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PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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Post Number: 566
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 12:27 am: | |
hi bart ,
Just was talking to ijlal about your catch . He told me you are just 6/8 pound less than the biggest queen fish caught and reported in this region . Its must be big big fight for this queen .
regards |
PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 12:14 am: | |
hi bart ,
Congats . Any pic of the big quinnie . If you have please share . It will really lighten up things . Actuallly when the season fades away because fishermen dont get tht much fish their temper heats up he he . That includes me also .
regards |
Bartosz S (Bart)
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 10-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 12:14 am: | |
Dear Amir,
Thats a tough question!Most people say the fishing season is over by now or latest end of may. Personally though ive had suprisingly good results even at the beginning of july. However as it heats up you are forced to fish further and further off shore (30-40 miles) to get results and the g=heat becomes quiet challenging! This year I think come June ill probably be starting my summer break from fishing. This time will be spent on baot and tackle maintenance which is especially important in these conditions!
This is however just my personal experience and im sure the best thing for you to do is learn from your own experience by going out there and giving it a go! ;) |
PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 12:09 am: | |
Dear kim ,
i did read your 53 post . I never run away from subject . I told you please ignore the posts which you dont agree with me .
Its so simple . But you still carry on your old habbit . I just post my opinion about a product .
Well i am not the person who call a fellow angler CATCHING MINNOWS . And i think i got the write about a product its just a discussion board . Not a freestyle boxing forum .
I think giving a opinion about some thing is fair enough instead of critising fellow fishermen . I never do that . I dont think a fishing forum is some place where people try to talk who is the worst fisherman . Its a melting pot of ideas of different fishermen . Please correct me if i am wrong .
I could have ingonred your post also this time .But i replied as you told me i run away . I never run away . You dont have to listen to my opinions .
You can go ahead and over load your rod with a bigger reel putting more drag and break one after other . Fishing is not only luck as i see it . It requires to understand a little bit of physics . Please dont think this line of mine is to demean your fishing ability . I already congratulated you for the excellent catches in mussandam . You are the most sucessful there .
Here in the forum we discuss about a trips success and also failures . If a failure why did we fail . How can we prevent next failure . Thats why we are talking about rod breaking . And its you only who raised this question . Which i tought is an excellent topic . Because proper fishing gears are not cheap . If we can enrich our knowledge by discussion why not .
And listen mate i dont have any thing against you and udupa . I made that clear in my last post . But its a fact you did not have answer to my questions.No you did not have an answer why you opted shimano instead of v80 and then telling i should not write about that reel.I think the best thing is to wait because one of our friends picked up a V80 . Let the next season come and see its performace in mussandam.I have just given my opinion.I might be totally wrong on my opinion .In that case i will definately change my opinion if the v80 out performs stella . Lets wait and see . I had given a view before your trip in the mussandam about rod breaking . Udupa and you both misunderstood my intention about my report . I kept quite . I even mentioned this to abdul what was my intention . My intention was to see you guys whom i consider my friends to be successful .Now as you have broken a rod its not the time to misunderstand people again . Its the time to discuss what made the rod break .That would be creative discussion. You are reacting as if you are a okuma sales guy and me a shimano . Heck no . You are offtarget this time kim once again .
My only request lets not turn this into a fighting forum . If you dont like my posts just soberly ignore it .
By the way udupa is correct . I should concentrate on fishing more . Thats what all fishermen should do .
I still say i regard udupa and his father as the most leading fishermen in the uae . I call a spade a spade . It do not matter to me if udupa likes me or not . It has got no relation . I would keep on respecting knowlegable people on fishing .
I have the courage to admit what is right and what is wrong . And i fight for it . I would appreciate if we can calm and write what ever we feel as per our wishes . As long as we dont move away from the subject of fishing and start spitting at each other .
After all some one has to stop at the end . I would be left with no choice but to ignore posts as i said to keep the decorum of the forum .
But that would lead to less discussion . Hope i made myself clear .
Happy fishing
regards |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 11:40 pm: | |
Hi Bart,
Good report. Short but providing all neccessary information on the catch.
