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Steve Hendricks (Fishmaster)
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Username: Fishmaster
Post Number: 423
Registered: 8-2003
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 9:55 pm: | |
Dogpro,
Hey, lot's of whales coming through right now. Saw about 12-15 a few weeks ago while hiking in Montana de Oro. Went whale watching in SB last week and saw 7 greys and 5 humpbacks (not sure if the humpy's are around here...they are feeding down there). Btw, there is a skinny grey whale just outside SB harbor feeding. Been there for a few weeks. Lots of people checking it out. In addition, keep an eye out for Orca's. they spotted 4 a few weeks ago in SB...guessing it was a transient pod following the grey's.
This is the season for grey whales.
best fishes,
steve |
Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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Post Number: 788
Registered: 8-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 5:12 pm: | |
what about mine , HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICHELLE |
Cracka (Jim_g)
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Post Number: 281
Registered: 3-2006
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 9:03 pm: | |
Happy Birth Day Michelle |
Marty Johnson (Dogpro)
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Post Number: 74
Registered: 2-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 12:01 pm: | |
Michelle...What is the current whale activity like? I heard the the Grey whales should be coming back thru with their babies? How has the Sand Dab fishing been? Maybe I should try it. When do you start catching the Mackeral? |
Dave Rymal (Dave_rymal)
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Post Number: 85
Registered: 8-2006
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2009 - 7:36 pm: | |
Naci report. Just got back from the cleaning station. The locals were cleaning White bass. They picked them up at about the 5 mi mark trolling weighted rooster tails. All males and haden`t spawned.
Dave |
Cloud (Cloud)
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Username: Cloud
Post Number: 190
Registered: 12-2005
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2009 - 10:02 am: | |
Mark Trejo--
We have a trip outa SB planned Saturday, possible O/N till Sunday WX permitting. Islands 1st choice but if not then up the coast under protection of headlands. You know my boat Joy Lyn, if you are boat "Playin' Hooky".
We've had good luck on inside of Cruz from Chinese-West (WSB and Hali) The Gap between Cruz and Rosa, and at the Santa Rosa Flats. I've heard the best for RF is San Miguel but it is a long run, never been.
If you want to talk call me (805) 925-0265 |
Darby Neil (Darby)
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Post Number: 124
Registered: 8-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 9:10 pm: | |
I am going to have slips available for a couple small boats (or one 50') starting May 7. Month to month, for the season or longer. Slips are hard to find around here so wanted to give you guys first shot at it. Call Virg's for details. |
Dragon (Paul_vuocolo)
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Post Number: 18
Registered: 12-2008
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 8:40 pm: | |
Windfall; Bob... I just wanted to thank you, Harold , Mel, Darby...for the focus,and level headedness in explaning these processes... I would get to revved up...I was at the dinner at the Port San luis YC. When the MLPA process (AKA; RAMRROD JOB) Was going on here... And I got the pleasure of hanging out with all of you...sat around with darby and his wife and sucked a few beers, shot the breezee...and chatted with all... I just wanted to say Thanks Again... for carring the torch!... If I can be of any help... or contribute to a fund raiser dinner... Im There...Paul V. |
Tim (Tim)
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Post Number: 67
Registered: 1-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 5:26 pm: | |
(Markt), Go here and play with it. Tim http://mapserver.maptech.com/homepage/index.cfm?lat=34.01667&lon=-119. 71667&scale=868003&zoom=50&type=0&icon=0&searchscope=dom&CFID=2746604& CFTOKEN=13716150&scriptfile=http://mapserver.maptech.com/homepage/inde x.cfm&latlontype=DMS |
Dave Rymal (Dave_rymal)
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Post Number: 84
Registered: 8-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 5:13 pm: | |
You`re right Tim, that was then on the whites. Just got back from the narrows and they are on full on spawn. Lots of fish but not biting. Only caught one. Threw everything at them some guys had live minnows. Very few caught. BUT two boats fly fishing were catching, couldn`t see what they were using but it was working.
Dave |
steve mcgill (4baja)
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Post Number: 96
Registered: 8-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 5:13 pm: | |
correction, marina del ray halibut derby. |
steve mcgill (4baja)
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Post Number: 95
Registered: 8-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 6:55 am: | |
anybody going down to the santa monica halibut derby next month or have you done the deby before? may do it and would like a few tips on the area. thanks s4baja@hotmail.com |
steve mcgill (4baja)
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Post Number: 94
Registered: 8-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 6:53 am: | |
markt, you may want to check the weather first as its suppose to gale this weekend. |
Dragon (Paul_vuocolo)
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Post Number: 17
Registered: 12-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 6:18 am: | |
Markt... all you really need is a good chart, If you have time before this weekend go to www.bajadirections.com they have the very best charts from point conception to the tip of baja. I wish they would make one for up here. if you launch out of channel is. harbor or ventura its way closer than s.b. One of my favroite areas is chinnese harbor on the front side or from the yellow banks to smugglers. even the reg. charts give GPS #s and closure areas. In spring wih this wind your going straight uphill to chinnese. most people run for so. end of anacapa and come up the back side then come arround the front at s. cruz much more protection. listen to the weather it gets very windy in the spring, kinda like here. on the whole its usually calmer... that ought to get you started... if you see a light boat alot of times they will sell you some squid...Good Luck... let us know! |
Timothy Foley (Tree_doc)
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Post Number: 320
Registered: 6-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 9:51 pm: | |
BA Stewart has it correct on the CD5. It's a Rapala. If you want the REAL skinny...it was "Firetiger" that put the hurt on those White Bass. Problem is now...that was last week. You can bet they're on to something different by now! LOL!
Rymal....I'm sportin' wood on that photo. Email sent again, lets talk. |
Jeff Horton (Seaweed)
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Post Number: 61
Registered: 8-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 9:35 pm: | |
Did anyone see on gov channel on charter. The discussion for south coast MPLA. They are going to study introducing otters to San Nicholas Island. And the Native Californians want special consideration to fish where they want. There was a tribal group forum,this was on tonight charter channel 21 till ten pm right now talking about spear fishing white sea bass and bonito. |
Greg (Littoral)
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 12-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 8:59 pm: | |
Bob,
There is a large group of yak anglers very interested in getting the North boundary of the White Rock MPA moved back to where it was originally proposed, at the South end of Marine Terrace. |
Bob Hather (Windfall)
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Username: Windfall
Post Number: 345
Registered: 8-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 6:01 pm: | |
CCFCC had a board meeting on March 12th to discuss whether to request changes to the MPA network as well as trying to open up a year round rock fish season. Present were Mel de la Motte, Bob Hather, Harold Davis and Darby Neil.
