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Abdul Latif (Jigwrex)
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Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 2:16 am:   

Bart/Syed,

Just to add on the casting rod subject.

Nowadays there are also casting rods with "spiral" guides placement. the first one after the reel will be on top the second one will be at 90degrees offset and then the rest (up to the tip) will be at 180degrees offset.

Advantage, with load (hopefully fish at the other end), there will considerably be much less force trying to trip/topple the setup which is already top heavy.

Syed - You might recall Mohammed using this rod during our last boat trip.

Cheers!
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Syed Ijlal Hussain (Ijlal)
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Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 1:35 am:   

Bart,

Regarding difference between casting and spinning rods, Abdul has already made a few points and Dylan has proven himself an avid student . I will just add a few more. You will notice the number of guides on a conventional, aka casting rod is always more than an equivalent spinning one. For example, consider the Penn rods I was telling you about in the last mail: The spinning version will have 5 to 7 line guides, whereas the casting version I have has 8 or 9. Ever wonder why? The very simple reason is on a conventional, the line travels above the blank; when the blank is bent downwards when you have a fish on or when casting, the line will come into contact with the blank and cause friction leading to both the line and the blank getting abraded. This is the only reason why more line guides are found on casting rods; however it also depends on the blank's action. Fast tapers need more guides, while the slow tapers of conventional trolling rods need only 4 - 6 guides as the rod never bends enough.

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Ijlal
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Dylan (Ichthys)
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Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 1:29 am:   

Good man Ijlal Bhaaaaaaai....you dont cease to amaze me with your "wisdom" regds the "confedence2 thingy bout the rod. And thanks again for the advice on the rod las night. Also i know I can trust you for good advice if ever I break my leg or need an eyepatch or a parrot for my shoulder and making coffee and planting geraniums...
Abdul..thanks for the posting. Didnt know bout the "trigger" on casting reels. Always learning from you guys. Also thanks for the Sea Scorpion..havent done it formally. Its a thing of beauty. Only thing more beautiful is a thong seperated by Heather Grahams butt cheeks...tickle tickle...tickle me wikkle...

K then Bart, the ROD, its available at Sun n Sand Jumeriah and at City Center....NOW ITS A BLOODY RACE BETWEEN US...EEEEEEEEEEHHHEEEEEEEE (evil laugh.

BTW...I drive a beeeeg red ferrari that is amphibious and also has turbo charged rocket engines to do the skies. All that gadgetry only to avoid Salik. Only thing is I've disguised it as a beaten up old Honda Accord. Dont want people to know my secret identity (008..licenced to Gill...wink wink). So I dont think youre gonna stand a chance of beating me to the finsih line.
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Syed Ijlal Hussain (Ijlal)
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Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 1:06 am:   

Hello Bart,

You can check this rod at Barracuda, which should be a great rod for trolling but I doubt it would be much help casting light lures. You will have to go and handle it to get a feel in order to decide. http://www.barracudadubai.com/services/general/shopping/product_detail .php?prodid=137

If casting lures up to 4oz is your primary purpose, then go for a certain Penn rod available in Dubai at a certain outlet. I am not disclosing the ID as Dylan told me about it and asked if he should buy it. Now, that probably was the only piece left so call and check with Dylan; if he does not want it, he should be happy to tell you where to get it. You can easily troll CD18-MAGs with this rod; just make sure you put it in a holder that is 45 degrees to the gunwale rather than perpendicular to it, as this rod does have a light tip action. I have a conventional version of this rod and have caught a 123 lb cobia with it. It has a tremendous action when fighting a fish and lots of lifting power due to a very strong butt. I cannot be 100% sure of the spinning version, but Dollar for Dollar, no rod can ever beat my conventional 15-40 lb version. I just love it!

You can couple either of the above rods with a decent quality 7000 - 9000 size spinning reel such as Okuma V80A, Penn 850SS/950SS or even a Daiwa BG90.

Hope this helps,
Ijlal
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Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 12:41 am:   

Hi Atef ,

Is there any regulation on the use of inflattables i.e. any license requirements etc.

