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Cracka (Jim_g)
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Post Number: 298
Registered: 3-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 5:01 pm: | |
Decided to go with the twin motor set up....since the boat will be in the shop anyway, is adding a flow scan worth the extra money? |
Cracka (Jim_g)
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Post Number: 297
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 4:57 pm: | |
DEVIL DOG: I sent you a responce to your post...check your cell phone.. |
Darin Lake (Blue_maverick)
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Registered: 5-2009
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 10:30 am: | |
Will, Thanks for the information I will give it a try. I will let you know how we do. Also would like to thank everyone on this site for giving out information and helping newbies like myself have enjoyable fishing trips. I will be out there on Sunday trying to rip some lips. Thanks again to everyone.
Darin |
Dave Pratt (My_three_sons)
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Post Number: 114
Registered: 4-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 9:58 am: | |
Robert, may want to wait 'til Sunday; tomorrow doesn't look good and it's blowing pretty good out there right now, and will through tonight. |
Robert Grillo (Devildog)
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Post Number: 29
Registered: 12-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 8:29 am: | |
Lookin to fish San Miguel this week. All these damn closures here and there is like walking through a mine field. I glad the fish huggers are not pipe fitters, it would be more like spriklers. they aren't pipe fitters, just pipe smokers. |
Robert Grillo (Devildog)
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Post Number: 28
Registered: 12-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 8:20 am: | |
Hey Jimmy, Look guy keep the money in your pocket ( or new diapers for the kid). I will never leave an area without you. If speed is the issue, we can run side by side if you want... I"ll just run with my kicker so you can keep up. |
Will Bateman (Willbateman)
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Post Number: 359
Registered: 7-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 7:53 am: | |
Blue,
Lots of halibut in sandy areas on the edge of structure or where there are scattered boulders and sand. Look for signs of bait also. I would fish in more sheltered areas around 60-80 feet deep. It is a little tougher without live bait, but I have caught them plenty of times on fish traps.. |
Darin Lake (Blue_maverick)
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 9:35 pm: | |
Was planning on going down to Ragged Point this Sunday weather permitting. Has anbody fished for halibut between there and Morro Bay. Might try if we can get our Rock Cod limits early. New to halibut fishing and sure would like to give it a try. Sounds pretty fun. |
Melvin Rosario (Simnala)
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 7:37 pm: | |
I'll be in Morro Bay on Sunday for some surf fishing... Does anybody knows about some spot to fish on |
Darby Neil (Darby)
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Post Number: 137
Registered: 8-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 5:42 pm: | |
Great photos!
Here's some good freshwater news.
DFG Announces Changes to List of Water Bodies To Be Stocked
The Department of Fish and Game (DFG) today announced revisions to the list of water bodies that will and will not be stocked. After receiving further data on a number of state water bodies, DFG is adding 21 water bodies to the list of stocked waters and 44 water bodies to the list of waters that will not be stocked. The creation of these lists and the cessation of stocking in some areas is the result of a November 2008 court order.
Additions to the list of stocked waters:
Only one in our county
San Margarita Lake (San Luis Obispo County) |
B. A. STEWART (Proline231_stella_maris)
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Post Number: 63
Registered: 10-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 2:53 pm: | |
Jim, I see why you want more power and why you are maybe leaning toward a twin. 18degree deadrise (I thought that type was much flatter)
3100# dry 114gal fuel=aprox3800# before ice/gear/beer/batteries/anchors crew.
with just 2 guys you probably get 4500-5000#.
130hp is on the small side for that weight if you want to run at less than full throttle to get offshore. and since you already have one 130hp I can see why you are thinking twinning up if you can get a deal on the sibling motor.
If the way you have her rigged is almost underpowwered you are on that fine line of expensive decision making. do you loose plane often or does she hold plane ok? if she does you may be best staying the way you have her until its time to repower and trade up to a bigger single then.? |
Will Bateman (Willbateman)
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Post Number: 358
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 2:22 pm: | |
Could not resist one more for the kayakers out there.. |
Will Bateman (Willbateman)
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Post Number: 357
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 2:02 pm: | |
OK, here is the proof.
