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Charles Buzzetti (Cbuzzetti)
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Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 5:20 pm:   

I figured that we all knew it would take a day travel each way, but I suppose you are right.

Figure on 12-14 hrs each way for travel from SLO towing a trailer.

I usually try to get to San Diego the night before and stay in a hotel. Cross the border at sunrise and possibly fish the afternoon on Friday. Fish all day Saturday and Sunday. Drive home Monday (takes all day).
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steve mcgill (4baja)
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Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 5:20 pm:   

chuzzetti, this can be a very windy time of year in that area. check for lows and highs in california. once the northwest winds start here it can become a windy SOB down there. if we are getting a low pressure here the winds will calm till the backside comes through then wach out. the salt pines down there dont bend over to the south for no reason.
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Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 5:01 pm:   

Cbuzzetti; You better put a day...day.5 before and after those dates if you want time to fish...good luck
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Timothy Foley (Tree_doc)
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Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 3:08 pm:   

NEWS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Feb. 17, 2009

Contact: Neil Manji, DFG Fisheries Branch Chief, (916) 327-8840
Marija Vojkovich, DFG Representative to the Pacific
Fishery Management Council, (805) 568-1246
DFG Office of Communications, (916) 322-8911

Ocean Salmon Season Setting Process Begins
Estimates of 2008 Sacramento River Fall Chinook Escapement At All Time
Low

Preliminary 2008 salmon data released today indicates a continued and
significant reduction in the return size of Sacramento River fall
Chinook stock. The California Department of Fish and Game (DFG)
estimates that 66,200 Sacramento River fall Chinook adults returned in
2008 - the lowest recorded return since comprehensive monitoring of
Central Valley hatchery and natural escapement began in the 1970s. An
estimated 73 percent of these spawners returned to natural areas.

The salmon stock information was collected early February by DFG and
was forwarded this week to the Pacific Fishery Management Council (PFMC)
to help the council begin its annual ocean salmon season setting
process. The data focuses on the return of both Sacramento River fall
Chinook and Klamath-Trinity River System fall Chinook salmon in 2008.
Preliminary data indicates approximately that 31,000 adult fall Chinook
returned to spawn in Klamath-Trinity River System natural areas during
2008, well below the 2008 management objective of 40,700 required by the
PFMC.

DFG provides extensive information and scientific assistance on
California salmon stocks annually to the PFMC for the evaluation and
setting of ocean salmon seasons. The California Fish and Game Commission
(FGC) uses this information for season-setting as well.

The 2009 ocean salmon season regulatory process includes public and
scientific meetings starting in February and ending in April. The PFMC
Salmon Technical Team is currently meeting in Portland to draft the
â?oPreseason Report I-Stock Abundance Analysis for 2009 Ocean Salmon
Fisheries� and to consider any other estimation or methodology issues
pertinent to the 2009 ocean salmon fisheries. Stock assessments and
ocean salmon seasons are critical to maintaining and meeting
conservation goals.

In 2008, all ocean salmon seasons were closed for the first time in
California history. The closure was enacted to protect Sacramento River
fall Chinook stocks. These stocks are considered a primary driver of
both commercial and recreational salmon fishing off the coast of
California and most of Oregon. The PFMC and the FGC closed all ocean
Chinook salmon fisheries in 2008, south of Cape Falcon, Oregon.

DFG will hold a public salmon information meeting March 3 in Santa Rosa
to present information pertinent to California salmon fisheries and
gather public input regarding the 2009 season.

The PFMC will conduct public hearings to receive comments on three
proposed ocean salmon fishery management options scheduled to be adopted
March 7-13 in Seattle. A PFMC public hearing will be held March 31 at 7
p.m. in Eureka at the Red Lion Hotel. The PFMC and FGC will adopt final
2009 ocean salmon regulations in April. For further information about
the 2009 PFMC salmon management process, work sessions or hearings,
please contact Mr. Chuck Tracy at (503) 820-2280 ext. 415, or toll free
1-866-806-7204.

For further information about salmon, the season-setting process for
California inland waters and the 2008 salmon seasonsâ?T structures,
please go to: http://www.dfg.ca.gov/news/issues/salmon/#01.
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Matt Whitman (Biteson)
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Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 1:57 pm:   

hey all, puchased a new motor had to get outa the 2 stokes... got me a new mercury 4 stroke saltwater model... anyone know of a place that would buy my old outboard? all controlls included.
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Charles Buzzetti (Cbuzzetti)
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Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 1:46 pm:   

Anybody interested in towing down to San Quintin either of the first two weekends of March (7-8 or 14-15).