Thanks
Amir
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Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 12:35 am:   

Good fishing Richie...nice King there. If you could post the exact coordinates to get to the spot...assuming we're driving outa dubai along Sheik Zayed road it would be wonderful. Save us the bother of wasting time spinning the driving wheel insted of the fishing reel. Thanks in advance Bro.

Abdul... you horrible horrible person. And u to Adam..you terrible colonialist from the Empire and mole of Austin Powers...you guys are having fun takin the mickey outa me. You have sucked the wind from beneath my wings; you've punched ahole in the sails of my passion; you've dampened my spirit with a fishnet fullof dank seaweed; you have robbed me of my moment in the sun by casting the shadow of your cruel remarks on the glitter in my eyes. Oooo... I'm so sad and sorry. I'm gonna go into the garden and eat worms.
I wanna cry....BWWWAAHHHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH....
Oooooops...wrong sound track....lemme plug the right one into the system
.....BOOOOOHOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO SOB SOB SOB.

Thats more like it and hope it gets me lots of sympathy votes...chuckel chuckle.
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Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 12:31 am:   

Hi Abdul,

Basically I called up Palma Resorts in UAQ. They suggested 5 a.m.

They charge AED 150 per head for 3 hours and AED 50 for each extra hour. Me and Ali are on for it but obviously 4 people are required to bring down the cost per head.
Also, please let me know of any other option forboat fishing.

Actually too eager to go on a boat trip as I have not been on one. Pls do let me know if you have slots available for 2 people on you next trip.

Rgds
Amir
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Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 12:30 am:   

Dylan,

Makes perfect sense! I realised it was down to guide size but didnt put 1 and 1 together to figure out that the reel comes into the equation also!

Thanks,

Bart
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Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 12:26 am:   

Bart,

Spinning rods will usually have much bigger and taller guides as the spinners' spools are at quite a distance away from the reel seats when compared to a casting reel.

Additionally, a casting rod usually have a "trigger" like protrusion so as to enable the rod/reel combo to be held in place without toppling over due to the "top-heavy" characteristic of the casting set up.

And BTW, the spinfisher or most of the SS series reels by PENN are quite robust BUT heavy. Pranab, should be able to give you some comments as he is having a 950SS.

Cheers!
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Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 12:17 am:   

hey boys.. im selling a few (10 nos) inflatable boats. its an intex excursion 5 for 5 people. its very sturdy and really good for fishing. Price is AED 750. its very stable boats. oh if you also want an electric car pump and vaccum its for AED 65. please let me know asap as they are being sold in numbers.... call me on 0505397283 . cheers guys...
atef
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Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 12:16 am:   

Yo Bart mate...it isnt a stupid Q at all. In fact the act of asking questions is the most intelligent thing one can do - coz thats how we learn; not to get philosophical or anything, but the wisest man i he who continues to remain on a steep learning curve.

I myself spent a lifetime without knowing the diff until Syed clarified it for me recently.

To identify the difference between the rods is to look at the size of the guides - spinning rods have large guides and casting rods have smaller ones. The difference between casting and spinning has little to do with the actual action of chucking bait/lure/weight out into the azure drink....Its more to do with certain "mechanics" of the entire process of chucking and retreival.

Spinning reels are "vertically" oriented when mounted (vertical to the plane of the rod when held upright)and hang under the rod. And when chucked the line will go out in concentric circles from the spool. Hence the likelyhood of extra surface area contact if the guides are small - increasing both resistance and friction against the sides of the guides and limiting cast distance. Therefore, spinning rods have larger dia guides.

On the other hand conventional reels (rigged on top of the rod) are "horizontally" mounted and the line dont "spin" but follows a straighter path from the drum. Hence a casting rod will have smaller dia guides.

Both have their plus and minus factors...but heck, what in the world doesnt eh?

For more details, theres a posting by Syed detailing this subject sometime around Feb/March 2008. you gota hit the search button out here and am sure you'll find it.