One question, till which month can one go out for a boat trip in UAE waters.
rgds
amir |
Bartosz S (Bart)
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Post Number: 31
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 11:37 pm: | |
actually it might have been a cd14 magnum!!! sorry for the mistake
bart |
Bartosz S (Bart)
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Post Number: 30
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 11:24 pm: | |
hey decided to post to lighten you guys up a bit. This still feels more like a political forum rather then a fishing forum for me so ill be quick and to the point.
Went out this weekend from fujeirah for what was probably the season finale! To cut a long story short we got 2 kings (3-5 kg) 2 queens (4 & 13kg) and one barracuda (6kg)between 5 and 10am. All on rapala magnum cd 18 and all on very light tackle. Made for a hard work out... especially the big queen which took the better part of 20 mins to land.
Rgds,
Bart |
PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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Post Number: 563
Registered: 2-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 11:18 pm: | |
hi guys ,
I'ZE FACTORY MUGENN 50HD
a limited edition reel worth to have a peek at . a jigging reel with a drag upgrade switch will make it a close competitor of torsa .
The price is really abnormal although . But a friend of mine already getting this in singapore .
http://www.plat.co.jp/shop/catalog/product_info.php?currency=EUR&cPath =21_39_43_810&products_id=4243&osCsid=01ee4636712d3e9d3b055c93006b97ed
Boy this reel got 20 kg drag . If its for real who will pay 1100 euro to be dragged in the deep blue . Certainly not me . With the currents growing more the monsters down in north mussandam are reaching its biggest size waiting at the edge of the ledge waiting to pounce on the prey before the end of the season.
Lets wait and see the performance of this reel .
regards
regards |
adam harvey (Adamh)
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Post Number: 30
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 7:56 am: | |
Guys,
I joined this forum about 4 months ago and it is nice to be able to log in here and see the posts be it about any topic, that is what a forum is for to share views and opinions - fact.
I agree with what pranab wrote, if you do not like his post, then please just simply ignore it. We are all adults with mature minds and a lot of life experience, the way we are carrying on, on this forum in my opinion is quite childish. When i joined the fourm, Pranab was actively posting and then disappeared after there were a lot of negative posts aimed at him and to be quite honest, those of you that have met Pranab i'm sure will agree that he is a genuine person with a PASSION for fishing just like the rest of us. Post's, e-mails, text messages, they can all be mis interepreted, this is technology take it for how you like.
If you turn on any news channel now a days, you will find all kind of wars going on with no real basis behind them other than agenda's of individuals. personally i hate to see this as i believe we should all be able to live in peace and enjoy each others company and ways of life/cultures.
Let us get of this bickering between each other and enjoy the sport of fishing.
Again, if you don't like someone's post, please for the sake of the forum, IGNORE IT and then post something else yourself.
That's my 2 pence worth,
Tight lines to all that are still braving the weather...!!
Adam |
PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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Post Number: 562
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 6:13 am: | |
If a army truck is hooked at the end of your line to see the number plate pls use this
A 30 KGS + girth x girth x forklengthx2.74/100000
B 40KGS + girth x girth x forklengthx2.70/100000
C 50KGS + girth x girth x forklengthx2.60/100000 |
si kim (Eunbitsae)
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Post Number: 57
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 6:09 am: | |
Dear Pranab,
You are still off the subject.
Please read thru my 53rd post again.
My point was "unnecessary display of pedantry"!!!
Udupa made an accurate comments.
Cheers!!! |
PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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Post Number: 561
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 4:47 am: | |
Dear kim,
May i knw what is the subject . I think the subject was about a okuma reel . Some one was buying . I went there to see if i like the reel . I did not like it up to my liking . I did not buy it .
I think you have also gone and had a look at the reel . You did not buy it either . You opted for shimano .
The similarity is both of us did not like the reel . The difference is i told why i did not like it . And you kept quite about it .
Neither you fished with okuma neither did i . But if you want to say okuma and stella are in the same league its up to you . I think okuma have to go ages before they go near shimono gears .