Will |
Eddie Wong (Jigstrike)
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Registered: 6-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 1:18 pm: | |
I've lost plenty of salmon in the past to those furbags off avila. I wish there was as many men in the gray suits there as at Guadalupe island. Course I've lost a few yellowfin tuna to those sharkies too. The furbags tick me off more cause they toss'em up in the air. |
Dennis Niehus (Chiefkneeus75)
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 12:11 pm: | |
1988 Aboard USS Ranger Off Diego Garcia, ( Yes sir-ree 4 day liberty on Diego Gracia, ship supplied beer, steaks, potato Salaid, hot dogs & burgers)On one of the evenings after dark, a LCV was returing with Liberty crew & had several men that took the Special Services boats deep sea fishing for the day. They were returning with lots of large Seabass and some other assortment of nice sized fish. The Officer of Deck would not let men return aboard with catch, some of the fish had been in the sun many hours and he did not want contaminated fish aboard Several of the buddies helped throw the fish over the side and a few of the drunks dove over to retreive their catch. The blowhorn from the ships fantail ordered the swimmers back to the Shuttle after climbing the cargo nets and sitting up on the rails w/ much fussing and cussing, within a few minutes two Great whites appeared. We could see them very clearly with the Bright lights from the ship. you could almost see thru the beautiful blue water to the white sandy bottom below. THe monster great white ( a smaller one shadowed below him must been 16 - 20) but the big guy fitted the movie jaws, his dorsal fin was a minimum 3' out out of the water as he vaccumed up the floating fish on the surface.His mouth was huge! Need not say, everyone on that landing craft sobbered up in a hurry.
The OOD waited 15 minutes after the sharks left before allowing the crew to return aboard fearing if one of the men might slip and fall in. This is a Sea Story! one of my Many collected over the years But this was no BS
Chief Niehus
USN Ret. |
Darby Neil (Darby)
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Post Number: 136
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Votes: 11 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 10:17 am: | |
Some of you guys take me way to seriously! If anyone knows how rediculous fishery studies are, I do. And I have had my runins with sharks too. In '84 at Hazard Canyon every one got out of the water rather quickly when two whites nailed seal in the lineup. But they didn't chase us out, fortunately they were preoccupied. Later that afternoon we watched two guys paddle out. The first, a sponger, got a wave inside. The surfer caught the next wave and a shark came out of the water behind the surfer with it's mouth open! And he never saw the shark! Everyone was jumping and yelling so he came in thinking someone was hurt.
Whether or not you knew Randy Frye, you lost a friend when he got hit a few years ago. He was our biggest recreational fishery advocate and probably the most influential at the time.
I'll never let them keep me out of the water but good rule of thumb, if you're going to join the food chain by getting in be ready to get out quick or be faster than the rest! ie, don't swim with the seals in Avila. |
Mike Moore (Legacy) (Moorefish)
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Registered: 5-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 6:58 am: | |
Thanks for the kind thoughts gang. Rebuilt my 41 Volvo so should be back at it soon. Come on albies! ~ <;///>-( |
Greg Smith (Mandella)
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 11:36 pm: | |
Hope you don't mind if I jump in on this whole shark talk you have going on here. According to Sharkresearchcommitee.com, which posts known statistics on shark attacks along the Pacific Coast there were 38 confirmed shark attacks (by all species) from 2000 to present in California. From December to May there were a total of 8 attacks (1 each in January and March. 2 each in December, April and May). In June and July there were 8 (4 for each month). From August through November there were 22 (5 each in August and November and 6 each in September and October), which is more than the entire total for the rest of the year in a span of only four months! Only two confirmed attacks happened in SLO County, the fatal attack in late August 2003 at Avila Beach and a surfer at Pismo Beach in early October 2004. I started surfing in the Red Triangle up North where they get attacks at a greater frequency than here during a larger part of the year but have known more people who have seen white sharks around here than I ever knew up there in Marin County. That and almost all of the encounters with white sharks chasing surfers around seem to be from August till about November. I saw a shark fin (about a foot of wedge fin grayish-brown color) surfing A-Beach one evening about 5 years ago but it was fortunately going away from me! |
David Martines (Sangria)
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 10:20 pm: | |
Yeah Doug....I don't believe that gal that was bitten nearly in half right in the bay in Avila not long ago was wearing a skirt or purse.... |
Cracka (Jim_g)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 10:05 pm: | |
Here is the link to his particular boat.