Anyone have clarification on what I have posted or have any contentions pls free to lemme know. BUT NO ARGUMENTS PLEEEEASE. Lets maintain the deco of the forum.

Happy Casting and Happy Spining or whateva. Now I'm gonna spin my sorry ass to the mall and see I can "BAIT SOMETHIN TO MATE" Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
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Atef Oowais Ali (Atefoowais)
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Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 12:11 am:   

hey boys how are you all doing today??? well my name is Atef O Ali and i am planning to do some fishing in Ajman on friday 06/06/08 afternoon at 3pm. If you boys and girls are interested show up behind the old ajman cultural center that is adjacent to ajman kempinski. ill be there on the rocks... oh those of you who have inflatable boats.. bring it with you... its completely safe....
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Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 12:10 am:   

Went out for boat fishing with Ashley, Ashleys's dad (Charles), Chua, Kim & Mohammed on Friday late afternoon (around 4pm). The boat guy claimed that there will be plenty of big fishes, sort of "you name it, we'll catch it"

We then realised, he didn't even have any particular spot!!!!! He was merely stopping at a spot where there was another boat anchoring and letting the boat drift, saying that its the best way and we'll soon hit the right spot!?!?!??!???

Initially it was quite slow but just before sunset, the fishes started to hit....in big numbers!!!!! My PE2 light casting set bent literally like the letter "n" when having a double hook-up.

The Sherries were up to 2-2.5kgs each. While happy with the size of the sherries, we would like to catch other fishes but all our efforts were in vain. We wanted to catch the Kings, Queens etc. The only other catch we got were the two almost 01kg each baraccudas, caught only by Ashley.....with the Navi 8000 which he just got from me..he..he..he..!

Finished at around 9pm with Sheries of about 30kgs.


Pranab - Glad to hear that you are back to your senses....and sincerely hoping that it will stay that way.

Dylan - Congrats on the good catch and "mabrook" on the new rod. BTW thanks for the lead on the Sun & Sand sale. Picked up a fishing shirt by COLUMBIA. As adam pointed out, if you don't slow down (the shopping at Sun & Sand).....we all might end up shopping at your place instead!..he..he..he..

Bart - Braid does improve casting due to thinner diameter (compared to mono with same weight rating) and also the PTFE coating BUT the down sides are....highly visible, extremely sharp thus need to use gloves and highly expensive. The Berkley Whiplash latest range (improved formula) is one of the best in terms of smoothness of the fibre and thinnest diameter for the weight rating.....Tested, proven and endorsed by us in Mussandam for hauling in GTs upto 35kgs.

Chris e - The Stellas are going to worth every penny spent......as from my own experience with the 20000. Simply silky smooth. The 2008 model of the 8000 Stella comes with round Carbon fibre handle which makes my wallet feels hot!..he..he..he

Rich - Congrats on the good catch!

Amir - From what time till what time? IMHO, AED175 each for only 04hrs is kinda stiff. Irrespective of the total numbers? Need to also get the timings right as the fishes will only start biting once there is some current. Not at high or low tide.

Cheers!
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Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 11:04 pm:   

And one last question...

This will probably sound stupid for most of you BUT: what are the EXACT differences between spinning and casting rods?

I seem to have become a little confused lately ...


Rgds,

Bart
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Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 11:01 pm:   

EVERYONE,

Thank you for the information!!

Chris,

I think your conclsuions about the forum and using the correct gear were spot on!

Ijlal,

I dont plan on casting anything more then 4oz I THINK! But at the same time want the rod to be capable of trolling a CD18 size rapala IF NECESSARY. As far as budget constraints go... feel free to give me some options for a cheaper combo and more expensive ones! Im not sure how much I will be willing to spend, as I always end up spending more then I should whenever im in a tackle store!

Guys what are your opinions or opinions youve heard about the Penn spinfisher ss series reels?