On the topic of the MPA, under consideration was asking the Commission to move the boundaries of the Piedras Blancas reserve north so the southern boundary intersects the point. This would provide the same benefit, if there is any, as the original reserve but would give fisherman the safety of fishing below the point providing protection from weather. Also discussed was the DFG's plans to scale back its budget leaving no money to monitor the impacts of the MPA's. The next item discussed was the Marine Life Protection Act. The intent of the act itself addresses the management of the fisheries, but the rules for implementation call for a 50% reduction in quotas in the absence of data. At the rate of data collection by the Feds and State biologists we can never exit from the data poor condition that exists. The law calls for the use of the best available science. We contend that the best available science is the on board fish survey we helped create and fund in a collaborative effort with the Resource Legacy Foundation. This study concluded that our region had no decline in fish stocks. Therefore, the best available science indicates no reason for the reduction in quotas. CCFCC is evaluating support among the other fishing organizations for pursuing all potential remedies for opening a year round season. More to come.
Bob Hather |
Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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Post Number: 787
Registered: 8-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 5:40 pm: | |
I thought it was a motorcycle? |
Mark Trejo (Markt)
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 3-2009
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 4:58 pm: | |
Hey Guys... Great Board Guys. I love it…. long time reader 1st time I have posted ion at least 4 years…. I am thinking about going out to the channel islands this weekend weather permitting, I cant wait for the opener here and want to fish Santa Cruz island, can anyone please give me some numbers, or spots to fish, any help would be greatly appreciated..
Thanks |
B. A. STEWART (Proline231_stella_maris)
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Post Number: 59
Registered: 10-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 3:44 pm: | |
CD5 -probable explanation.
I think treedoc is reffering to a "rapala" brand lure.
The CD stands for count down and means a diving lure (minnow plug) the # 5 is a size reference.
If its something else I want to know also.
CD models have a larger "lip" or chin, the Saltwater Magnums we use have a metal lip with a ring attached, the freshwater ones are often plastic. |
Dick Marshall (Dick_marshall)
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 3-2009
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 10:01 am: | |
Hey Treedock. What is a cd5? |
Dave Rymal (Dave_rymal)
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Post Number: 83
Registered: 8-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 7:29 pm: | |
Tim, here`s the resto.
Dave[IMG]http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp296/captdwr/P1010465.jpg[/IMG] |
Dave Rymal (Dave_rymal)
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Post Number: 82
Registered: 8-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 7:19 pm: | |
Tim my email is captyamadave@yahoo.com. Just got off the lake the toon ran great, will get my tackle ready tomorrow and head for the narrows tue.
Dave |
Timothy Foley (Tree_doc)
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Post Number: 319
Registered: 6-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 6:00 pm: | |
Dave,
Email just got kicked back to me "undeliverable". If you didn't get it, please send me an email with correct contact info to: treedoc<at>charter<dot>net
Thanks |
Timothy Foley (Tree_doc)
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Post Number: 318
Registered: 6-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 4:36 pm: | |
Sending you an email, Dave. |
Dave Rymal (Dave_rymal)
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Post Number: 81
Registered: 8-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 3:25 pm: | |
Tim, I have 2 AT1`s ready to build. Place your order now.
Dave |
Timothy Foley (Tree_doc)
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Post Number: 317
Registered: 6-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2009 - 11:43 pm: | |
I wish you hadn't mentioned that DT1 Dave.....I want!!
One of these days!!! |
Dave Rymal (Dave_rymal)
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Post Number: 80
Registered: 8-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2009 - 6:35 pm: | |
Thank`s for the Naci report Tree Doc. Ran to Batrums and got everything to tune and service the 60 merc. Just finished the tune and will change the oil tomorrow. Been tied up with a `69 Yamaha DT1 restoration for a customer. Done yesterday. Time to fish.
Capt Dave |
Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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Post Number: 786
Registered: 8-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2009 - 9:17 am: | |
WOW TACOS
Yea I had to get a wheelbarrow to get out of DANS place yesterday , thanks CABO DAN for a filling meal and some great conversation , and nice meeting your DAD also .Come on guys and gals get them pict on the WALL OF FAME.
Ill be back .
Blackie |
Timothy Foley (Tree_doc)
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Post Number: 316
Registered: 6-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 10:48 pm: | |
Fish report for Naci White Bass. Yesterday, 82 fish for 5 hours of trolling in the narrows with CD5's. Troll speed 2.6 to 3 nmh or they wouldn't bite. Report came from a hunting buddy from over in the valley. |
Dan Harper (Cabo_dan)
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 6-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 5:29 pm: | |
Hey Joe, I'll have you know I am the President of the local P.E.T.A. chapter. That would be the People Eating Tasty Animals group. Great clip. Yea, I got your fish taco right here buddy.
PS Getting some great fishing pictures coming into Cabo San Luis. Thanks Carl & Blackie. Need more pics! Come in this week and take advantage of our first time ever $1.00 fish Taco week, ends Sunday. (Sorry guys, I know this isnt supposed to be an advertising page, won't happen again...
Dan |
HARRELL KIMBALL (Catmakai)
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Post Number: 931
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 4:17 pm: | |
Here is the pic ;
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HARRELL KIMBALL (Catmakai)
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Post Number: 930
Registered: 8-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 4:10 pm: | |
A few people have asked me how Patriot's crab trips work. Some thought that they had to bring their own traps. Here is a pic of the set up. They have 14 traps that have been soaking for three or four days and as soon as you leave the dock they head straight for the traps and start pulling. Joe does all the work while you watch the traps coming up and count your crabs.
The Pacific Horizon is a nice comfortable boat with a nice warm cabin if the wind comes up.
Tomorrow would be a good day to go because The traps were moved wednesday on our trip and so far they have a light load for tomorrow.
Will add the pic in the next post. |
Dave Rymal (Dave_rymal)
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Post Number: 79
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 4:06 pm: | |
No white bass in the narrows yet, I`ll be putting my toon in the water next week and give a report. My neighbor caught 20 crappie last week in christmas cove.