In every forum people talk on positive and negative sides of a tackle . And i think that is quite ok . Nothing wrong with it .
I think i wrote in my last post . If some one dont like some ones comment the best way is to ignore it .
I dont think you have got any sort of right to say i am misleading the forum . If you had thought okuma is better why did you buy shimano . Why not okuma .
Before you guys were preparing for mussandam trip if i remember correctly i bought up this reel discussion as there was a dog fight going on between you and dylan .
And it all started when you said dyln caught very small fish and are claiming it to be big . If i remember correctly i only told both of you should offer olive branch to each other . Which you did eventually .
I always call a spade a spade . If you dont like any of my comments ignore them . I think that is easier . But its a fact i have never made any post here to degrade any one here or for the purpose of misleading any one .
Discussing a reel is quite a normal thing . And i never did question you why you went for a stella instead of a okuma . And i wont change my opinion about stella over okuma based on your comments .
Although i dont own either of them . I just own a penn which i think is good enough . Now coming back to your post on talking technical things on rods .
I think you only wrote in a post that why the rod was boken . I wrote its due to more drag settings . Because normally when you set more drag compared to the capability of the rod it will definately break . This is a universal thing .
I am sure of this fact that the rod that you were using did not have the capabilty of taking 16 kg drag like WV80XH .
I am not telling its your mistake . Because i know for sure the drag was set as per the advice of the skipper of the boat who fish in that area on a regular basis .
But who ever sets the drag if they dont balance the drag along with the drag absorption capability of the rod it will snap for sure .
I know this much ocean active guys uses top of the line rods which must be having more drag absorption capability than your rod . And in a hurry your drag was set with same tune along with the other rods drag ratings .
I know no one believed me when i wrote a post before the trip that rods are being broken out there in mussandam . And people pointed fingers to me when i wrote that telling i am questioning angling ability of fellow members here .
I wrote that because i consider ever member of this forum as fishing buddy and i wanted them to be successful without harming them selves or their gears .
And even now when rod has been broken no one is trying to understand why the rod was broken . Thats why you write in the post there is no use of writing technical details of tackle .
But you fail to understand if you dont want to break rods in future you do have to understand the techniqualities of the tackle .
I would say this once again GT is a big animal to catch . Here its the technique which matters most . Wrong technique will eventually hurt either the angler or the tackle .
Because mussandam has got patchy reef struecture its recommended to go with proper gear both reel and rod wise . To avoid the initial impact of the huge monsters out there drag can be set the the max limit as per the rod can absorbe . Over setting of drag will result in disaster to tackle or to the angler . In fact even if means a little less drag setting . I know it might result giving GT a advantegeous nose anlge .
But once hooked the skipper should use engine power to move away to deeper areas water away frm the shore line which will result in not giving the GT the chance to run to the reef to cut off the line . Another thing when the GT is nearing the boat and when they see the humans they try to make the last dich effort to nose dive creating sudden more pressure on the rod . Most of the time its seen this point the rod snaps . But if the skipper had used his engine power to move away frm the reef by that time drag can be loosend a bit avoiding rod breaking because then the fish is in deep waters away frm the reef . To compensate the loosen drag glove can be also used to put pressure on the line as and when needed .
This is the reason i applauded jean and his son when they caught GT from normal wodden boat . Because in those kind of boats engine power and balance is less compared to ocean actives boat which is a proper fishing boat .
But its beside the point udupa chose to say how much i know him as an angler .
At the end i would like to say both to kim and all others in the forum . My intention from the begening when i started to write here was never to question any ones angling ability . My sole purpose was to gather knowledge as i was a newbie considering to lot of members here who have spent ages beside water .
I felt it was an unique opportunity for me to learn things from this forum . I am grateful to all the anglers who had written here on a permanent basis and kept this forum alive . I am greateful to them because, yes i did learn a lot from this forum .
Eventually i know i have made a few strong remarks to kim and also udu . Both of whom i regard as great fishermen . I would request them to forive me if they can . Because as no member here has got the right to spoil the decorum of this forum , i do not consider myself as an exception .