Bart
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Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 10:46 pm:   

Hi Dylan

Thanks for the info! Ill def check it out. Good job at the creek! Suprised with the weather getting hot that you guys are still getting good results! keep it up

Bart
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Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 10:15 pm:   

Hi all
Been v. busy recently, had little time to post, but had a good weekend out fishing out of Dubai around "The World"/Jebel Ali yesterday/day before, a lot of grouper (hamour), with several nice ones of 4kg, taken by trolling 'ye old faithful' rapala red head, but most on bottom-fished shrimp/squid/fishbaits. Rapala red head on the downrigger also accounted for some nice queens of around 4kg just on the drop off on the edge of the Jebel Ali Channel.
Yesterday the kings put in an appearance, I had a nice 12 kg king on a Williamson Ribbon fish soft lure on the downrigger, another smaller one of 3kg hit a silver blue deep diver rapala. Things slowed down after 10am, so switched to a bit of bottom fishing for grouper and had several to 4kg and a flathead.
Sorry, no pics here (tried several times to post but given up!!), there are some on the Fish Emirates forum (http://www.fishemirates.com/).
Have family visiting and then on leave, so that'll be the last of the sea fishing till September here - will spend the summer fly fishing for trout in colder climes!
Best to all, have a good summer
Richie
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Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 3:05 pm:   

Ohooooooooo...Adammmm...you nahsty denizen of the Emmmmpire...beehayyave yhourselfe...you nouuuty nouuuuty boy....

Only sweet thangs now left over at Sun & Sand are the thongs the sales girl was wearing and perhaps the managers MOJO!! eeeeheeeeheeee (evil laugh) But even those aint safe from my perfidious and greedy cotton pickin fingers...nimnimnimnim..

Bout the fishing...cant say much this of town. I know 3 guys who staked the creek out here - 11PM to 7 AM (a whole nighter) and caught NOTHING.

This evening one of them was out with a vengence at bout 9pm when I took my dog out there for his swim. You know obsession - fishing can get nasty when you try to buck the trend and refuse to accept ground realities. My credo is "if the fish dont bite make sure reality does and move on". But often I see guys take it as a personal battle between them and the elements and the sea ... and defy the odds to vindcate themseleves kinda....

It takes the fun outa fishing and some of the guys end up looking like theyre doing battle rather than enjoying the moment - bad tempered and growling.. Funny sight though.

Gimme a call mate. Been on the line with Ijlal (good ole Long John Silver) all the time. Will take him up on the latte very soon.
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Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 10:43 am:   

Yo Dylan....

Is there any gear left at Sun N Sands or did you buy it all....lol..hehehehe

How's life pal?

Met up with Ijlal today for a coffee and showed him my "inherited gear", no need to go to starbucks anymore as this bro makes better lattes that any of those american shops put together....lol hehehehehe

So, anyone out catching any fishy wishies over the weekend or what?

Adam
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Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 9:28 am:   

Dear Amir, sorry, just to clarify, THERE IS DEFINITELY a sale at Sun n Sand. Started 29th and some of the deals are real bargain.

Bart, mate, if you have a definite limit on your budget, like I do, then Sun N Sand is the place to go. Thye do have Penn - slammer and power stick models. And I do the managers at City Center very well and the discounnts are so heavy coz they wanna make room for new stock.
Only thing is they have limited stock of spining rods. If its casting rods you want therre are quite a few. Suggest you make haste.

Ashley, nice talking to you mate and congrats on the Shimano. Im sure you'll have much fun with it. . Look foward to attaching a face to voice soon...although In my case I was beaten with an Ugly Stick (or so they tell me)

I picked up a Penn Pursuit - a nice light one for light shore fishing. Felt very nice. I had to return the Daiwa shore rod I purchased from Carrefour though. It was tooooooo heavy and the handle dia is which is bout 4/5 cms is built for someone with palms the size of a bear. Didnt enjoy it. Exchanged it for a cheap massage machine and will massage the aches frommy palms later. May also do lower back and a little lower too (wink wink) Sure wont hold a candle to a Thai treatment though.
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Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 4:00 am:   

Hey Bart,

Thanks for the reply to my questions. Before I open my mouth and blurt whatever comes out, I would like to know a couple of things more. One is what type of lures do you intend using - I ask this as you cannot cast a 6 oz popper with a rod meant to cast maximum of 4 oz weight without risking breaking off the tip. Secondly, What are your budgetary constraints? Do you intend to keep it as inexpensive as possible or do you want to go for the best?