Fishing has been good down there with Rock Fish and Yellow Tail.

Check out reports on www.bloodydecks.com
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Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 1:27 pm:   

♀♂ Are the live RF allowed to first right now??

♣♠☻╬☼ﻝﻝﻝﭯ&#9 580;ڜ„♦ﻝ
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Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 11:10 am:   

Bass Attack,I live at Naci but haven`t fished this year. That`s about to change. I went to Jim`s pro bass and bought lures. Jim said to use spinner baits with gold blades in shallow stained water. I`ve had good luck with Yamamoto grubs this time of year. Good luck
Capt Dave
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Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 10:40 am:   

Thanks for the travel tips Steve. I'm bringing a 3 piece and a collapsable that fit in my check-in. I'll be sure to put the reels in there too.

Bloodys and Camos packed, I'm sure there's going to be something fishy feeding in the sand. I'm hoping to land a big Snapper or a Pacific Snook.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 9:10 am:   

Big Fatty, take an extra $100.00 to get your poles back home. Ours were okay going, but too long (7') coming home. Same airline, different requirements. Also, I tried to take my reels in carry-on. Worked going, but again couldn't bring them home that way. Apparently, the fishing line was the problem. I guess they feel you could tie someone up with it. Have fun.....
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Mike (Ophiodon)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 8:49 am:   

I was talking to my buddy who works for the CRFS program. Apparently the State isn't paying the bills and the program is going to be either cut or shut down!

No more fish checkers!!!

What will it be like to not have to answer any questions when we get back in???
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Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 8:24 am:   

JOHNNY
Dont forget them BLOODY SAND WORMS , AND TAKE SOME CAMOS TO ,good luck and have a great time
Blackie
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billie e. whitted (Bassattack)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 9:44 pm:   

has anyone been to nacimento, want to go and fish for some bass , any go areas and bait to try
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Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 6:38 pm:   

I'm leaving Friday for Costa Rica! Going to be staying in Playa Grande on the North Pacific Coast. I'm bringing two fishing poles for surf fishing and going to definetly try and get out on a yak. I made two poke-pole ends that I will complete once I get there to fish the giant tidepools while snorkeling. Not going to go out Sailfishing, but maybe an inshore Panga trip is possible.

Wondering if anyone here has any advice for surf fishing down there? I'm thinking it's probably the same way we do it here, except I'm bringing some Kastmasters and Rapalas too.

Pura Vida!
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Dave Pratt (My_three_sons)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 10:35 am:   

Yesterday was one of those rainy ones down here in Santa Barbara, so I spent the day going through every ounce of tackle I own....cleaning, organizing, etc. I have a couple of salmon boxes, loaded with all sorts of goodies...I didn't even need to go through them. I looked at them sadly, wondering if I'll ever get a chance to use that gear ever again in the state I call home.
I remember that '95 season quite well...it was an epic one down here....the fishing was stupid easy, simply off the hook.
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Darby Neil (Darby)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 8:55 am:   

That was just mean! ;)
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Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 2:36 pm:   

1995 SALMON SEASON.I keep a log on every salmon trip and was looking back and thought you all may be interested in this.This is the reports from Port San Luis. Opening day March 4th 55 boats 204 salmon. March 5' 41 boats 189 fish. On April 6th 56 boats 139 fish. April 7th 60 boats and 235 fish. Now it even gets better April 8th 70 boats 290 fish. 4/11 50 boats 190 fish.And it still gets better.4/22 60 boats and 211 fish on 4/23 73 boats and 324 fish on 4/24 60 boats 340 fish. Check this one 4/25 86 boats and 434 Salmon. The week of June 23rd to the 30th saw 1587 Salmon checked in at the launch. These Are just a few of the highlights of an outstanding year of salmon fishing. Santa Barbara was also producing big counts also. Lets hope we get lots of rain this year so the hatcheries will have the water flows they need to support the smolts.
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Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 7:58 am:   

shimano triton beastmaster rod reel combo for sale. rod,br1607rg,6',50/100lb line,reel is30/50 two speed,duel strike drag item is in excellent condition have box reel came in.asking $500.00 john 8019701
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Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2009 - 5:12 pm:   