Happy fishing .
With regards
pranab
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si kim (Eunbitsae)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 3:40 am: | |
Hi all,
This morning I went out to Jumeirah (instead of DEWA) with Abdul, Mohammed and Haji(?).
The weather was fantastic. No wind.. The sea was calm. The only problem was low tide.
We started with casting lures.. poppers, rapala minows, plastic worms, etc. No result at all.
We changed to bottom fishing using prawns and baby octopus as baits. Mohammed and Abdul
got some sheris and sultan Ibrahims, even COMBO!! I got no bites at all and caught nothing,
but reeled in a floating rapala which might have been lost by someone. But I lost it again in
the rocks. It went back to where it came from.. hehehe..
In general, the fishing was not so exciting today. Probably the season is off already.
Cheers! |
si kim (Eunbitsae)
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Post Number: 55
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 3:12 am: | |
Pranab...
You always run off the subject...
Please stop misleading the forum. |
PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 23, 2008 - 11:26 pm: | |
hi guys ,
I think the best way to be attached to this forum is to keep on listening . And ignore people whom you dont agree in your opinion . It then stops all kind of problems .
Thats the reason lot of people althought visit this forum on a regular basis dont write here . Scared they will be skinned to death by others comments .
And yes there are egoists people out here who are not willing to share their knowledge . Not only that they dont like if others talk about sharing knowledge . The reason behind that is quite clear . Because they dont want to stand exposed of not showing others although being very experienced . Respect is always earned when you share and show people how to do things . Not by misleading people .
Yesterday me and ashley were in sharjah and we were catching queen fish . Between both of us we picked up around 20 queen fish . Ashley had a very thin rod build by chua . He hook up rate was faster than mine . When he saw this he came to me handed over his rod and told me pranab please try with this one it will make a difference .
And it really did . This is how you earn respect from fellow anglers . He could have just stood there and proved he is a better angler than me . These small things counts in life . Fighting in the forum with false ego never helps any one .
But unfortunately this is the way the forum runs .
regards
pranab |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 23, 2008 - 9:51 pm: | |
Hi Kim,
Regrets could not make it as I am working on Saturdays.
I am off on Thursdays & Fridays. Do let me know when ever you plan to arrange a boat trip.
thanks
Amir |
si kim (Eunbitsae)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 23, 2008 - 11:20 am: | |
Hi Amir,
I am afraid I can't fish next weekend due to a sceduled biz trip.
But tomorrow (24th May) I am going to DEWA jetties - opposite to Sheraton Jumeira beach hotel - with Abdul early in the morning.
You & Ali (also anybody) can join us, if you want. Give me a buzz.
Cheers! |
Amir Mufti (Amira)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 23, 2008 - 9:47 am: | |
Hi Kim,
Please let me know if you plan to arrange a boat trip next week end as I & Ali are interested in going for boat trip.
rgds
amir |
si kim (Eunbitsae)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 23, 2008 - 7:44 am: | |
Guys..
This is a free forum, but I believe it's not a place to show off your "theoritical" knowledge, especially on fishing gears. If you like something and wanna buy it, just go there and buy it yourself. No need to "announce" here,"I am gonna buy it BECAUSE it is... blablabla...."
You don't need to jusitify yourself. It's your money. Just buy whatever you like, use it yourself and practically experience it, only after then you can tell your opinion on the gear to public. Of course if you don't know what to buy, you can ask for others' opinion. But if somebody gives you an advice, just admit it. Don't say, "No! you're wrong. According to the reviews that I read...." It is natural that everybody has different preference. And the reviews are also very SUBJECTIVE ones, I guess.
Most of the recent controversies that we have had here were caused by the uncertain, unverified, unnecessary display of pedantry. As far as I know.. many experienced anglers don't come to this site any more. Some say that they are egoists who are not willing to share their knowledge. But is it true? Let's think about it deeply...