Thanks,
Ijlal
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Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 2:33 am:   

Hi Guys,

Any 1 interested in going for a boat trip next Saturday 7 Jun 08 from Ummal Quwain.

The estimated cost would be AED 175 per head for a 4 hour trip.

need two more people.

rgds
Amir
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 10:33 pm:   

Hi Bart,

As Dylan mentioned, I think there is a sale in Sun & Sands, so you could get the Penn Slammer from there.

As for BG 60/90, there are available in Deira. If you plan to get the reel give me a call on 050-8553820 and I will guide you to the shop.

I am yet to check out the performance of the Rod & reel from a boat, so cannot advise you on the performance side of the combo, however, both i.e. the rod & reel costs AED 545.

I also have a BG60 and have used is for casting from the shore with a Penn 8ft Pursuit rod. The reel works fine, however, both BG60/90 do wobble when winding in, though I think that the wobbling would not effect the efficiency & effectiveness of fishing itself.

rgds
Amir
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 2:13 pm:   

Correction pls
Berkley line is 1175yds, 1070m for 19 dhs.
My personal opinion is to stock up on this stuff. Jus my personal opinion folks...no debates pls.

Especialy the lures. The reason being: -

1. they dont have limit to shelf life and will not degrade or depreciate in any way...
2. I intend to be alive and fishing for bout 30 years... God Willing.
3. And the prey aint gonna change their habits, viz a viz, the lures they gravitate for the next 30 years - too short a time to mutate (hehehe)
4. The price of lures, as with all other commodities worldwide, isnt gonna go down as per international trade predictions

CONCLUSION: For this price, buy the as many lures you can and stock em. If you dont use em they can make a nice lil bequeathal in your will or can make a nice b'day gift to your friends on the forum.
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 1:17 pm:   

jus got back from Sun n Sand...Rapalla, Yozuri, Storm lures are at....guess what discount...scroll down.....
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50% DISCOUNT!!!!
Now get your butts moving and pick the buggers up while they last...
Picked up red n pearl (standard minows and some charteruse which supposedly are incredible with Barras and some more). Also line...mono..Berkley 31lbs, 36 lbs etc etc etc...1147 M...for just frikkin 19 (ONE NINE)dhirams!!!!! I was like a fat kid in a candy store....
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 10:37 am:   

hi people...
at last something useful and sensible is being said again... I really enjoy reading this forum. On one side, there is lots of valuable information shared...by lots of people. Thank you guys(you know who you are...

On the other hand...[sarcasm on] all the trivial arguments by and about some people are always a good laugh when i get home after a hard day. Thank you as well. thank you[sarcasm off](please don't take this personally anybody, its not meant personally, if i offended anybody sorry)

Anyways...went out on my friends boat... trolled for 4 hours. planned to go out 6am...he arrived at the marina at 8. so i had two hours at the marina to catch up on sleep. He fished his expensive lures and big(80lb) rods and reels and caught: nothing
My abu, 30 LB powerpro and a rapala magnum RH caught: 4 kingfish(small ones, but at least they're here again) released 3, kept one for the pot.

Haha I learnt once again that balancing your outfit and fishing smart pays off. 80lb standup internationals and kona-heads will catch nothing in the uae.


so whats the word on the street?
I'm gonna be gone for a while, escape the heat and yeah and I'll be back in August.