WILL
Yea sounds like my kind of life style , I am going to get hold of my buddy and see where his property is , and you never know I could end up there.
Nice fish
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Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2009 - 3:16 pm:   

Blackie,
The Big Island is very mellow, the local Hawaiians on the west side are super cool and helpful, not so much down south or over Hilo side. Living can be real cheap; lots of fish and fruit and veges from the street markets and farmer's markets. West side is the leeward side, so it is almost always fishable, with summers being the best. Pretty much like Cabo. Houses are cheap now and gas is about 20 cents more than here. I am totally hooked and plan to spent my future days there in North Kohala. You do not need heating or air conditioning where we have a place and you can swim any day of the year in warm, clear seas. How can a beach bum like me find anything better?
Aloha,
Will
Brad with ulua
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Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2009 - 6:52 am:   

Bassattack; 1 last thing if the light boats are around you can hail them and probably get some squid. very important! and watch out for those roskfish!!
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Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2009 - 6:41 am:   

Bassattack; I lived in Ojai befoe I moved to the central coast. Fished the Islands alot. You should go to Baja Directions . com they have the coolest charts of that area, all areas for that matter. You can put in at Ventura or Channel Islands harbor is closer to Anacapa. I liked to launch at Channel Islands. But the bait was better at Ventura there both way closer than Santa Barbara. I think from Channel Islands to so. end of Anacapa was around 8 mi. When the swells are close together most run for so. end Anacapa then run up the back side way more protection. Anacapa has the warmest water most of the yellowtail fishing happens from cat rock to the so. end. Ive seen the yellows and seabass go off at the same time. Then you run accross the gap to Santa Cruz the areas from the yellow banks so. to sumugglers also is good for seabass and hailibut. but one of my favorite places to fish is chinese harbor drifting the so. end. Its not uncommon to practically drift right on to the beach. To ought to see a sport boat in 10 ft. of water or less. That ought to get you started. Theres so many more places and Santa Cruz is beautifullll. OH YEAH theres a surf spot at Chinese dont drift in to the line up. One last thing in the spring it very windy! So listen to the weather...God Da#*T now i got myself all worked up...Roskfish opens march 1st. Adios
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Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2009 - 4:16 pm:   

does anyone go out of ventura and fish for white sea bass. do you have any areas around the islands to go.. please help.
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Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2009 - 7:47 am:   

Thanks for the info mike , looks like I will have to pay my buddy a visit.
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Posted on Friday, February 13, 2009 - 9:44 pm:   

damn, that sounded bad!
I do not, in any way shape or form have any predisposed animosity to any Hawaiian!

Crap! give me a shovel.
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Posted on Friday, February 13, 2009 - 9:24 pm:   

Heading to Kona in July. First time. Anyone know how to pack a 25' Skippy in luggage?
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Posted on Friday, February 13, 2009 - 6:35 pm:   

Sure Blackie.
But first I want to apologize in advance to all the really nice Hawaiians that I know are there, but it only takes a few bad apples to spoil a barrel so to speak, and heck I can on some levels sympathize with the angst of having your home ground squeezed out from under you.
Still I've been called howli in a derogatory way for no reason at all.
cept for the way I look.
Gives you a better understanding and respect for folks like Martin Luther King if you know what I mean.
Island fever is when (after a period of time that is variable to the person) you come to think you've seen and done just about everything thats available on the islands.
Plane fares to the mainland start sounding real cheap no matter what the price and the thought of cold ocean water becomes appealing.
Lucky for me I never caught it.
Go dammit, You'll love it.
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Posted on Friday, February 13, 2009 - 4:11 pm:   

MIKE
Since your the man in the know , I need some splaning , what is the island fever? and surly hawaians for two ?
I have a buddy that has been on the big island for 40 years , he bought a old plantation on top of the mountain , he has since sold off a lot of it do to the situation he is in , he has been after me for 40 years to come over , is this CLOSE to where you are or what , im not well versed on the islands , but im sure I could be his guest for an extended time if i chose to be , fill me in Caster.
Blackie
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Posted on Friday, February 13, 2009 - 3:36 pm:   

Blackie, You can live in Hawai'i CHEAPER than in San Luis Obispo.

I know, I've owned property there on the North Shore of Oahu.