Cheers!! |
udupa kanadiga (Udupa)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 23, 2008 - 6:42 am: | |
hey abdul
did you weigh those gts??some nice fish there
and pranab you really need to actually go out and catch some fish first.
cheers |
Rami Tamimi (Rtamimi)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 1:47 pm: | |
Pranab,
as for this one I do agree with you. You have all the right to say and do what you want ...after all it's your money and your decision. You don't have to be sorry if you don't like what others like.
Here's my 2 cents about Okuma, Never liked them and never will. this is just how i feel about them....never tried them and will not regardless of the high quality they claim to be.
Viva Daiwa! Advancing the Sport of Fishing |
Abdul Latif (Jigwrex)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 4:09 am: | |
Oh boy.......
Here we go again!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 2:34 am: | |
hi guys ,
Just came to know one of the forum member is upset him about me giving an opinion that i dont like the V 80A okuma .
I think people over here has got childish nature . Its a free forum . People has got the rights to say which one they like which one they dont . I have never tried to put my opinion over others . If i dont want to buy V80A its my decision . I like VS 65SA the lower capacity reel as its lighter . How does it bother other people .
Who stops other people to go ahead and buy it . I have enough times said sorry to others but not this time . I reserve the right to say my own preference . After all no one will gift me a V80A . If i like shimano i like shimano no one is going to change that . Neither do i want to change others views . I hate every time uwanted controversy here . It harms the forum every time . Its quite uncalled for .
regards
pranab |
PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 1:55 am: | |
Just wanted to share about rod breaking issue .
KEYOLHU - 45 degree angle max drag 10 K
60 degree angle max drag 5/7
YAKUSHIMA -
MEIJIN -
ICHIBAN -
TOKARA - ALL OF THEM MAX DRAG 10 K
But as mussandam area is windy and has got trecherous reef structures specially near the shores where its only 10m to 15 m the GT nose dives to cuts the leader in the reef . It is actually difficult to bring them out . So i think although with a drag of 15kg if one plays in the initial hit stage as the impact is huge that time but when it comes near the boat and out of the area of the reef i think then loosening the drag to 10 or 11 might save from breaking the rod . Another thing as nicks boat is a proper fishing boat the skipper can use the boat engine to move awawy frm the reef when the fish is on line which would help the angler in two ways . One it wont give the line slack in case of the fish running towards the boat and diving deep . Second the fish dont get the chance to creat an angle more than 45 degree which might snap the rod .
This is just the personnel opinion . Because i would have done that if i was there . But as i was never there i dont knw what would hv happned because of this decision . I might end up loosing the fish also .
For me the ideal set up would be stella 10000 & tokara rod ideally or the Ajiking which abdul got from brunei .
In the line and leader senerio i would go with short 200lbs mono leader and Tuffline 130 lbs guide choice . I know people might think its too much , but to me when it comes to tackle choice we should have that which i can control without causing any injury to myself . This thing varies from angler to anger . Every one is not super man .
I also think after talking to experienced anglers who visited this area that hollow braid use has got certain advantage over PE line for mussandam GTS .
Hollow braid has got no knots and the line is always at max strength . More over because of windy situations PE lines creates prob where as hollow is functions better .
The only disadvantage of hollow is it looses in distance with PE as it is thinner . But then i think in mussandam its not the distance which matter but its the ressistance of the line the angler is using .
With regards
pranab |
PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 1:12 am: | |
Dear abdul ,
I totally agree with you . But i think if i have to buy a okuma i would go for V 65SA as its have a faster retreive . May be i will ask you to have a look at it when you go there next to brunei .
But i must admit a shimano is a shimano . When i touched your 20000 stella just the feel of it can make you feel the power .
Although i have read very good reviews of V80 . And there are so many satisfied customers around the world .
But its a personal preference for me for 65SA . Its a shade lighter also frm the V80 . And if people are talking of 90 lbs drag . I mean i dont need that much drag of 40 kgs which will pull me down frm the boat if there is a 40 KGS plus GT at the other end . I have spoken with lot of people and every one is of same opinion that a drag of 10 kgs to max 15 KGS is enough for normal fishing . So keeping these things in mind i would like the 65SA instead of VS 80A .