How are the stellas going boys? treating them well? I just ordered an 8000fa..to be used with 50lb braid for popping/jigging... are they worth the $$?
would be my 2nd rod/reel

chris
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Dylan (Ichthys)
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 5:56 am:   

Hi there Bart..if your looking for 30lbs (about 14+kg) line there's good Berkley mono available at Carrefour - just bout Dhs 16 for 300 meters. Which i feel is dirt cheap. And its extra strength with shock resistance and specificaly for Big Game. Pick it up before its gone. Ive tried it at the creek and the creek park and it sings while it flies. 46mm but feels amazingly supple and light. In fact Ive even used it to rig leaders for Nagroor and shams...we caught 9 good ones this morning - around 5 am. Just below the bridge. Me buddy even got a cat bout 4kilos - which is kinda unually robust for this time of the year. also bagged 11 nice crabs on the side - as an afterthought. Could front em as as a soccer team - with their leg work theyd be a formidable bunch...heeheheh

Anybody out there with opinions pls feel free to advise me otherwise.
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Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 10:01 am:   

Super Duper...
Looks like this whole forum has elevated to a new level. Im learning so much with all the exhanges happening with Bart, Rami, Ijlal and others... the whole works. I'm having a great time evesdropping on the tête-à-tête and socking up all the knowledge into the hard drive o mine.
BTW...where can I check this beef stick in Dubai?

And Kim, buddy, you say lets bury the March uncomfortables...duh...what is March??? what uncomfortables??? What were you talking about??? See...Im in deep amnesia already...hehehehe
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Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 8:24 am:   

Bart, You're welcome.
Also, if you're interested in more selections, try cabelas.com. look the for the Bare Foot rods. I have a few of them for heavy trolling with rolling guides and regular guides too. they are solid fiberglass rods. price is under $75 but action is great for the price. they were developed by a charter captain in the NE section of the US. They come in Offshore, Near shore and inshore rods both spinning and casting.
Also, for the reels. if you dont want to spend much money on the GB90.. try the Daiwa Emcast sports. perfect for Braid and Mono as well.... and the drag is 32lb on lockdown drag on the EMS6000. for this reel check with Ijlal as he mentioned he got one and wanted to sell it at one point of time. Maybe he's still interested in selling it. I use this reel on my Surf rods as well my boat rod as well.
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Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 2:39 am:   

Wow im getting alot of good replies!

Thanks Rami. Id prob prefer to buy somethin from a shop here if possible BUT if im not satisfied with whats avialable and prices then I will def look at ordering online!

Looked at the beef stick! definitaly an impressive rod and the combo looks solid! will def take it under consideration.


Regards,

Bart

p.s has no one been fishing lately?!?!
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Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 2:36 am:   

Dylan,

Thanks for the advice !!! Yeh you are right i should have been more specific but as usual Ijlal cleared up any possible questions. (he knows his stuff)

The best reels ive ever owned have been daiwa's (or atleast the most durable and well priced) so i have no reason to disagree with ur opinion! and i will most def look at the possibility of getting two different set ups!

If you can give me your email ill send you the picture of the queen. Richie should be putting it up on fish emirates forum soon aswell.

Rgds,

Bart
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Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 2:30 am:   

Dear Amir,

Im very interested in the setup ... I actually read your previous posts and noticed this is the one you went for.

Can you advise on location? I probably will not buy till end of june mid of july though...

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Bart
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Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 2:27 am:   

Dear Ilal,

Was hoping you would reply!

1- I would actually want a spinning reel.

2 - I want to go after primarily pelagic game fish. Tuna, dolphin, quuen, king . I dont fish GT areas so its not a must, but I do fish areas where big sails and even marlin CAN be hooked up so i think something heavy is in order! (obviosly i understand no spinning reel can handle a big marlin)

3- I intend to cast lures only (and occasionally troll small lures or live bait)

4 - I am a fan of using thinner lines as i think they improve chance of hook up. So 30lb is probably most ill be using.

5- I havent decided yet although briad seems to improve casting distance and lure action (or atleast this is what i think. feel free to correct me.)

Thanks for the reply dude! Look forward to hearing from you soon!

Bart
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Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 8:14 am:   

Dear Dylan,

Didn't we both agree to bury those March uncomfortables under the ground?
Please don't bother yourself by digging them out again, pal.
As you always say.. let's put this crap all behind us.