Food is about the same, medical is way cheaper, transportation costs a lot less, there are some drawbacks, island fever and surly Hawaiians for two.
Go give it a try, but stay at least a month.
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Posted on Friday, February 13, 2009 - 1:13 pm:   

Hey will nice fish!
Where is the beer and the bikini clad bait girl??
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Posted on Friday, February 13, 2009 - 12:03 pm:   

Yea will , but can a retired state employee afford to live there?
Nice fish , keep em comin makin me envious
Blackie
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Posted on Friday, February 13, 2009 - 9:53 am:   

Winter Mahi
Nice Mahi caught out of Kawaihae.
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Posted on Friday, February 13, 2009 - 8:35 am:   

Aloha Bros,
Hawaii is looking better and better. Still no fishing license required. You can fish all year and the water temp. at Kona is currently 78 degrees.
Waikoloa Will
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Posted on Friday, February 13, 2009 - 6:06 am:   

cry baby cry, this is calif. If you want to play you have to pay. At least here the bandits give you notice before they hold you up. You don"t need a gun on the boat to go fishing, the pirates are on the beach and you pay the ransom up front .
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Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 8:55 pm:   

Gene:

It just dawned on me that the entire eastern lobe of the back bay that includes the meanderings of Chorro creek is now a no-take marine reserve. Those rules state that no living marine resources may be taken. I have no idea how steelhead fishing in the "creek" jibes with that. At what point are you out of the "ocean" and into the "creek?" This is one case where you really want to be "up the creek!" Sounds like it's time to ask the wardens on that one.

Eric
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Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 8:43 pm:   

Gene:

Here is what the regs say about where you CAN fish Chorro creek for steelies: "from the point that Chorro creek enters Midway Marina in Morro Bay upstream to the twin bridges on South Bay Blvd." A bit dated but you've been around long enough to know what they are referring to.

As for Coon, NO, it's specifically closed. And remember, the steelhead season in our area is now Dec 1 thru Mar 7, but only on Sat, Sun, Wed, legal holidays, and opening and closing days.

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Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 7:14 pm:   

I would love to PUKE on the govenators desk
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Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 4:22 pm:   

Blackie ,you forgot about the state raising the sales tax 1 percent too ,once they start digging into our pockets they want to see just how deep they are ,pretty soon if it cost's a nickel to shit ,were all gonna hafta puke
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Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 2:01 pm:   

you mean THE COUNTRY
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Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 1:54 pm:   

Maybe we should write letters to the govenor,


Nahh--------
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Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 1:17 pm:   

Boy that will cheer us up Tim , and here is some more bad news , the trib this morning said they are think about an additional 12 cent tax on gas , and the big hit, double the veh reg fees , and I would assume that will cover our boats and camping wheels , this state is just getting unbeliveable , I guess we are just gonna have to have a TEA PARTY.
Itmay be time to LEAVE CALIFORNIA
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Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 11:18 am:   

Wildlife fund loan could cost state millions in federal money.

By Matt Weiser
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Published: Thursday, Feb. 12, 2009


State officials have been warned that California could lose millions in federal funds if they shift revenues out of the Department of Fish and Game to ease the state budget crisis.

The Schwarzenegger administration has proposed borrowing $30 million from the Fish and Game Preservation Fund, which comes from hunting and fishing license fees, as one of many measures to balance a huge state budget deficit. The money would be paid back to the fund by 2013, with interest.

That money is supposed to be used for wildlife and law enforcement programs at the Department of Fish and Game, not the state general fund.

In a Jan. 27 letter to the state, the regional director of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service said California could lose another $30 million in federal matching funds for wildlife programs if such a loan takes place.

"We are deeply concerned about any proposal to remove hunting and fishing license revenues from the Department of Fish and Game Preservation Fund," Ren Lohoefener wrote in the letter, which was triggered by The Bee's Jan. 17 story on the issue.

Lohoefener's letter was addressed to California Department of Fish and Game Director Don Koch.

He explained that California's ability to receive federal wildlife matching funds depends on honoring legal agreements between the two agencies. Those agreements forbid using state and federal hunting and fishing license money for non-wildlife expenses.

H.D. Palmer, deputy director of the state Department of Finance, said the administration has not yet responded to the letter and hopes to discuss it with the Fish and Wildlife Service.