http://www.pacificboats.com/pacboats_017.htm |
Cracka (Jim_g)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 9:57 pm: | |
Marty, B.A. and Michael, Thank you for your input I will forward it to my son (We share this account). The problem we have encountered over the past two years with this boat is that the original owner custom ordered it with every option but started at the front of the boat and by the time he got to the transom he ran out of money and had to stay with the stock Honda 130 HP four stroke. It has a top speed of about 25 miles an hour. My son of course wants more speed. We have found another Honda 130 that matches the motor already on the boat. He and I both like to have two of everything on a boat (gps units, marine radios and such) I would say the deciding factor is that he could double his horse power for about a third the price of a single large motor. I have been told that if you were to run two motors at the 3500 rpm range instead of a single in the 5000 rpm range, you would not see much change in the fuel economy. However, I do not know if he would find an increase in overall speed.
Thank you all for your assistance in making an informed decision. |
Marty C. (Boatdock)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 7:55 pm: | |
Jim-
I've installed/rigged quite a few twin installations over the last 10yrs and main problems we've had are weight and fuel economy.
With twins you have more drag due to the engines not being in complete sync all the time. I've had better luck with single installations with a high thrust kicker for a backup power or trolling if preferred. With the reliability of the 4-strokes these days twin installs are an option only for cats (my opinion)
I am partial to Suzuki (dealer) and have few commercial fishermen out there with 3 to 4k + hours on them and still running strong. Sorry if this sounds like a sales pitch, I do not mean it to be. I just wanted to pass a little experience. If you have any questions call me at the boatyard.
Marty |
Chip Tamagni (Fishfitr)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 7:13 pm: | |
Jeff, I'll kayak in Avila with Scott. We have done quite well down there recently (last year). But no on the float tubes. There was a story (true) about a lady who got attacked at the islands in a yak. She was lucky. We are sharken it on Sat. in the bay for fun (by boat). |
Cracka (Jim_g)
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Post Number: 294
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 7:02 pm: | |
twin Honda 130 4 strokes on a 23' Pacific Aluminum center console |
Marty C. (Boatdock)
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Post Number: 39
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 6:53 pm: | |
Well it's been a slow week boatwise, due to the
wind. We've launched just a handful of boats but, they have managed to get half limits of rockcod before the blow. We did have 6 nice halibut caught since Sunday with largest being 23.3 lbs. (today) These guys were were fishing for rockcod. Looks like a good weekend coming up
variable winds on Sunday. We'll be opening at 5:30am. (6am on windy days)
Marty |
Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 5:31 pm: | |
Jimmy
spend some of that money you made last week , put a 300hp zuki on that sled. |
B. A. STEWART (Proline231_stella_maris)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 4:47 pm: | |
TWINS VS LARGE SINGLE. Lots of variables but in general &Outboards in particular.
Pros, big #1 propulsion redundancy, commonality of parts (1 spare part can often "back up" 2 motors),ability to throttle steer, less likely to be stranded by certain other types of failures and accidents.more prop blade area, ability to put more total power on a vessel in some but not all cases. twin charging systems as well. resale value may be higher. sometimes lower minimum planning speed.
Cons, Complexity, Initial Cost, Drag, Weight ,reduced fuel efficiency,reduced top speed with equal power, running on single may not plane boat and prop never optimum running on 1 engine mode, twice as much running gear to get tangled or struck, crowded transom well or bracket. reduced range, may troll too fast(older 2 strokes)for some fishing, false sense of security for some, control complexity, instrumentation complexity, transom stress,syncrhonization issues, update costs, and of course maintenance.