Capt Dave |
Robert L Bishop Jr (Rob_bishop)
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Post Number: 130
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 3:23 pm: | |
does anyone know if the white bass are in the narrows at naci yet ,would be fun to sneak a night trip to the monterey bay aquarium with them big tuna poles and clean all the tuna out of there off shore exhibit then set up a booth out front and sell fresh sushimi out front to the visitors |
David Martines (Sangria)
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Post Number: 105
Registered: 4-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 2:47 pm: | |
WEATHER IS WARMING UP AGAIN TO LOAD THE GRILL
WITH RIBS, TRI TIP. CHICKEN, SAUSAGE
AND PETABURGERS WITH CHANTERELLE MUSHROOMS.....WE'LL MEET AT JOES PLACE FOR FREE
BEER AND BOAT RIDES..... |
Joe Phillips (Bumpcity)
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 12-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 2:19 pm: | |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ijLulwUTY
Check this out for an eye opener. Hey Cabo, will this get me a Taco....... |
General Cabezon Slayer (Mad_portagee)
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Post Number: 6
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 12:16 am: | |
Darby... thank you for the hi-res scan. Sadly... the guy in question unfortunately was not my old buddy as I had originally thought, and the picture in full detail clearly shows this. It was exciting while it lasted though, and the low-res scan even fooled his wife! She'll be celebrating her 102nd birthday in a few weeks, and the old commercial fisherman would have been 98 in a month!
Thanks again...
MP |
Jeff Bishop (Jeff_b)
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Registered: 3-2009
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 10:20 pm: | |
Hey John, I have one of those stragglers jigs with the name stamped on it. I also have a couple other old jigs, one from Roddy I believe. Tell everyone hello for me. |
John&Sharon Rowley (Outatsea)
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Post Number: 43
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 9:30 pm: | |
Bob,
Read your post about your Dad starting light tackle fishing with Straggler jigs. I got my start fishing with Leonard Lussier when I was 9 years old. He created a new jig and was looking for a name for his light slow-action jig. I told him he should call it a straggler as when I was hiking with my dad he kept telling me "hurry up and catch up" and "quit being a straggler". I'd spend my afternoons during the week after school assembling, painting and stamping the name on the jigs instead of doing my homework. Therefore, I spent the rest of my career as a fisherman. I was fortunate enough to go fishing with Leonard throughout Mexico and Southern California. Then in 1970 I met your dad, Bob, and was fortunate enough to fish with him also. I still have a few Straggler jacket patches. John Rowley |
bob may (Bodean)
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Post Number: 156
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 9:20 pm: | |
REALLY...
Maybe the nazi`s influxed our country |
Eric Endersby (Eric_endersby)
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 7-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 8:00 pm: | |
Sutton just got reappointed by the Governor. |
Chip Tamagni (Fishfitr)
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Sutton should be hung. What a waste of taxpayers dollars to pay him to be objective. We might as well have a chief justice on the supreme court have income from Fidel Castro. What a crock. What even pisses me off even more is the fact someone like Packard can influence decisions with her money that affect all of us. I will never, ever visit that aquarium again! |
HARRELL KIMBALL (Catmakai)
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Post Number: 929
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 6:33 am: | |
DUNGENESS CRABS AGAIN !
Went crabbing again on the Pacific Horizon and had another great trip, ie; Good weather, good crew and good crabbing. Brought home another half dozen and had a delicious crab salad for dinner. Also a lot of Sand Dabs.
We moved the traps to a fresh location so the counts should be even better for the next trip or two. |
Dragon (Paul_vuocolo)
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The purverbial foot is in the door...Its amazing what can be gleaned from public record, if you no what your looking for. Theres trial attourneys, and theres research attourneys. Ken Barnes must be the later. Or works for one...eather way, Ken Barnes the fishing community Thanks You !! Now possibly this whole MLPA thing will implode as it should. This is going to get good...VERY GOOD!! |
Darby Neil (Darby)
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I love it. Let the truth be known! |
General Cabezon Slayer (Mad_portagee)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 8:16 pm: | |
My apologies Darby... the link should work now, and again... I appreciate it.
MP |
Bob Gannon (BarneyC) (Barneyc)
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That San Diego article exposes the whole MLPA process for what it really is. This whole process is one big conflict of interest. Any program that receives its sole funding from a group that has a vested interest in seeing the most restrictive closures enacted is a total conflict. Just what do you think the outcome will be? We saw that here when the closure package was voted on. The Commission came up with a plan that wasn't even discussed in open forum. Voted on it and then enacted that very package! Watch what happens when the North Central package comes to a vote. The Commission already has a plan they will vote on and it will be their own plan not one that came from a discussion group. They have the meetings and ask the public to get involved because they have to do that. It's the law. The one thing they don't have to do is listen. And they don't, won't and can't because of where the funding comes from. The RLFF funds the program and the Packard Foundation funds the RLFF! Money laundering at its finest. Its a total political sham. They are clever to not take away our "right" to fish just our right to "catch" fish. Incredible! Let's all thank Gov Davis for this wonderful legacy he left us. |
Mike Andrews (Canvasman_mike)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 3:17 pm: | |
Hello Blackie,
Mike Andrews from Mike's Marine Canvas here. I love repair work....(805)473-4880....Thanks, Mike |
bob may (Bodean)
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Where`s Mel? Mel we need you!!! |
Tsunami (Carl_moore)
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 11:25 am: | |
This is a easiser read than the first post.
San Diego Union-Tribune:
Conflict of interest for Fish and Game Commissioner Michael Sutton?
By Ed Zieralski
I was buried in the Marine Life Protection Act meeting Wednesday morning and missed the blockbuster that occurred at the California Fish and Game Commission that morning.
A Mystery Man who identified himself as Ken Barnes? dropped a bombshell on the Commission.
Mystery Man opened by applauding commissioner Richard Rogers for recusing himself from an item at the February Commission meeting because of "conflict of interest."
Rogers recused himself over the longfin smelt issue.
Then Mystery Man told the Commission he was presenting a 23-page document detailing reasons why commissioner Michael Sutton should recuse himself from future discussions on the controversial Marine Life Protection Act because of his "conflict of interest."
As a matter of background, the MLPA already has closed off key fishing zones, now marine protected areas, off the Central Coast and threatens to do the same all along the California coastline. The North Central Coast is up next, followed by the South Coast that, of course, includes San Diego County's coastline.
But back to that mystery document from the Mystery Man.
"It's a 23-page document and I urge you all to read it," Mystery Man said.