He said the administration believes that because the money would be paid back and because it is claimed to have no immediate impact on Fish and Game programs, it would not violate the legal agreements.

"It's not a diminution of any program, and that's why we want to talk to the Fish and Wildlife Service," Palmer said.

The money is a relatively small sum compared with the state's overall deficit, about $40 billion by June 2010 without major revenue and spending fixes.

Yet it's a lot of money for state wildlife programs, which have suffered regular program cuts for many years.

The subject came up at last week's meeting in Sacramento of the Fish and Game Commission, a panel appointed by the governor.

Game wardens, who number just 200 in the field for the entire state, were not given the same exemption to furloughs that the governor granted to California Highway Patrol officers.

The commission called this unacceptable and voted to write a letter to the governor urging him to exempt wardens from furloughs.

"We desperately need to protect our wild environment and our critters out there, and I would be very disappointed if our wardens were cut in any way," said Commissioner Richard Rogers of Carpinteria.

The commission also took steps to trim its own expenses.

Monthly meetings normally rotate around the state so people in different regions can attend. The two-day meetings normally occur on Thursday and Friday.

This year, the commission will meet on Wednesday and Thursday to avoid conflict with state employee furloughs. And all its meetings will be held in the Sacramento region.

It estimates these changes will save the state $50,000 to $100,000 this year.


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Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 8:55 am:   

If you all are bored I have found a short video that might peak you interest. It is the ultimate LFT search vehicle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0snTqLQLpBA
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Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 8:36 am:   

Is there any indication we shouldn't be bored? Are you living on the same planet that I am? Do you ever think that boredom might be the reasonable human response to the crap we're going through as a species, meant to propel us into the next evolutionary step or, at least, into taking some different course of action, so that we might survive as fisherman ? Do you ever think that maybe it's the happy PETA people that are really screwed up in the head?
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Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 7:59 am:   

YEA
I think its time to go fishing, you guy are BORED
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 10:15 pm:   

Unless, of course, you are a King.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 10:14 pm:   

You left out;

"Possession of Lemons and/or Sourdough Bread during the take of Steelhead will be punishable by no less than one night in the local jail."
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 9:37 pm:   

LMFAO @ rad 21
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 6:02 pm:   

rafael your killing me!!!
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 5:08 pm:   

You can catch as many as you can eat at one sitting, as long as you are somewhere west of Hwy 1 and east of the northwest boundry of the southwest southern hemisphere and not under any bridge, or near any bridge near the city of San Luis Obispo. The only exception is sitting on the west side of a restuarant over looking the Creek but only on Monday, Wednesday and Friday of every other leap year using of course plastic or barbless forks and knives. All ingested or partially ingested salmonoids will then be "released" through the SLO sewer system , which will eventually end up back in the said creek and back out to the ocean.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 3:21 pm:   

You got to have a law degree to fish for chromeheads , perch are eaiser .
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 10:13 am:   

The law states, " that portion of any stream west of any HWY 1 bridge".
There is also an enclusion of any anadromous waters, which would include any stream with native salmonoids.( not fishable)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 9:57 am:   

Question, Is Chorro creek open, west of the road? How about Coon creek?.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 10:32 am:   

I cringed too when I saw that post. I don't believe in secrets, but with our local steelhead we do need to be careful. Even though it is barbless, catch and release fishing, there is still about a 10% mortality rate...even with flyfishing! Please be respectful of any fish you catch by fighting it quickly and leaving it in the water while you carefully remove the hook. You should also use smaller hooks (< size #6 or so), because those have better chance of hooking the fish in the lip/jaw and not the gill arches. A bleeding trout pretty much has 100% mortality!
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Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 10:08 am:   

We have two legal holidays this month.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 8:44 am:   