The BIG Pro of redundancy often outweighs the numerous lesser cons and often the big con-Cost. A lot of otherthings matter. nowadays very few people put on twin 50s or twin 75s , you are often far better off with a 150 and a "kicker" or some such combo but there is a place for those still. If you have a Big outboard boat like you see in the Gulf and Fla it is normal to see twin 150s/ twin 200s/or even 250s and now some 275/300 rigs but at one time
if you wanted 300+hp you HAD to go twins as 250 was the biggest common single. what kind of rig are you thinking of where this is a decding factor?? In aviation I have been told that "Slow Twins" are among the most undesireable combos becasue they are the worst of both worlds, woefully underpowered on one and high cost/compexity always. probaly not the same in boats but on small boats close to port a larger single normally seems to make the most sense.
specify your combo and you will get more feedback. hope this is some help |
Doug Elterman (Douge)
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Votes: 4 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 2:33 pm: | |
For those who fear going in the ocean or fishing from a kayak, I can appreciate your concern. I've been surfing this coast for over 30 years and fishing from a kayak for more that 9. I've seen nearly form of sea life come to the surface but never a GW. Yes, they are out there and I would be naive if I said for a second they weren't. I've only spoken to one person that's had an incident with a toothy customer but, even still, he never saw a fin. Take off you skirt and put down your purse. We all have a card with our number on it and you have a better chance having that number punched while in your car. Live life and when you get home, you'll feel much better knowing you did! If you're wondering, the majority of my kayak fishing is done north of Cayucos but, I do go out off of Spooners too. |
Michael T. Horton (Reddog)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 1:51 pm: | |
Jim. I fish with a single 50hp. I wish I had twin 30's so if one quits I would still have power. Down side twice the mataince. |
Cracka (Jim_g)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 1:31 pm: | |
General Question: Can anyone tell me the pro's / cons of going with twin engins vrs a single large outboard... |
Jeff Bishop (Jeff_b)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 12:16 pm: | |
Chip,does that mean that you aren,t game to float tube fish with Scott & me again?Darby, I recall Billy G. telling me he would not even kayak in the drink because of the stuff he had seen. maybe he was just pulling my leg, but it did not feel that way at the time. Jeff |
Dave (Antikbuff)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 11:34 am: | |
Anybody interested in this stuff ???
All items are extra-large:
7 mm NeoSport farmer john suit
5 mm Bare hood with zipper back
5 mm Bare gloves with kevlar palms
5 mm Deep See boots with zippers and hard soles
Sherwood Kinesis open heel fins
Neosport lycra rash guard
Extra-large Akona SCUBA bag. Fits all of the above and then some.
6 pocket weight belt. |
David Martines (Sangria)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 10:45 am: | |
Sharks and I have an understanding....I don't go in the water, and they don't come on my boat... |
Will Bateman (Willbateman)
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 9:22 am: | |
My 2 cents: I was chased into the beach and almost eaten by a giant white shark in July at Solana Beach in 1969. I will never forget that scene. That monster came after me until it grounded itself in the shallows. Every time I surf I keep a keen eye out. Only time I have seen another one was in the 80's off of Moonstone Beach at the Santa Rosa Creek mouth. Yikes! I feel much safer in a boat...
Will |
van barbieri (Narcd)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 8:35 am: | |
If you look closely at that report on the White Sharks you will see that most of the sharks making the offshore migration are 430 cm plus (14foot) adults. The ones I have seen captured here, and all but a few of the sharks we filmed at Guadalupe Island were 10 to 12 foot adolescents, 800 to 1000 lbs. These may not migrate to breed. Although few and far between I believe you can encounter a large White Shark off Calif at any time of the year. |
Chip Tamagni (Fishfitr)
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 6:38 am: | |
Come on Darby, tell that story to the next family who loses a member swimming around the Avilla pier in July. Anytime we get that thick bait in, the sea lions and seals will follow. They in turn get followed by the grinners. I have one general rule regarding the ocean. I don't swim in it unless my life depends on it. Being eaten by a shark, however low the probability, is a risk I choose not to take. |
steve mcgill (4baja)
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 7:41 pm: | |
sorry darby but after seeing many great whites feeding from piedras blancas south while wind surfing between april through july(83-04) i would say that that data sucks. seeing dead elephant seals on the beach and getting chased out of the water one year by a whitey(july) realy makes me want to jump back in. i remember my dad being a part of the dive clubs here back in the 60,s along with wink(sea wink) and billy and being pinned down by great whites off montana de ora while scuba diveing for fish and scallops. i believe there there year round and i have a great respect for them. now i mostly dive in the baja and have to deal with bull sharks but at least the water is warm. |
Darby Neil (Darby)
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 7:14 pm: | |
THERE ARE NO WHITE SHARKS ON THE CALIFORNIA COAST!! I was diving off San Miguel Island last month with Steve Gade the science teacher at the High School and looking over my shoulder the whole time. If you have ever dove the open water, west end high spots you’ll know what I mean. Of course he didn’t bother to tell me about this study until after 3 dives!! I quote, “A recent study has shown 3 out of four white sharks prefer crest!” Oops, sorry, here it is, “Satellite telemetry studies of 20 adult and subadult white sharks (360–530 cm estimated total length (TL)) in the eastern North Pacific during 1999–2005 revealed long distance seasonal migrations from the coast of California to an offshore focal area 2,500 km west of the Baja Peninsula, as well as the Hawaii Islands. . . .”