Your Going Outside correspondent, who spent most of last week holed up in the back of the International Ballroom of the Hilton Hotel because of the MLPA South Coast Region Stakeholders meeting, managed to get his sweaty hands on this document.
It's an amazing piece of work that ties together reasons for Sutton to recuse himself from all further discussions about the MLPA process. I take it a step further.
I'm sure there will be calls for Sutton to resign as a Commissioner of the California Fish and Game Commission.
The document ties together what many have been whispering for months, which is, it's not right for Sutton to be making decisions about the MLPA process because his place of business, the Monterey Bay Aquarium, like the MLPA process, has been funded by the David & Lucile Packard Foundation. The Packard Foundation has funneled just over $18 million over three years to the Resources Legacy Fund Foundation toward "furtherance of the MLPA," the document reads. The RLFF is funding the implementation of the MLPA through a Memorandum of Understanding with the California Natural Resources Agency and the California Department of Fish and Game.
The RLFF got its money from Packard, and Sutton has benefited from the Packard Foundation for a decade.
What's amazing about this document is it's simply signed, "Concerned Citizen." No individual or organization claims authoring it. But this concerned citizen makes a convincing case as to why Sutton has a conflict of interest regarding the MLPA process. It also implicates Margaret Caldwell, who is on the Blue Ribbon Task Force, an advisory body to the Fish and Game Commission regarding the MLPAs. Caldwell serves as a governing Trustee of the Monterey Bay Aquarium.
But the main charge is against Sutton, a corporate officer with the Monterey Bay Aquarium, has a "material financial conflict concerning the Marine Life Protection Act." It charges that Sutton has "filed incomplete/inaccurate statements of economic interests to the FPPC on Form 700."
What does that mean?
Sutton wasn't as forthcoming as he should have been when he filed his Statement of Economic Interests form, California Form 700, with the Fair Political Practices Commission, back on May 3, 2007.
It states that "the conflict is actual and material and requires his disqualification, should he not voluntarily recuse himself, from any discussion or consideration of the MLPA at the Commission."
The document explains that Sutton serves as corporate officer of the Monterey Bay Aquarium, and was paid $138,357 in 2006, plus $30,832 in employee benefits and deferred compensation.
Prior to joining the Aquarium, Sutton headed the Marine Fisheries Conservation Program for Packard for five years. The document states Sutton has had a "vested interest in advancing the interests of Packard et al for almost 10 years."
On top of all that, the document goes on to state that "the Aquarium was founded by Packard in 1978 and Packard provides significant financial support to the Aquarium while members of the Packard family continue to serve as Trustees on the governing board of the Aquarium. For 2005, 2006 and 2007, Packard contributed $123,467,665 to the Aquarium and its affiliated entities according to Internal Revenue Service (IRS) Forms 990 filed with the IRS."
Let's write that another way: The Packard Foundation contributed over $123 million over three years to the Monterey Bay Aquarium. And the Packard Foundation has contributed over $18 million to keeping the MLPA process afloat. Those are figures usually reserved for the pro sports world.
The document also points out that "Aquarium Trustee Mr. Michal Mantell is the founder of the Resources Law Group, the legal arm of the RLFF, and that the Resources Law Group was the recipient of $291,971 in contractor fees from Packard in 2006 alone, according to IRS tax returns."
And it states that Aquarium Trustee Margaret Caldwell, the Blue Ribbon Task Force member, also is conflicted or compromised because she's a member of the governing body of Sutton's employer, has influence over Sutton's direct financial interest and yet serves as an advisor to him on matters regarding the MLPA.
"Is the public to assume that Ms. Caldwell's opinion on any matter before Commissioner Sutton carries no more weight than the opinion of any other BRTF member?" the document asks. "On the contrary, the public would rightly assume that Commissioner Sutton would place greater weight on the advice (and direction) of BRTF member Caldwell as a member of the Board of Trustees of the Aquarium, Commissioner Sutton's employer."
Here's more from this incredible document that not only should disqualify Sutton from anything related to the MLPA process, but should cost him his seat on the Fish and Game Commission.
"The views of the Aquarium in actively supporting Marine Protected Areas (MPAs) are widely known as the Aquarium is a vocal advocate for ocean closures through the imposition of MPAs," the document reads. "The Aquarium was actively engaged in lobbying for adoption of the Central Coast MPAs and currently is engaged in lobbying the Commission for the adoption of the Integrated Preferred Alternative (IPA) for the North Central Coast over all other alternatives presented to the Commission by the Blue Ribbon Task Force (BRTF), an advisory body to the Commission regarding the MLPA.
"Commissioner Sutton, as the Aquarium's Vice President and Director of the Center for Future of the Oceans has been equally vocal in his advocacy for the IPA. The public record of Commission meetings leaves no doubt that Commissioner Sutton advocates for ocean closures through imposition of MPAs and advocates for speedy adoption of regulations to implement the IPA for the North Central Coast. In fact, the Aquarium has posted on its website an electronic communication (Attachment B) asking the Commission to 'Please approve the IPA with no further cuts to protect California's North Central Coast . . .' One only needs to add one's name and address and click on the website to transmit this communication to the Commission."
There have been whispers this was going to happen, but now that it has, it clearly has caught everyone, including Sutton, off guard. He looked like he just got dunked into the Monterey Aquarium after Mystery Man left the podium. It appeared everyone was caught by surprise.
Rogers asked the man to return to the podium and asked him what group he represented.
"It's all in the document," Mystery Man said and then mixed out of the hall.
Sutton, of Monterey, was appointed to the Fish and Game Commission on May 4, 2007. His biography on the Fish and Game Commission Web site says has served as vice president and founding director of the Center for the Future of the Oceans at the Monterey Bay Aquarium since 2004.
But before that he was program officer for the conservation and science program at the David and Lucile Packard Foundation from 1999 to 2004.
It's a little too much Packard, too little honesty.
Surely this set the stage for the lively exchange at Thursday's Commission meeting between commissioners Sutton and Dan Richards. As much as Sutton wants to speed through the MLPA process and rubber stamp it into being, Richards has called for explanations of whom will be impacted by these marine protected areas and how they will be paid for in terms of enforcement, monitoring and public outreach.
A Department of Fish and Game analysis has shown that the entire MLPA will cost the state between $30 million and $40 million a year for warden enforcement, biological monitoring and for public outreach programs.
Thus far, the state has kicked some money toward the process, but Richards said there isn't even enough money right now to properly enforce, monitor and do public outreach for the Central Coast, much less the North Central when it, and if, it passes.