Never mind I just found it.
District General Regulations
Area or Body of Water Open Season Bag Limit
(3) All streams except anadromous waters and those
listed by name in the Special Regulations.
All year. 5
(e) South Central District
(1) All lakes and reservoirs except those listed by
name in the Special Regulations.
All year. 5
(2) That portion of any stream west of any Highway
1 bridge except those listed by name in the Special
Regulations.
Dec. 1 through Mar. 7, but only on Sat.,
Sun., Wed., legal holidays and opening
and closing days. Only barbless hooks
may be used.
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(3) All streams in Alameda, Contra Costa, and Santa
Clara Counties except those listed by name in the
Special Regulations.
Last Saturday in Apr. through Nov. 15. 5
(4) All other streams and portions of streams except
those listed in subsection (e)(2) above or by name in
the Special Regulations.
Closed to all fishing all year.
(f) Southern District
(1) All lakes and reservoirs except those listed by
name in the Special Regulations.
All year. 5
(2) All streams except anadromous waters in San
Diego County, and except those listed by name in the
Special Regulations.
All year. Only artificial lures with barbless
hooks may be used.
2
(3) All streams except anadromous waters in Los
Angeles, Ventura, Santa Barbara, Orange, San
Bernardino and Riverside Counties, and except those
listed by name in the Special Regulations.
All year. 5
(4) All anadromous waters except those listed by
name in the Special Regulations (See definition of
anadromous waters, Section 1.04)
Closed to all fishing all year
(5) All streams and tributaries (except those listed
by name in the Special Regulations) above Twitchell
Dam on the Cuyama River, above Bradbury Dam and
below Gibraltar Dam on the Santa Ynez River; above
Matilja Dam on Matilija Creek and above Wheeler
Gorge Campground on NF Matilija Creek; and above
Rindge Dam on Malibu Creek.
All year 5
(g) Colorado River District
(1) The Colorado River and its back waters All year. 10
(2) All other waters All year. 5
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Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 8:09 am:   

We used to catch nice steelhead at San Carpoforo, Pico, Little Pico,De La Cruz and other creeks back in the early 80s. I thought it became illegal once they became " endangered"
Does anyone know where in the DFG 2009 rules it states that you can catch and release steelhead??
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Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 6:19 am:   

jef, i guess you dont like to fish alone! lets call in the parking lot.
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Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 7:26 pm:   

Fellow flyfisherman and other interested parties...The last jug of rain brought a bunch of native winter run steelhead into Arroyo De La Cruz, and Carpoforo creeks....One of my longtime SoCal flyfishing buddies released 5 "chromers" on Sunday.He used weighted flies below an "indicator" (ie bobber),from several of our favorite holes....It is barbless single hook,catch and release only fishery,but for pure excitement it beats the heck out of sand dab fishing....Note other DFG rules and restrictions BEFORE you wet a line,and remember that you need to have a DFG salmon/steelhead report card in possession along with your license..You can probably guess where I will be on Saturday morning....jeff
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Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 4:30 pm:   

2008 Ocean Conditions for Fish Among Best in Half-Century
NEWPORT, Ore. Ocean conditions during 2008 for many fish species in the Pacific Northwest, including chinook salmon, were greatly improved because of a huge cold water influx that settled in across much of the northern Pacific Ocean a phenomenon not seen on this scale in years.

In fact, scientists who surveyed near-shore waters from Newport, Ore., to LaPush, Wash., this year found the highest numbers of juvenile chinook salmon theyve encountered in 11 years of sampling.

The reason may be traced to the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, a pattern of climate variability that historically has shifted between warm (positive) and cool (negative) regimes over cycles of 20 to 30 years. During 2008, the PDO was the most negative it has been since 1955, according to Bill Peterson, a NOAA fisheries biologist at Oregon State Universitys Hatfield Marine Science Center.

We usually see cold water conditions for a few months once upwelling begins in late spring and early summer,said Peterson, who has a courtesy appointment in OSUs College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences. Since April of 2007, though, we've been in a constant summer-stateocean condition, which is something weve never seen in more than 20 years of sampling. And were not sure why.

Strong, continual upwelling has fueled phytoplankton growth that forms the basis of the marine food web. Cold water has drawn a huge biomass of northern copepods from the Gulf of Alaska, and these zooplankton species have high fat reserves that provide a rich diet for anchovies, herring and other baitfish, which in turn become prey for salmon, ling cod and other creatures.

The ocean is thick with these large copepods, which accumulate fat as a way to survive the winter,Peterson said. When the Pacific Decadal Oscillation is in a positive phase and warmer water moves into the coast from offshore and the south, the copepods we see are species that are smaller and dont retain lipids.

Peterson said anecdotal evidence from other researchers at OSUs Hatfield Marine Science Center suggests that recruitment for juvenile ling cod and other rockfish was extraordinary in 2008. Seabirds, including pelicans and a large murre colony at Yaquina Head, were healthy and well-fed. And there was a large population of sand lances a small baitfish that feeds on copepods.