The conclusion is there are no white sharks off the coast of California April- July, most congregate here November – February for the sea lion festival and the rest the time they are in transit to or from the “White shark diner” somewhere between Baja and the Hawaiian islands! Even if there were a few stragglers around that makes me feel much better, for at least for half the year.
Here’s the full report.
http://www.topp.org/sites/topp.org/files/topp/publications/whitesharkw engetal.pdf
DAVE - GREAT POST!! |
Nick Chamness (Twinfin)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 4:20 pm: | |
Wow! You guys are awesome! The whole bounceball thing seems like it takes a lot of practice. The 2 foot rule sounds pretty good as well. Its pretty exciting to think you could catch all of those other species. Now it is just a matter of finding the honey holes. I guess I have to pound a lot of sand and let the rig down slowly to avoid tangles. Weather looks good this weekend! Thanks to everybody for providing all the advice. I am in the 15ft gregor baja special...on the back it says "if you can't surf it, fish it". |
Wes (Slotroller)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 1:43 pm: | |
Great info John, Harrell and Dave! Where else would such accomplished fishermen share info so freely? You guys are examples here! |
Marty Johnson (Dogpro)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 1:00 pm: | |
I want to thank everybody for all the great information....We have a great bunch of fisherman in this area and everybody shares so willingly...Thank you. |
Gene Doughty (Landsea_interface)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 11:17 am: | |
JEFF I spoke with my brother this morning, He tells me that the eastern Pacific around here is slightly warmer this past winter( Nov.-Feb.). He also thinks that this thermocline may be thin. What with the quick cooling from these winds. But we both think that we will have a better albacore season than of the last few years. Pollution plays a factor I think. There has been a few bluefin caught south of San Diego already. and in the past there has been a early bite in June. We're not far off. time to get that offshore boat ready. |
Dave Pratt (My_three_sons)
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 9:53 am: | |
When i had my commercial license bounce balling was my ticket to riches...NOT!!!!
Anyway....good info here....I've been bouncing for years and the biggest cause of tangled rigs (besides dogfish and threshers) is dropping the rig too quickly. Remember when we all used sinker releases for salmon, and we "pulled" the line out of the reel ("the fish are at 40 pulls" we would say)? That's the way I always lower my gear....in pulls. Never tangled.
Also....use the rule of "two." Two feet between between swivel and dodger, two feet between swivel and cannonball, and two feet between dodger and rigged hootchie or straight bait.
You can always experiment with the length between dodger and bait....less than two feet can offer more action, but two feet is a fine length at which to start.
I fish a Torium 30...used to fish Penn 4/0's back in the day, but the drags got sticky as i'm not the best at tackle upkeep. Sticky drags will lose you halibut, especially biggies.
50 pound spectra straight to the three way swivel. 50 pound mono from swivel to dodger, 50 mono from dodger to hootchie. 25lb mono to the two pound cannonball....breaks off easier on snags than 50!
On average days when you're fishing in 75 feet a 2lb ball will work fine, but 3's can be used when deeper or in more current.
Do not let the ball drag....finding the right "bounce" takes plenty of practice....so constantly adjust depth!
Careful of sharp turns!