The state Legislature passed the Marine Life Protection Act in 1999 without any clear mechanism for funding. That's why environmentalist-backed groups like the Packard Foundation were able to step in and hijack the process.
That's why Sutton and the two representatives from the environmental community clearly were upset that public comment for the North Central Coast part of the MLPA process was delayed until later this summer. The environmental groups tried to blame the Department of Fish and Game, but deputy director Sonke Mastrup corrected them and pointed out that the Resources Legacy law firm actually was late getting the document to the DFG. |
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Holy $H!+, your gonna love this one. Please read.
Here is the Document that was put out for the public to see. I am requesting that everyone, and i mean everyone copy this and send it to the Governor. It is a Long read, but this is what we are up against. Feel Free to Copy this document and send it with your comments to the Governor. This is a way that you can protect the rights of fisherman, by expressing your opinion on this matter. Please take the time.
http://gov.ca.gov/interact#email
DOCUMENTS REGARDING FISH And GAME COMMISSIONER GEORGE MICHAEL SUTTON Commissioner Sutton has a material financial conflict concerning the Marine Life Protection Act. Commissioner Sutton has filed incomplete/inaccurate STATEMENTS OF ECONOMIC INTERESTS TO THE FPPC ON FORM 700. February 27, 2009 Ms. Cindy Gustafson, President California Fish & Game Commission 141 6 Ninth Street Sacramento, CA 95814 RE: Commissioner Mike Sutton conflict of interest in matters involving the Marine Life Protection Act Dear President Gustafson: We applaud Commissioner Richard Rogers' recusal of himself at the February Commission meeting before the Commission considered the matter of the listing of the Longfin Smelt on the Endangered Species List. Commissioner Rogers, with respect for the interest of the public he serves, recused himself so that there would not be even the appearance of a conflict of interest.
In the matter of Commissioner Sutton and the Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA), the conflict is actual and material and requires his disqualification, should he not voluntarily recuse himself, from any discussion or consideration of the MLPA at the Commission. While not disclosed as required by law in the public record on Form 700 (STATEMENT OF ECONOMIC INTERESTS - Attaclunent A), Mr. Sutton serves as a corporate officer of the Monterey Bay Aquarium (Aquarium), for which he was compensated in 2006 by salary of $138,357 and $30,832 in employee benefit plans and deferred compensation. The views of the Aquarium in actively supporting Marine Protected Areas (MPAs) are widely known as the Aquarium is a vocal advocate for ocean closures through the imposition of WAS.
The Aquarium was actively engaged in lobbying for adoption of the Central Coast MPAs and curently is engaged in lobbying the Commission for the adoption of the Integrated Preferred Alternative (IPA) for the North Central Coast over all other alternatives presented to the Commission by the Blue Ribbon Task Force (BRTF), an advisory body to the Commission regarding the MLPA. Commissioner Sutton, as the Aquarium's Vice President and Director of the Center for Future of the Oceans has been equally vocal in his advocacy for the IPA. The public record of Commission meetings leaves no doubt that Commissioner Sutton advocates for ocean closures through imposition of MPAs and advocates for speedy adoption of regulations to implement the IPA for the North Central Coast. In fact, the Aquarium has posted on its website an electronic communication (Attachment B) asking the Commission to "Please approve the IPA with no h-ther cuts to protect California's North Central Coast . . ." One only needs to add one's name and address and click on the website to transmit this communication to the Commission. This predetermined mindset in concert with his employer on an issue before the Commission constitutes a material financial conflict of interest. Would anyone suppose that Commissioner Sutton would put his employment in jeopardy by voting against the direction of his employer? Of course, he would not. Further, Commissioner Sutton undermines the well established concept that Commissioners will be objective in their evaluation of facts and consider all written and oral testimony presented to the Commission before making a decision on such a critical issue. Commissioner Sutton has broached his fiduciary duty with the citizens of California.
Of great concern is Commissioner Sutton's direct financial interest in furthering the objectives of the Aquarium, the David & Lucille Packard Foundation (Packard) and the Resources Legacy Fund Foundation (RLFF) with the implementation of the MLPA. As previously stated, Mr. Sutton declares "no reportable interests" regarding his income on Form 700, so Mr. Sutton's only known source of income is his salary paid by the Aquarium. Prior to his transfer from Packard to the Aquarium, Commissioner Sutton headed the Marine Fisheries Conservation Program of Packard for five years. Thus, Commissioner Sutton has had a vested interest in advancing the interests of Packard et a1 for almost 10 years.
The Aquarium was founded by Packard in 1978 and Packard provides significant financial support to the Aquarium while members of the Packard family continue to serve as Trustees on the governing board of the Aquarium. For 2005,2006 and 2007, Packard contributed $123,467,665 to the Aquarium and its affiliated entities according to Internal Revenue Service (IRS) Forms 990 filed with the IRS. The following people serve as governing Trustees of the Aquarium: Dr. Peter S. Bing, Chairman Roberta Bialek Margaret Caldwell Jim Canales Paul L. Davies 111 Susan Ford Dorsey Michael Mantel! Connie Martinez Dr. Marcia K. McNutt Stephen C. Neal Susan Packard On; Julie Packard, Vice Chairman Pietro Parravano Gordon R. Smith Mark Wan Aquarium Trustee Susan Packard Orr also serves as Chair of the Packard Board of Trustees, while Aquarium Trustee and Aquarium Executive Director Julie Packard serves as Packard's Vice Chair. The Packard Foundation has funneled significant sums of money to the Resources Legacy Fund Foundation (RLFF). According to the Packard website, Packard is using the RLFF as a funding conduit for the MLPA and with the Packard California Coast program. Please note that Packard posts on its website the following statement: "For information on how to apply for a grant in this area, please contact the Resources Legacy Fund Foundation at (916) 442-5057." While much has been made of the funding by RLFF of the implementation of the MLPA through a Memorandum of Understanding with the California Resources Agency and the California Department of Fish & Game, Packard appears to use the RLFF as an accommodating conduit for Packard funding and has made the RLFF the point of contact (as noted above) for Packard funding for other grants related to ocean protection.
