric tons in that region during those same two months. To put the absurdity of these numbers into perspective, all of the rest of California (that means from Cape Mendocino to the Mexican Border) caught only 281.8 metric tons in July and August of 2003. Can you imagine that these idiots are claiming that those two northern ports caught almost 100 metric tons more fish in July and August than all of the ports from the Mexican Border up to Cape Mendocino.
I know that you think I am kidding you. I am taking this right off the MRFSS data sheet, the same data sheet that shows we caught 14 metric tons of canary rockfish during July and August of this year (which is the claimed reason for shutting down rockfish angling.) This is the SOLE DATA SOURCE THAT WAS USED BY PFMC TO JUSTIFY THEIR RECOMMENDED STATE-WIDE CLOSURE!!!!!
Like I said earlier the extent of the stupidity of the PFMC and the cowardice of the DFG for following along with this recommendation is boundless.
Mel. |
Mike Wilson (Squibblips)
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Mel, does that mean fishing re-opens on January 1st, or is the closure until they decide what's next? Sounds like we need another fundraiser BBQ.... |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Friends:
Yes, what you have read here is correct. They took action on "Veteran's Day" to close us down. The last day to fish will be November 21st. There is not boundary to the cowardice and stupidity of our DFG ...
The CCFCC will be meeting tonight to consider legal action against DFG in the way of an injunction. Different issues here than our earlier lawsuit which is still on appeal.
Will keep you posted.
Mel. |
robb (Unregistered Guest)
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trolled the break up at san simeon today. pretty much stayed on the 35 26 line to the sw. good clean water to 62 lots of birds looking,none at work. we metered no bait or fish. 25 miles from the rock. |
Snagger (Unregistered Guest)
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They are truly Grade "A" wholes. Couldn't they have made it the 24th & at least given everyone one more weekend of fishing? This is sooo depressing. |
HARRELL kIMBALL (Catmakai)
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It is official - rockfishing shut down nov 21 !! according to a DFG press release. |
Darby Neil (Darby)
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I was going to post a review of what happened last week at the PFMC meeting but Bob Fletcher already has it done. Check it out at http://www.sacemup.org/pfmc/pfmc07.htm
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Larry (Admin)
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Mike_wilson, You have some anit-spam cop that is preventing you from receiving the confirmation email. I have deleted your account so you can create a new one
And by the way, there is a new boat for sell, look in the Want Ads, Boat for Sell section. |
Steve (Unregistered Guest)
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LA Times today has Nov. 21st closure in an article in the outdoors section. I have not been able to confirm this yet. Anybody else hear anything? |
bill donovan (Billl72)
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boat us has the best insurance rates by far, check them out at www.boatus.com,then click on to insurance for a quote. |
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Friends:
Still no emergency closure order. Staff counsel for DFG has promised to call me if it happens. DFG has to give at least 10 days notice to all concerned ... so even if it happened today, we would be able to have rockfishing until Nov. 21st. The closer we get to the end of the year, the more preposterous it becomes to everyone to have a clousure. If we can dribble the ball until the Commission meets in Sacramento on December 3-5, then I think they will not go along with the closure (because it would then be on December 13th at the earliest).
Mel. |
HARRELL kIMBALL (Catmakai)
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SST:
Last evening's SST shows very good looking temps (62+) and breaks from inside the Monterey buoy to below the Cape San Martin bouy. Good looking break 35 miles from Morro Bay off San Simeon. This water has a solid connection to the outside and they are still catching albacore off Monterey/HMB. |
Valhalla (Unregistered Guest)
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I would appreciate any info on boat insurance companys. Who has the best rates etc. |
Snagger (Unregistered Guest)
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For Fishin Fool,
Try this:
https://128.160.23.54/products/OFA/epdofa.gif
There are several other free sites available to fisherman that are far better and more currently updated than this site is.....Rick |
FISHIN FOOL (Unregistered Guest)
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THANKS FOR THE INFO Snagger. I TRIED THE
https:// AND DIDNT HAVE ANY LUCK. COULD
YOU PLEASE GIVE ME THE WHOLE ADDRESS.
AND TO MIKE IN DUNLAP, THE DONUT IS
APROX 55 MILES FROM MORRO BAY.
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MIKE in DUNLAP (Unregistered Guest)
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Hi my name is mike and i have noticed a lot of you fishing out to the donut.Is this the only place to cath fish? How far out is the donut and how large is it? Alot of thanks for any information. mike |
Snagger (Unregistered Guest)
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The epdofa is still there. However they have changed the heading of their address. Their new address heading is "https://" rather than "http://". good luck....Rick |
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DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO
epdofa.gif. CANT SEEM TO GET IT ANY
MORE. |
FISHIN FOOL (Unregistered Guest)
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DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE
epdofa.gif WEB SITE. SURE LOVED THOSE
WATER TEMP REPORTS.
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Bob Hather (Windfall)
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My albacore trip on Saturday became aborted when I left the break water and one engine would not deliver full power. So we ran up to Cambria for some great rockfish fishing. The bait was a mix of sardine and anchovie. Last week I was up in Mendicino gathering abalome and I learned they had a great albacore season with the fish coming within two mi of the harbor. Yesterday the game warden checked our fish and told us there is a lot of confusion right now in Sacramento about the regs and closure. From my observation I think both the fish and the recreational fisherman would be better off if we had a first 12 fish limit all year season and no depth limit.
If I can get he boat fixed soon I will be making more albacore runs this year.
Bob |
David Shahrabani (Windstone)
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Registered: 8-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 8:42 am: | |
Hey Windfall!!!!
Bob, I was hoping to hear how you did Saturday. Did you go?
David
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PLUTO (Unregistered Guest)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 5:30 pm: | |
Thank you MEL,
You are feeding my family |
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