Do not be afraid of gravelly or semi-rocky areas...don't think that these fish are all on pure, virginal sand.
You will pick up eelgrass and weeds, so be vigilant, and learn the action of your rod tip...it will tell you all sorts of things, even how hard the bottom is.
Rod holders are convenient, but avoid them as you are learning....you need to understand all the nuances of the way things feel....
When you find one fish, work that area. Often bites come in flurries...three or five fish in an hour, the rest of the day nothing.
You can catch anything bounceballing...I've caught salmon, threshers, lings, white seabass, black seabass, the list goes on.
I use my Honda 20 kicker at just over idle speed, usually around a knot and a half.
Fight a fish with the boat in gear...it will plane up behind the boat and offer the easiest target for the gaff.
Big models will freak out when they get close to the hull, even after dogging it prior to that. Be ready. Negotiate with the fish...do not try to be the boss. Until that fish is over the rail, it is the boss.
Remember...there is no stretch in 50lb spectra and that fish WILL violently headshake and dodge at the boat...adjust your drag accordingly and be ready to give the rod tip to the fish...or else that fish is gone.
Sardines in pearl white hoochies are my favorite down here along the coast...squid attracts the trash like dogfish but can work in a pinch....sardines and squid work well at the islands. Often a straight bait, no hootchie, is the ticket. Experiment.
Also experiment with depth...I tend to start around 70, and prospect anywhere from 55 to 100.
Threshers will destroy your gear, as will soupfins.
Finally, bounce balling is deadly...and when the big girls are egg laden you can do some real damage...take what you can eat, and don't get greedy! |
HARRELL KIMBALL (Catmakai)
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WEATHER
John (PG&E) and the computer models indicate the wind will be coming down saturday with sunday, monday and tuesday looking good for a longer run to the fish. |
John Usilton (Teachers_pet)
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There are days when a small 6in flasher work and days dodgers seem to be the ticket...when you use a dodger it can not roll over..it needs to swing from side to side you will have to slowwwww down and get that dodger swingin...a hot spot flasher rotates..you need to go fast enough to roll that flasher...I do not mix trolling a dodger on one pole and a flasher on another ...running a straight bait works somedays as well...I run 60 spectra to a threeway and a 20lb dropper to the weight needed to keep the rig close to the bottom....about two feet...I have a bunch of 8oz 1and 2lb weihgts...I run a 4 foot 60lb test leader to the attracter, the leader is also 60lb to a large hootchy....a larger bait will require a shorter leader to make it active....You need to watch your rig and make sure it moves correctly as you trol then let it down slow until you tap bottom hold it let it down again as you move and let it down a third time and you should bet set...set your next line and check you first pole and tap the bottom..if it drags it will get messed up....the fish will come up and hit it....pick a depth and troll on that line... moving in and out reqires to much adjusting..troll at 50' then try 40' etc....I like to find the depth and then work that hard...White and Purple haze are the main hootchy but other colors have there days....I do not use less then 60lb. If you get a monster you will be glad you have the bigger line.We have also caught Theashers to 200 lbs on this rig along with salmon and white seabass....hope this helps good luck..John |
HARRELL KIMBALL (Catmakai)
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Right Chip, I got it reversed. Dodgers are the ticket. One other thing, if you have big live bait, sardines, mackerel or brown bait use a long leader 5-6- ft. |
Chip Tamagni (Fishfitr)
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Don't flashers aka "hotspot" spin and dodgers wobble??? |
John Moore (Jmoore)
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Nick, Harrel,s info is right on. Most of the tangles come from leting the tackle drop to fast. As the rig drops the flasher and hoochie must not trail upwards and tangle with the main line. Practice thumbing the spool at a slow constant speed or pull out line like salmon fishing until you hit the bottom and then continue to let enough line out until your wieght keeps in contact with the bottom. This is done with the boat moving of course. If you have to keep leting out more line every so often to keep on bottom use more weight. Letting out to much line can cause a large belly of line to develop which can create enough lift to keep the rig from staying on the bottom no to mention having to reel up all that extra line when checking your gear.
Mike, We have 8 personnel from our department on the fire. Looks like it's going to be another tough year. Hope there will be at least a little time for fishing.