According to Packard tax returns filed with the IRS for 2005,2006 and 2007, Packard funneled $18,100,000 to the RLFF toward furtherance of the MLPA. Further, Mr. Gordon R. Smith, President and Chief Executive Officer of the Pacific Gas and Electric Company, serves not only on the Aquarium Board of Trustees but also serves on the governing Board of the RLFF. Note also that Aquarium Trustee Mr. Michael Mantell is the founder of the Resources Law Group, the legal arm of the RLFF, and that the Resources Law Group was the recipient of $291,971 in contractor fees from Packard in 2006 alone, according to IRS tax returns. Of interest as well is Aquarium Tn~steeM argaret Caldwell who serves on the Blue Ribbon Task Force (BRTF), an advisory body to the Fish & Game Commission for the MLPA. As you know, the BRTF has advanced the IPA to the Commission as its "preferred alternative." Here a conflict arises with a member of the governing body of Commissioner Sutton's employer, arguably with influence over Commissioner Sutton's direct financial interest, serving as an "advisor" to him on matters regarding the MLPA. Is the public to assume that Ms. Caldwell's opinion on any matter before Commissioner Sutton carries no more weight than the opinion of any other BRTF member? On the contrary, the public would rightly assume that Commissioner Sutton would place greater weight on the advice (and direction) of BRTF member Caldwell as a member of the Board of Tiustees of the Aquarium, Commissioner Sutton's employer. The financial connections between Packard and RLFF do not end with RLFF serving as a conduit for Packard grants to fund the MLPA. Packard also has advanced to the Resources Legacy Fund, an affiliate of RLFF with the same Board of Trustees as RLFF, a $7,000,000 revolving line of credit with a below-market interest rate of one percentage point per m u m (1%) according to RLFF's IRS Form 990 filed with the Internal Revenue Service. In 2006, again according to IRS tax returns filed by RLFF, RLFF made a contribution of $203,394 to the Stanford Law School, BRTF member Caldwell's employer.
Also in 2006, Packard contributed $25,000,000 to establish the Center for Ocean Solutions, a collaboration of Stanford University, the Monterey Bay Aquarium and its affiliate, the Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute. Named as interim Director of the Center was BRTF member Margaret Caldwell. According to IRS filings, the RLFF made a direct contribution of $500,000 to the Monterey Bay Aquarium. Asking the Commission and the general public to assume that Commissioner Sutton would take an objective approach to the implementation of the MLPA, notwithstanding the significant direct financial support to him by his employer the Aquarium, Packard directly and through the RLFF, the influence of RLFF Board members and Packard family members as Trustees of the Aquarium belies credibility. Any reasonable, objective observer would conclude from the above information that Commissioner Sutton has obvious material conflicts inherent in the interdependent financial transfers, overlapping governing board members and the management interactions of Packard, the RLFF and the Aquarium. During the course of examining Commissioner Sutton's conflict of interest regarding the MLPA, we also discovered a deficiency of reporting in his Statement of Economic Interests (FPPC Form 700). Given that Commissioner Sutton has a law degree, and that the Form 700 is certified under penalty of perjury, one must ask if the deficiency is intentional. While we cannot speculate on Commissioner Sutton's possible motivation in making false declarations, we believe that we are obligated to bring them to your attention in light of his material conflict of interest.
The following omissions in reporting by Commissioner Sutton are found both in his assuming office statement dated May 30, 2007 and his annual statement for 2007 dated March 14,2008. On "Item 4. Schedule Summary," Commissioner Sutton declares that he has "No reportable interests on any schedule." The Conflict of Interest Code of the California Fish and Game Commission (Attachment C), approved April 4,2005 pursuant to Government Code Section 87303, requires Commissioner Sutton, under Disclosure Category I, to disclose his interest in "real property within the designated employee's jurisdictional authority [the state of California] and all investments, and business positions in business entities, and income, including gifts, loans, or travel payments, from any of the following areas," excerpts below: According to records in the office of the Monterey County Assessor (Attachment D), George M. Sutton has a 50% interest in the real property identified by APN 189-241-022-000, a single family dwelling located in Monterey County, California. Assuming this particular George M. Sutton is the same person as Commissioner Mike Sutton, Commissioner Sutton has failed to disclose this reportable real property "under penalty of perjury under the laws of the State of California." From the Conflict of Interest Code: For Commissioners: Category I: Those designated employees filing Form 700, Statement of Economic Interests, under disclosure Category I must report real property within the designated employees jurisdictional authority and all investments, and business positions in business entities, and income, including gifts, loans, or travel payments, from any of the following areas: [emphasis added] Item # 5. Outdoor recreation, such as rental outlets, gear rental, guide services, dog rental, private charters, etc. Attachment E is a copy of a page from the Monterey Bay Aquarium website. The page advertises a "for-fee" dive program that includes scuba equipment offered by the Aquarium to children ages 8 - 13 as part of the Aquarium's Underwater Explorers program.
This rented scuba equipment for use in the Aquarium's tide pool qualifies as outdoor recreation and gear rental and thus requires disclosure of income from an entity that provides such services to the public. Attachment F is a copy of a page from the Monterey Bay Aquarium that advertises "for-fee" sailing charters by the Aquarium on Monterey Bay. This sailing charter obviously qualifies as a charter and thus requires disclosure of income from an entity that provides such services to the public. Item # 7. Mining firms and/or firms utilizing the aquatic and or terrestrial environment, including firms which hold interests in firms utilizing the aquatic and or terrestrial environment (i.e., salt mining, oil, nuclear power, logging, dredging, land development, etc.) Clearly, the Monterey Bay Aquarium, hard by the Pacific Ocean, regularly circulating, in taking and discharging ocean salt water for its display tanks, is utilizing the aquatic environment. Additionally, many of the activities of the Aquarium are directly regulated by the Department of Fish & Game and the Aquarium is issued permits by the Department to engage in such activity.
As an example, the Aquarium must receive a "collector's permit" to capture and display marine fishes such as the "white shark" (an endangered species) placed on exhibit at the Aquarium for a period of months and then released back into the Pacific Ocean. By reviewing Commissioner Sutton's Form 700, a member of the general public would have no knowledge that Commissioner Sutton is employed by an entity requiring permits issued by the DFG and receives substantial personal income from that entity. Thus, the public would be deprived of an objective hearing of facts as to whether or not the Aquarium, as a permit applicant, should be allowed to participate in the permitted activity. Commissioner Sutton has failed the test of full and complete disclosure as required by California law and has undermined public confidence in the decisions of the Commission as being in the best interests of the people of the State of California. Commissioner Sutton has failed the test of conflict of interest and must excuse himself from any participation, discussion, consideration and/or implementation of the Marine Life Protection Act. |
Charles Buzzetti (Cbuzzetti)
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I would also happily pay the additional lic fee for a WSB fishery. But it has to be a hook and line only fishery. Definetly do not want to start an inshore gill net thing going. |
Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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HEY
I have need of the CANVASMAN , I did see a post some time back , how about a shout , I have some REPAIRS that needs to be done.