If there is a downside, Peterson says, it is that the survey didn't find as many juvenile coho salmon in 2008 as the scientists had hoped. The number of juvenile chinook, on the other hand, was 2.4 times higher than any other survey recorded in the past 13 years, Peterson said. The scientists used an array of nets in their survey, including a trawling net as tall as a five-story building and as wide as half a football field.

Though 2008 has been a banner year for ocean conditions and many fish species it is too early to know what the future holds for ocean conditions or fish runs. The Pacific Decadal Oscillation has been shifting more rapidly between warm and cool phases, possibly in response to climate change. A positive phase, characterized by warm, less-salty water, occurred from 1925 to 1947, followed by a negative phase of cooler, saltier water from 1948 to 1976. Then another positive phase took over and lasted through the powerful El Nino of 1998.

Since then, however, the regimes have been much shorter. The PDO was negative from 1999 to 2002, positive from 2003 to 2006, then abruptly shifted to cooler waters during the last two years. Will this latest cold-water regime last two years or two decades?

"That's the million dollar question",Peterson said.

Peterson and his colleagues have received a grant from NASA to track the source of the cold water to see if it has circulated from the Gulf of Alaska through an advection process, or is the result of a different upwelling pattern, bringing deep water to the surface. However, sea surface temperatures havent dropped as much as temperatures lower in the water column.

Temperatures recorded this year at a sampling station five miles west of Newport, at a depth of 50 meters, were the coldest in the 13 years theyve been measured. This suggests to Peterson that the ocean is becoming more stratified, which is consistent with climate change models. Those same models also suggest more annual variability in ocean conditions.

The year 2005 was one of the worst in history, as delayed upwelling caused a food shortage that led, among other things, to the collapse of the Sacramento River chinook salmon run,Peterson said. In contrast, 2008 has been one of the best years on record and though its a generality, cold water usually means good things for salmon.

We just dont know how long this is going to last.


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Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 4:28 pm:   

I would not be too hopeful on a salmon season this year the returns to the hatcheries was again terrible in 08. One positive item though is the ocean conditions for baitfish has improved considerably due to upwelling of cold water that triggers the food chain.
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Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 8:32 am:   

Not a rumor Jeff. Was mentioned a yr ago when last season was cancelled
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Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 9:55 pm:   

YEP I believe so
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Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 8:17 pm:   

Any truth to the rumor that we are to be denied yet another ocean salmon sportfishing season?....jeff
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Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 4:41 pm:   

Dave
May see you there , gonna spend a week there next month , before the crowds start .
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Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 1:07 pm:   

Yes, Blackie, I have. Sometimes on the really low tides you can get great access to holes and there are some truly nice cabs there.
The biggest hindrances are the large amounts of kelp and often dangerous swells. Squid on hefty mono....nothing complicated! The fun of that stretch of coastline is the exploring...you never know what you'll get. We see coyotes and deer on the beach often.
It's a great place to camp; i take my Lance cabover there with the kids and the dog....and they allow dogs on the beach, as it is a county park...unlike the stae beaches down here, where you can camp with your dog but cannot take him onto the sand....lame.
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Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 11:14 am:   

HEY DAVE
Yes i did try in front of the store but no luck , most of my luck was south by the cross and FARTHER,
you bet them burgers smelled good but me being a pescadarian , I leave that meat and fouls alone.
Have you ever fished those trantula rocks with rod and reel ? and results? we are def going back soon , great camping and beautiful spot , Im going to rig myself a backpack with more gear and next time head for conception, got to be some awasome fishing between JALAMA and there.
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Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 10:10 am:   

Glad you nailed them, Blackie....did you try in front of the store? Hope you were able to eat a classic Jalama Burger as well.
There are cabzillas all over the place down by Tarantula's...
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Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 8:56 am:   

Jhonny
There were mostly 20 ft in front of me , I was standing in about two ft of water.
I know one thing anybody that has the fine art of poke poling down could get some good rock fish there , when I was getting the mussels it just looked like an ideal spot for some big cabs to hang out.
I really dont think you could fish it with a rod and reel to much rock and kelp ..
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Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 6:52 pm:   

Blackie
That's a heck of a lot of Perch. Sounds like too much fun. Were they way out there or close to shore?
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Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 3:56 pm:   

FISHMASTER
yea the belt makes it nice and tight so you float face down , with your feet in the air .
NO thanks , I will take the wet suit and on rough days a float coat.