Dave, It's been tough for you guys down in SB as far as the fires last two years. Sorry for your freinds who lost their homes.
Lets all hope the wind will lay down so we can get out there. |
Johnny Grubb (Big_fatty)
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Jeff
Check out this article on solar/lunar fish activity. Interesting to say the least.
http://www.weather.com/activities/recreation/outdoors/fishing/fishinga rticle.html?from=fishing_forecast |
Marty Johnson (Dogpro)
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Thank you Harrell...on #2,.......keep that weight dragging on the bottom? Or just keep touch with the bottom, literally bouncing it periodically? |
HARRELL KIMBALL (Catmakai)
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Bounce balling tips that have worked for me.
1. Troll as slow as your boat will go.
2. Use enough weight to stay dragging the bottom.
3. Use flashers not dodgers as dodgers spin in full circles
4. Rule of thumb for hoochie leader is twice the length of the flasher.
5. Three way swivel on the line with 18-24 inch leader on the weight.
6. At least 3 ft of leader from the swivel to the flasher.
7. I like a hoochovie for bait.
8. I also like to use a salmon release on the weight so that when you get bit it is just you and the butt.
9. Keep your eye on the pole tip as the smaller ones will be riding for free after the initial strike. |
Marty Johnson (Dogpro)
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Thanks Nick...I have my hoochies tied at 15 to 16 inches..and the diagram that I have shows me to run the flasher 3 feet back from the swivel...my weight on a 16 to 24 inch dropper... Any advice from anybody else? Hey Darby!!! Go out with me on my boat and help me figure this out...  |
Jeff Horton (Seaweed)
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Gene in a nut shell did that post mean the ocean is starting to warm by the changing current?? |
Nick Chamness (Twinfin)
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Well I did some research at http://bestofbiggame.com/ as this guy appears to be a reputable bounce baller out of San Diego. He is always posting on bloodydecks with some impressive halibut catches. I know I was using too much weight. At big 5 I had the choice between 2X8 oz weights or the 48 oz salmon weight. I was thinking it would be too much, but thought I would give it a shot because too much seemed better than not enough. After having used a wide range of weights, 24 and 32oz seem to be the best depending on current.
Also, I think having the flasher hooked up right at the 3 way swivel instead of using a leader makes it more prone to tangles. The last thing I learned, is that it is important to have the flasher about 18 inches from the hoochie. Too far and the hoochie just does not seem to have enough action.
Hopefully next time I will get it wired. On another note, my buddy entered the thresher tourney at the oceanside anglers club. He nailed a 240lber by 930am only to get bumped by a couple in the mid to high 300's. Oh well. After splitting the bounty, he says he has some steaks for me...i know what I am having for dinner tonight! |
Marty Johnson (Dogpro)
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What are some hints for a first time out bounce balling? Why was Nick getting his flasher tangled?...Nick, how much weight were you fishing...What is the suggested depth for this time of year? |
Dustin DesJardins (Farmerd)
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Good to see you made it off the mountain Mike, that was an ugly one.
Was worried about you Dave ... Was going to ring you but figured you were busy helping others evacuate, never once thought it would be YOU having to leave Casa De Red Cup. Glad you two are safe and sound ..... ISLANDS? |
Nick Chamness (Twinfin)
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Fished Port San Luis in the skiff yesterday. Still trying to master the bounceballing rig (flasher kept getting tangled). Gave up after a bit and caught a few small rockfish. Pretty empty out there, but a beautiful day. Gave a guy a ride to his moored boat and in the process of talking to him and launching off of the crane I forgot the the good old plug. Thanks to the guy (forget his name) for getting the plug in there just in time.
When I got back, some guy had nailed a 26lb hali on a little bass setup. After all my tangles I was envious. |
Dave Pratt (My_three_sons)
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Hey Mikey....all of us down here in SB owe you so much gratitude...I have never seen a fire blow up like this one did....it was like being in hell. I was evacuated from my house but it remained safe and untouched, yet i have a number of friends who lost everything.
The mutual aid response was sensational, and I thank you.
I owe you a red cup, brother! A few of 'em!