Blackie |
Darby Neil (Darby)
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general, your email link didn't work, what's you email addy? |
Darby Neil (Darby)
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Kohe, yes this would probably be the best place to start that fire that I know of! General, high res scan is on the way. let me know what you find out.
Don't know anything about this guy except his phone is 2711! But great photo. |
robb e (Plan_b)
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i'm all for a wsb project up here. and pay for the stamp. clearly it works down south. heck i would even welcome the guys from down south. there going to need someplace else to fish after the mpa's take over down there. did i see an mpa map shutting down most of catalina? wow |
Kohei Kikuchi (Robalo18)
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Thanks for your input, Darby. We have found some info in the archives at CCSE of past attempts. We believe those attempts were at least partially offset by having the available salmon fry for the pens. With no salmon for our pens, I am hoping this current attempt will get further. One of the bones of contention is the 'Ocean Enhancement' Stamp on the licenses for the SoCal guys that goes straight to this WSB project. One of the initial opposing comments was that 'us guys' in the CenCal area do not pay this extra fee - therefore, we are not entitled to take part in this project. So, some of you guys may oppose this concept - but we are discussing the idea of proposing the same 'Enhancement' stamp for our area to the CDFG. The SoCal guys pay $4.75 for this stamp now. We believe that if a viable WSB fishery develops in our area - as there has been before, this area would be delighted to have the additional attention. So, I guess what I am trying to say is - YES, it is worth the effort, despite our past failures. As we forge ahead with this, we will be needing plenty of help. I know this website is basically for fishing reports, but I am not familiar with any other venue which is watched regularly by a great representation of fisher-folks in this area in which we live. |
General Charles Cornwallis (Mad_portagee)
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Darby... one of the old timers in that photo with the sea bass might be an old buddy of mine but I can't quite tell. My next-door neighbor, (his 101 year-old wife) would love to see it if it is indeed him. Is there any way you could email me a scan of it... or maybe post a larger scan of it here on the board? I can also get over to you at the docks as well, if that's easier.
Thanks... MP |
Darby Neil (Darby)
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CCSE has been talking about adding another fish for over ten years now. I was part of the input group on that back when Connie was at the wheel. (her husband Don is the guy I hunt out of state with every year. Sara's husband Dan is the guy who set up our first trip and then bailed out!) I was pushing for WSB and then they came up with some very interesting rockfish information. The thought was if we raise and release rockfish we could put back what we are taking out and get a longer season. Everyone would support anything you do. |
Kohei Kikuchi (Robalo18)
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Darby - I belong to a group you may be familiar with, Central Coast Salmon Enhancement. I noticed the picture of the sea bass. As DFG is not selling us any more salmon fingerlings for our grow-out pens, we are now trying to get white sea bass for our pens. The Hubbs people running this program seem to think there are no sea bass north of Point Conception. Can we talk? Please send me an email at kkikuchi@sbcglobal.net
Thanks, Kohei |
John Usilton (Teachers_pet)
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Bob thanks for your post...It brought back a flood of memories fishing with your dad...we would drive all night from Glendale after my high school football games and troll for albacore on the Mallard Sat. mornings...thanks Bob, your buddy John... |
Darby Neil (Darby)
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Bob, yeah I know you watch this board and yeah, I kinda baited you into it on purpose! Thanks for the post. If history was always this interesting to me I would have paid attention in school! If you or Ginny have any photos to contribute I'd like to put a copy and your memories in this history of Morro Bay sportfishing that I am attempting to do in spare time for www.oldmorrobay.com. In fact, you'd probably do a better job of it if you want to help. You could probably identify some of the guys from the photos that I have from back then who i was to young to know or remember. You know where to find me.
 By all the photos, seabass were thick around here until the late 60's! |
jeffrey stulberg (Good_karma_ii)
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I fished Arroyo de la Cruz creek last Saturday on the last day of the winter steelhead season...It was a beautiful morning and I was lucky enough to hook and release nice 24" chrome bright steelhead just below the hwy 1 bridge on a "salmon egg" imitator fly...The fish and game guys were as plentiful as the fish,but left everyone alone after checking licenses,tags and the flies for barbless status...A very good end to what was a short but epic local run...Now that I really have the bug BAD,I'm going to need another trip back to Oregon where the winter steelead run is just tapering off and the spring salmon and steelhead runs are just beginning......Oregon Fish and Game is predicting an excellent spring chinook run in the Willammette,Rogue and Columbia river systems....jeff |
Johnny Grubb (Big_fatty)
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Monterey just had their Perch tournament, sounds kinda fun.
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/sports/ci_11816627 |
Robert Grillo (Devildog)
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wow, I think someone just got spanked. |
Bob Gannon (BarneyC) (Barneyc)
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Well, I have resisted for all these years at getting involved in these sometimes quite humorous fishing "Expert" squabbles until now. When it involves family I have to speak up. This is your fault Darby! The type of "New" fishing that is referred to in the Saltwater Sportsman magazine is light tackle rockcod fishing. My Dad was given a few Straggler Jigs by the late Dick Helgren back in the mid to late sixty's. These were one of the first jigs to be made from alloy material and not straight lead. They were made in a 2 piece mold and had the name stamped into the back of the jig. They were only 2-4 oz so they worked great for shallow water and were not for the deep. However, my Dad would fish them deep but, if you tried it and had even one tangle or hang up you got an ear full and were told to fish with the heavy stuff. He would fish these with a Roddy Rod and a Penn Monofil #25. At the time this was more of an Albacore setup not intended for catching big Rockcod. When Leon Todd left Roddy and started Sabre my Dad switched to a Sabre 196. His other favorite was a Lamiglass 105 made by the late Bruce Brebes. The lighter the better. More of a challenge and a lot more fun. You have to remember this was a time when fishing tackle wasn't very refined and the equipment on the boats to find the fish or the fishing spots was limited or nonexistent. A flasher for a fish finder and an RDF for location. No Radar either. I don't know how he and Virg did it. Up to Cambria, fish at the Domes all day and back to MB without seeing shore. We would stop close to the entrance to listen for the Bell Buoy and then the fog horn on the breakwater. My GPS goes out and I stay home! Go figure. Anyhow, this was "New" fishing for an area that was known for filling freezers with #80 line, #5 leads and rail plates. I saw my Dad catch a #30 class Albacore with a Sabre 130 and #10 test in less than 5 minutes. Unheard of then but not so much now. You have to think of what was available in the 60's in general and this was cutting edge stuff. Now everyone fishes this way with as light as possible gear and I think we're better for it. I guess somebody had to start this style of fishing. Whether it was my Dad or someone else who knows. This article gave him the credit for it because the author happened to fish with him first utilizing these light jigs. See what you started Darby! Also the sign over my Dad's left shoulder Says "Granny's Galley". This was a sign I made for Rita when she was the "galley girl" on the Mallard. Back when hot cooked food was a staple on the boats. |
B. A. STEWART (Proline231_stella_maris)
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Darby
You got me thinking. you are right, We had very few selections for jigs in the late 60s, early 70s.