I agree its a very good reel againt value for money but either shimano stella or saltiag diwa are in different league . No question about that . To me i would say this reel is positioned for people with a strict budget looking for deep sea fishing .
It can be a very good reel for graduating to a stella or saltiga in the long run . And by the way thanks for the info on the trun of the handle thing . I really did not knew that .
I never expected it to be as smooth as shimano but at least i thought it can turn at least 5/6 times . The other thing which i noticed in this particular reel is its made in china instead of taiwan . I know okuma have 3 manufacturing base one in taiwan , usa and china . I want you to check out the reels in brunei specially V65SA where is it made of . About the extra handle shaft i did notice they are making same as saltiga with holes just to make it beautiful . But as both of us agree it makes the handle weaker in the process .
I read a review about this reel that it smooth with drag around 30lbs but when it was increased to 35 lbs it gives a few problems . But then at AED 475 much cheaper than the international market rate people wont care about it made in china or false claim of 90 lbs drag . I really did try to find out if there was any mention of the drag max limit . But i could not find it after looking carefully . Okuma have never mentioned it on the box . I heard from dilyan that this claim of 90 lbs thing was being written by a boat captian some where in australia . The conclusion AED 475 5 YRS WAR INTERNATIONAL approx 30 lbs drag good value for money.
regards
pranab |
Abdul Latif (Jigwrex)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 11:31 pm: | |
Pranab,
The number of free turns the handle makes after cranking doesn't indicate its smoothness. You will find that most reels with higher number of bearing to be having less free turns as there are almost nil slacks holding the various shafts and gears. Thus all components can be assembled as tight as possible.
Most reels having less number of bearings will have higher number of free turns as there are "intentional" gaps (slack allowances) which will "artificially" give you the sense of smoothness. If these less bearing reels are put together tightly, the shafts and gears will rub against each other thus will wear out faster causing faster wear and/or failures.
The V65SA is not available in Dubai BUT the slightly larger V80SA was there the last time I went to that shop about a couple of weeks ago.
If you can recall, during our last boat fishing trip, Mohammed was using the V65 (2006 model, non high speed). He was fully satisfied with the reel smoothness under load (with fish at the other end).
The only reason which had caused me to refrain from buying the reel is the comment of a friend of mine in Brunei who is a rod builder and reel repairer/technician. He said that the OKUMA patented elliptical (oval as opposed to round)osciliting gear, although revolutionary will be difficult to repair as the spare is very hard to get hold of. The dual force drag system is quite good compared to those within the same price range. Not to mentioned that ther is also an extra spool. For the V80, V80S and V80SA, the package will also include an extra handle shaft. The handle shaft required for left hand or right hand handle is different. If used wrongly, the cranking will cause the handle to come off/loose.
If I haven't got too many spinning reels already, I would had probably got one myself.
Cheers! |
PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 10:55 pm: | |
Dear ijlal ,
I went to al fajar marine yesterday . I saw the v system there . I did not pick it up . The reason it its gear ratio is 4 5 1 .
I think its too slow for a GT . With a monster of 40 KGS charging at the popper i think it will give the line slack and hence allow the first to nose dive to the patch mussandam reef structure where the water level is really around 10 meters near the mountain edges . It makes it easier for the a GT to nose dive and rub its leader to reef .
There is another reel from okuma which is V65 sa
with gear ration of 5:8:1 i think that is suitable for GT hunt . But that one is not avail able . Besides this when i turned the handle it just took 4 and a half revolution and i found the gear quite tight . May be i am spoiled by the smoothness of shimano and penn .
But i must say the price is very attractive . You can go for it as a deep sea fishing reel if u want to pick it up . For me i have the penn which i think is much ahead of this reel .
with regards
pranab |
Abdul Latif (Jigwrex)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 10:41 pm: | |
Yea.......
As Pranab said........
Kim ROCKS!
Altogether now.......
KIM!
KIM!
KIM!
KIM!
KIM!
Cheers! |
PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 10:11 pm: | |
Dear kim ,
I would love to write on this topic but i would abstain from commenting as per my good friends advice .