Cheers!!
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Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 7:58 am:   

Bart,
A strong rod would be Daiwa Beef stick. they have in Spinning, casting and trolling as well. check Basspro.com for more details about it. you can buy it under $50. and you can match it with a BG90 for the spinning rod. It's a heavy setup but for the money ..it's a good combo. I hope this helps.
Thanks
Rami
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Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 5:13 am:   

Pretty spot on Amir...bout the conntroversies etc. And Bart, mate, I did cread your requirements and discuseds it with Syed...coz your requirement is quite the same as mine and about a 100 other people in this region right now.
But rightly, if anyone should advise you it should be firstly a 'question asking session' rather than an 'answer giving session' and I guess Syed has posted some pertinent questions - the anserws to which will determine what gear you may have to go for.
BG 90 is a superb reel - minus the braid element. Which means GT hunting could be hindered. But then how often are you gonna go for GT's? etc etc etc ... you need to make a more focused priority list and in all probability you may have to go for 2 sets of tackles.
Just posting my feedback mate. if it aint of use just put it on iggy mode and forget all bout it.

Have a nice day - both Amir and Bart...
BTW: congrats Bart on the Qeenie you caught buddy. Its a record of sorts. Post the pics if any.
Penn slammer is available in Sun & Sand and the last time I visited there was one BG90 at Marine World - Al Ras.But dont call them and ask specifically for BG90 coz the guy is a bloody shylock and will up the price.
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Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 5:00 am:   

No Kim, I dont agree with you that I am open minded etc etc. In fact I revisited some of my rambling posting in March to you and I was so bloody ASHAMED. I couldnt believe it was me that said all those things. I sounded so bigoted and angry and prejudiced and judgemental...And I cringed like a wet cat and wished I could erase the damn postings from the forum.

But in a way I guess its good I cant coz one needs to see the crap one does in black & white from time to time in order to remain "well grounded". As the saying goes "forgetting is a boon from God" coz it makes room in our conscious mind for new impressions. But sometimes this boon can also be a curse coz we forget the way we hurt people and the insensitive manner in which we behaved. Memory can be sneakly selective and cunning.But the written word doesnt lie.

Hence, I try on an everyday basis to revisit my mistakes and forget achievements so I remain on an upward learning curve - mostly in my relationship with people. We live just once and once is all we have to forge friendships.

My prayer every morning is
"God grant me the Serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
Courage to change the things I can;
and Wisdom to know the difference."

For above all virtues is Wisdom. Often knowledge is mistaken for wisdom. While knowledge is merely a accumulation of data...wisdom concludes with how we assimilate that data and implement it. Raw data by itself is quite futile.

And you have on many occassions responded to my silly tirades with wisdom and patience. If you must know... I have developed a great deal of respect for your sense of "balance" and Chi..."
Ciao for now mate
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Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 3:35 am:   

Hi Bart,

I guess among so many large posts of controversies, people could not notice your post :-).

Any how, the best people to guide you would be Ijlal, Abdul & Pranab.

However,my requirements were exactly the same as yours ( but with budget constraints) and I got some good advice from Ijlal.

I bought a Daiwa BG 90 (AED300) and a Penn Slammer 7 feet (15-30 lb) Rod (AED 245) which could be used for bottoming and trolling from the boat.

The Reels are available in Diera Creek side & the Rods are available at Sun & Sand sports shop.

Do let me know if you are interested in the above setup as i could guide you to the place in Deira for the Reel.

rgds
Amir
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Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 3:28 am:   

Dear Bart,

Please enlighten me over a few questions I have in mind so I may be able to recommend something to you.

1. Am I correct in assuming you are looking for a casting (baitcasting/conventional) and not a spinning setup?

2. What type of fish do you intend going after; does the list include GTs?

3. What do you intend casting with the rod? Please advise lure or sinker and bait weight.

4. What breaking strength line do you intend using with it? 20lb, 30lb, 40lb or more.

5. Do you intend using mono or braid?

I'll be more than happy to help you in selecting a decent combo once you answer the above questions-if my limited knowledge permits so.

Thanks,
Ijlal
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