We had mainly bridgeport type diamond jigs, Chrome hex bars made ofthe same stuff and some homemades.
Not until the mid to late 70s were there a lot of store bought choices, many of them were just poured lead candy bars with hand painted schemes on them and a treble ringed to the bottom.
when the cheap but sharp trebbles would break we would replace them with other hooks and some times a used gangions "HulaSkirt". All this helped avoid fishing with "Cannon Balls".
It also Got us started using light line and light gear on private boats ,once someone figured you diidnt need dacron and 2# lead to get big fish in less than 20fathoms.
In the early 80s we were down to 8# test on bass gear for a while fishing rubber worms after we had gotten a few fish in the boat, great fun.but I dont imagine it would work well on a party boat. To this day we do a lot of our fishing on 17/15 and even 12# spin gear when drift and depth allow. I just grew up with the wrong assumption that everyone fished like that some of the time and that inovative techniques came from elsewhere. we also "discovered" that you didnt need a 6' telephone pole thick rod to jig big fish when we could use our longer surf and pier rods more effectively. but we also learned the hard way that you cant "crank and yank em" over the rail without a gaff on light gear.
I have lost most of the old terminal tackle but we still throw a diamond down drift.
The loads were like you say, especially weekends, and I grew to like the bow of the party boats and seldom had a light sack.
and yes the board is spread horizontaly for me also today. |
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When someone put up pictures, they put the posts way out there so you have to scroll left and right to read. Please make sure you size your pictures to meet the sites requirements. Moderator must fix it now. Tim |
Mark Trejo (Markt)
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Attention Fisherman: I am selling a great Fishing – Family boat. Only selling this boat as I just got a bigger one, I am offering a Really Good Deal on this boat… This boat caught some many rockcod, 20Lb lingcod, Halibut, Albacore, Bonita, and even 1 yellow fin out of Port San Luis For those that have fished out of Port San Luis you may have seen the boat it’s name is the MARY JANE II. I have fished this lovely boat every ware from right out front, to Pt. Sal, Purisma, and taken it out as far as 46 miles chasing Tuna, Great fuel. You can pretty much any ware the boat will take you in 1 day on 20 gals….. If anyone has any questions please call me.
1997 Bayliner Capri 1950. Perfect family Boat lake, Ocean, skiing, or fishing… 135HP 3.0L Merc Curser inboard runs great, Fish finder, VHF Antenna, Marine Battery and setup for 2nd battery, Ski Ring, Bimini Top. Trailer…. Runs Great. Seats 7, and has great fuel economy. (An entire weekend for skiing on 1x 20Gal tank) I have used this boat to go deep sea fishing and wakeboarding. Good condition. I will even through in life jackets, and my wake board. Only selling to get a bigger boat. $3500.00 OBO … 805-710-8505 |
Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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No darby , I also noticed it , and just figured I did something , it makes for a tough read. |
Darby Neil (Darby)
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Does anyone else have a problem getting this website to fit on your screeen with out having to "scroll" across andback again to read every line? |
Darby Neil (Darby)
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Obviously it was new to the writer who considered himself an expert on the subject and would have been since he fished all over the world writing stories. It was unique to the central coast and therefore new to the mojority of his readers. Southern Cal fished more surface plugs not the heavy lead jigs designed to get to the bottom fast and stay there. As I recall Bob started doing it around 1968 but could have been sooner than that. I'd been fishing with my grandfather on the Lady Jane since I was six and thought my self quite the expert you know. That's when Bob grabbed me one day and began to "show me how to fish". That was 70ish so I would have been 9 or so. But Bob and the crews were showing people how to do it every day and it was so much more fun than the 1lb sinkers. Best of all you could fish the other side of the boat, into the drift, where less people fished because their ganions would go under the boat. But one could cast the jig into the drift where there was no one to tangle up with, hook up and get back to the boat before the boat and other lines drifted over it. So it caught on fast. They carried alot more people back then overall but more per trip too. Can you imagine trying to fish with 65 people on a 65 ft. boat? They did it all the time. 49 is the max load these days and that's crowded. Bob educated thousands in jig fishing before he died in 78 and though lots of people (professionals) were doing it Bob pretty much got the credit if for no other reason than he was so passionate about it and showed so many other people how to fish that way.
Rita on the Big Mama (Fiesta) 1982 |
B. A. STEWART (Proline231_stella_maris)
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Freindly Question Darby? did they really consider it new???
maybe A Diamond Jig Or a Chrome Hex Sinker Didnt count in their "jigs/Plugs" scenario?
I Know of several people who fished them out of avila/PSL and Virgs Boats out of Morro in the 60s and likely before.
of course sometimes they were used mainly for weight on a 3 to 6 hook gangion.but not all.
We often considered 8-16 oz chrome jigs "ling" jigs. One freind made his own from copper pipe filled with lead cut at angles and polished or painted. Or do they mean just single lure fishing with Candybar/Salas/Taddy type jigs etc?
We fished a lot in the 70s with mainly just a 10 oz bridgeport diamond jig, we didnt like bringing up 1+ pounds of lead and 5 bluefish at once. But it tis interenting that it might have been considered an innovation. didnt many members here fish some kindof single lure
before 1978?? chime in guys? Was the article trying to make a story out of nothing? or Was the jig that uncommon? I do andmit I havent fished a lot of them with what i would consider "plugs" , at least intentionally
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