Because people would laugh that a person who have not even hunted GT in his life how can he talk on that . So would be a good listener this time around.
Because there was a lot hue and cry when i wrote on this rod and gear issue earlier . At times we fishermen raise our egos so high that we forget to respect the fish . I think the fish always commands respect when they are in water .
But please stop saying that it was a shame to break a rod . As i told you i was well aware of the mussandam senerio and that is the reason i posted earlier rod post . There rod you broke is not a famous rod . But a lot of smiths keyolhu, zenaq have been sacrificed in omani waters .
Lot of people misunderstood me over the rod post and made twisted comments on this forum . They wrote i was trying to question peoples fishing ability .
They were completely off target . I know its not cheap to go for a GT hunt . And my sole purpose to write that post about GT gears was to tell my fishing friends to make aware of the situation .
You guys must have noticed i was talking about shimano FA 10,000 and smith ,carpenter,fisheran rods . I knew these are very expensive gears . Even i my self cant afford them all at a time .
But the point is these kind of fish needs them . Its very easy to make twisted comments after breaking couple of rods and then buying the perfect gear put of pictures of GT without letting other know the background .
But i think people who do that dont want to share their experience for being there first . They just want to mislead people , who are fellow fishermen to go there and come back with disappointment .The purpose of these kind of fisherman who are rich in experience but dont want to share rather then trying to prove i am the best harms the forum .
I liked the way abdul detailed for the first time the gears used and the fish caught . I have seen in the past people here just post their catch pictures without even mentioning how it was done . These pictures can satisfy their self satisfaction but dont help new newbies to the forum . I wanted to stop that and hence wrote my controversial mussandam GT gear post.
This twisted comments on the forum kept me away from writing here . Because i hate misunderstanding among my friends .
With the blistering heat around i think you did make korea proud . I love that comment of abdul kora 2 Oman Nil . Come on cheer up kim its all in the game . Kim rocked on the mussandam trip . Did not you see in one of my post i mentioned of the the last nick boat trip there were 12 hits but only 2 GT hook ups . You were the man of the day he he .
With regards .
pranab |
Abdul Latif (Jigwrex)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 6:41 am: | |
Don't feel bad Kim, its just destined to break...that's all. Even highly expensive rods break during such fights.
As the saying goes "Win some, lose some"
Can't expect to always get a clean break....all the time. One way or the other, there are moments when we had to pay the "extra price".
In fact I was more worried about the rod I (Mohammed and Bryant) was using as the bending curvature was not even compared to that of yours which was almost perfect from tip to the butt joint.
Somehow I felt that it had met its match that particular day.....a highly spirited fighter!
Loosening the drag setting a bit might not cause the rod to snap BUT the bugger will head straight to the reef/rock formations which will cut your line...and you would have lost the bugger eventually.
Look at the bright side pal, at least you managed to hug and kiss the bugger which had broken your rod! So the battles were eventually won by you!....Korea 2, Oman NIL(one baby + one mama GT)...he..he..he..
If you want, will get the Shimano Caranx Kaibutsu "Surface Monster" rated at PE10 max....the next time round!
Cheers! |
si kim (Eunbitsae)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 5:26 am: | |
Hi to all,
I have had a big question since my rod was "shamefully" broken during the fight with the bugger. Pranab pointed out that it was the drag setting which broke the rod. But there is still something that I can't understand. I think the reason is not that simple...
While fishing for the GTs in Mussandam, at least the weight of target fish, reel drag setting, and line were well balanced. The target fish is ranged 40lbs~80lbs. We used 80~86lbs test line. And usually, the drag tension of the reel should be set approx. 35% of the line limit, which is 28 lbs or about 13kg. The skippers preset our reel drag around that range. I don't know the max drag of the Lemax rod I used, but I can check it with other famous popping rods from the web : e.g. Carpenter or Smith popping rods' max drag is 11~12kg. I didn't adjust the reel drag during the fight. Then, only 1~2kg difference between the reel and rod drag broke my rod?