JALAMA FISH REPORT
Spent the last three days at Jalama , had a camp site right on the beach , what a great place , only 66 miles from door to door , any way never been there so was unfamilar with where to fish , first day did a lot of serching went north for nada , then went south and fianlly found sand , the area has these rocky formations everwhere they remind me of RUFFELS , and they have ridges , well these things will steal a lot of BLOODY SAND WORMS before you move on , I fished about two miles south there was a pole on the hill, looked like a cross , anyway i fished from 1500 till sundown cleaned my 10 fish and headed back to camp . I must have caught 50 fish in that spot.
Tues took off south again at 0730 walked about 5 miles to this point that looked GOOD its called point tarantula, it was very rocky , but just north was a sandy beach , so I fished there till I had 10 nice fish , It was early 1300 the tide was way out and Idid some exploring , on the rocky point I found the biggest mussels I had ever seen , I thought they would go good with my perch dinner , so I got about a dozen they were as big a my fist , went back to camp , come dinner time I put the fish in the fire in foil , and got the shellfish out and put them on the grill , gonna bbq them dudes , got all ready to eat , and opened one up to eat , You could not chew these dudes , now i know why there out there , the next day I opened them up and the seagulls had a hard time with them also .
The third day was more of the same I ventured a little farther to explore more fishing spots, got another nice limit of calicos and barries .
The one thing I failed to catch was a so called BLACK PERCH wich was the main reason for trying JALAMA .
Anyway that my JALAMA adventure , I am for sure going back , the camping spots are great , we were a stones throw from the beach , 18.00 a night , if you want full hookups its 28.00 but its up on the hill away from the beach , has a nice store , serves food , showers are 25 per 2 min.
thats all folks.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 6:15 am:   

heres a story that happend to a friend. he was out hiking on a local trail and came upon three wild piglets from the brush, he started to walk away knowing that the mother was close by. out came the mother full charge and chased him up a tree. hes sitting on the limb waching the boar charge the tree and realised that he wasnt alone, on the other side of the tree on a branch was sitting a mountain lion that was allso chased up. those pigs are nothing to mess with.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 11:29 pm:   

read it again too, yep, you're right. For concealable wepons or as you did say a handgun, must be locked in a box unless hunting or fishing, giong or coming. Is that right? sorry.

A couple years ago we had to drive a section of 41 to get to the other side of the ranch we were hunting. The truck must have looked like a porcupine with all the guns sticking out, but in an attemp to be legal everyone unloaded. My handgun too. Naturally about 30 minutes later one of the clients crippled this 280 lb boar off a ridge down in some hell hole. Being the guide I got to go down and finish it. Of course old f'ugly rose to the challenge and charged. Not a problem, all in a days work. Then the first shot went "click". Rather intensely trying to focus on the task at hand, I did not wonder why, just squeeze, "click" . . . oh yeah . . . shells in the cupholder . . speedloader too. He chased me around, up a hill and finally up a tree. I was hoping someone would shoot it again but then I'd already seen them shoot. Now with the roars of laughter coming from the truck I preferred my chances with the pig! We finally got him but I thought the rest of that weekend would never end.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 9:25 pm:   

Chambered while on an ATV is a recipe for disaster, IMO. As you stated, Steve, Cali considers 3 in the magazine unloaded for that purpose until you hit a public highway, then it's got to be completely empty.

Good example is Camp Roberts Hunting. You can cruise in your Jeep all day with a rifle magazine full and no chambered round but if you leave that gate to jump to the MATES side of the facility, you're hosed if you still have those cartridges in the mag and get out that gate.

Colorado and many other states are not as lenient, believe it or not! Travel on an ATV and it has to be latched in a scabbard, nothing in the magazine.
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steve mcgill (4baja)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 5:58 pm:   

read it again and basicly says that a hand gun must be in a locked container while in a vehical or a locked trunk. my CHP friend says he wants it in a locked pistol box with no ammo in sight. allso my sheriff friends and forestry in the sierras want my firearms on my quad not chamberd as is stated in the regs but loaded is ok. not wanting to ruffle feathers here but i was busted once for haveing a chamberd weapon that cost me 330.00 bucks so i researched it darn good. as you stated ,officers want what they want and you never know till your pulled over.

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