My rod was broken when, after a long fight, the fish was near to the boat and suddenly pulling the line vertically downward (90 deg). The fish might try to head to the reef or rocks as its last attempt to get away. As I mentioned above, all my tackles were balanced perfectly - I mean.. theoritically. But the 13kg drag is for the dead weight, which means some 13kg object should be hung onto the line WITHOUT any movement. Even though I fully understand the combination of reel drag and rod flexibility enhances the critical limits a lot, the "momentary" load to my tackles, when the 30kg+ monster suddenly heads downward, would be much much higher than the "combined" limit. Like when you pull the toilet paper smoothly, the paper rolls out. But when you hold the tip of the roll paper and suddenly snap it down, the paper is cut. Anyway... the line from the reel (which was still set at 13kg) started to be released rapidly. I instinctly pulled up the rod in order not to allow the fish to reach the reef. And.... "SNAP!!!!" The depth around that area was only 25~35 mt. What else could I do? If I leave it as it is, I loose the fish. If I tighten the drag, the rod or reel bursts.
Here come my questions.
1. Was the 13kg reel drag setting wrong? (Should I have loosened the drag?)
2. Was my rod rather weak for GTs? (Maybe.. it's Lemax, not Carpenter, Smith, etc.)
3. When such a big fish as 30~40kg GT suddenly pulls the line vertically down, what should we do?
Somebody who PRACTICALLY know how to react in that case, please answer.. for my next season and also for the forum members who are planning GT hunting.
Cheers!! |
RONALD DSOUZA (Ronald)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 9:00 am: | |
Hi Kim,
Congrats to you and the team. Its nice to see such a wonderful catch of GT’s in our site.
Good Luck and keep it up. Thanks for the pictures.
Hi Abdul Latif- You are right by saying “Good gears and good preparations will yield good result!"
Regards,
Ronald |
Rich (Ritchie)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 5:52 am: | |
Great catch Si Kim/Ashley/Abdul Latif, well done!! I bet you guys slept well that night!!
:-)
We were there 2 weeks ago and had 4 GT hook ups, and put 3 on the boat, best 38kg (est.).
Got a little distracted by the yellow fin tuna, so only spent a few hours after the GTs...!
But great sashimi!!!!
Best
Richie |
si kim (Eunbitsae)
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My Gosh!! I forgot to thank to Mohammed.
Mohammed was the one who opened the "CHAPTER" by the first catch of the day.
Thank you Mohammed also for the photos.
Cheers! |
Abdul Latif (Jigwrex)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 10:59 pm: | |
Morale of the story;
"Good gears and good preparations will yield good result!"
Just can't imagine having to pop for that period with anything heavier than a Stella 20000, the slightly petite of the "mistresses" will be the better choice.
As for braids, PLEASE leave anything (at home)below 80lbs rating.
Shock leaders should be 150-200lbs rated mono.
As for poppers, FORGET about all those fancy, customade, highly expensive ones......the UNBELIEVABLY CHEAP "Halco" poppers are the best "BANG for the buck". Their splashing actions simply outperformed all my poppers (Williamson's jet poppers, GT Technic and even the highly expensive custom made ones!).
My 2piece Ajiking rod had been bonded as I can't take it apart....this is due to the highly extreme pressure which had been exerted on it by those totally "wicked" monsters! Even the top guide need replacing as the guide holder had been badly bent/deformed!
So at least, our (Kim & Myself) purchase of the Stella twins are truly justified.
Just can't wait till the custom-made GTK popping rod to be ready!!!!!!!!
Will plan for another session next season!
Ciao! |
PRANAB (Seaexplorer)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 9:37 pm: | |
Dear kim ,
I would rate this hook up rato very good considering its the month of may . Becuase i heard from other friends who had been in that region had 12/14 hits but could only manage 2 on board . Once again congrats for the good job done
with regards
pranab |
si kim (Eunbitsae)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 7:26 am: | |
Hi Folks,
We really ahd a great time in Mussandam. Thanks to Chua (unfortunately due to an emergency family matter he could not join), Abdul, Ashley, Bryant, Lou and the professional Oceanactive staff.
Here are the phot |