Dave |
Gene Doughty (Landsea_interface)
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All that was from my brother John of JD'S BIG GAME FISHING (Newport) .Hope you guys can figure it out. All I want is that tight line. |
Gene Doughty (Landsea_interface)
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EL NI�O/SOUTHERN OSCILLATION (ENSO) DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION ENSO Alert System Status: Final La Ni�a Advisory Synopsis: ENSO-neutral conditions are expected to continue into the Northern Hemisphere Summer.
During April 2009, the equatorial Pacific Ocean transitioned from La Ni�a to ENSO-neutral conditions, ending the 2008-09 La Ni�a. Negative sea surface temperature (SST) anomalies weakened across the equatorial Pacific Ocean and positive anomalies developed in areas of the eastern Pacific Correspondingly, the latest weekly SST indices were near zero in all Ni�o regions. Subsurface oceanic heat content anomalies became positive for the first time since mid-August 2008, reflecting an eastward spread of above-average temperatures near thermocline depth Collectively, these oceanic and atmospheric anomalies are consistent with a transition to ENSO-neutral conditions. Based on current observations, recent trends, and model forecasts, ENSO-neutral conditions are expected to continue into the Northern Hemisphere Summer |
Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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JEFF
Thats just what my wife said , I really dont hold to much in that , I think it was more like Big surf , sets so close together, and the water is super cold , I dont remember ever being cold in may , I think the water is at 50 .
I think in the fresh water the fish may feed more on a full moon, Im sure there are some guys on here that have an opinion also.
I also broke one of my cardinal rules yesterday I was fishing to early , I was fishing at noon the high was not till 1630 , I usally fish the last one or two before the high.
Who knows , maybe them bloody sand worms are worn out.
Blackie |
Jeff Horton (Seaweed)
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Blackie do you think the full moon could have anything to do with no fish? |
Jeff Horton (Seaweed)
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Mike I drove thru S.B. on wed and that fire seemed to be making wind on the 101. As soon as I was away from the fire wind died off. I never saw fire run down hill that way. On way back on Thursday I was lucky the fire wasn't quite to the 154. My Nephew is down there now part of inspection team from SLO.
Great Job hope you guys can keep it contained soon. |
billie e. whitted (Bassattack)
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hey mike,
just want to tell you and all the other fire fighters out there thanks for all you do. you have a tough job , and i know there are not that many thanks. thanks for all the hard work. and i hope your friend all are fine. |
Mike Moore (Legacy) (Moorefish)
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Bluefin in one day range. Grande on an overnight bird watching trip caught a bluefin tuna within 1-day range today. They didn't have live bait.
http://www.976-tuna.com/e107_plugins/landing/audio.php?btrack.5.124199 9123 |
Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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FORGOT THE PERCH REPORT
THERE AINT ANY
gave litle pico ,Santa Rosa and looked at cay , said self just go home and get in the HOT TUB , before that drove thru MB parking lot it was deserted.
Ocean was very rough , wind onshore , water was clear , just no fish .
Blackie |
Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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GOOD job mike you guys did a hell of a job in containing that monster as soon as you did.
Hopefully you Buds will be OK
Blackie |
Mike Moore (Legacy) (Moorefish)
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Just back from spending 5-days on the Jesusipta fire in Santa Barbara. We made a stand at the peak of the event and saved 8 homes with no injuries but some of our other strike team members from Ventura County Fire weren't so fortunate. Four sustained injuries including one who had second and third degree burns. Another burn victim who fishes with me had second degree burns so he will only require one surgery. Thanks to the guys at the hospital and burn centers. Seems a bit early for brush as it's barely May. |
Johnny Grubb (Big_fatty)
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Kevin
Thanks for the rod info, glad I just got another Kencor before they went out of business. I'll check out the Okuma. Stop by sometime. |
Stacey Meacham (Stacey)
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Bob Gannon,
I have a few questions about your old skipjack. If you would please email me @ seacretweapon@charter.net, I'll ask you outside the fr board.
thanks |
HARRELL KIMBALL (Catmakai)
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Jack;
What I look for is the 58-62 degree water to come out of the southwest with plumes aimed at Pt. Buchon and be pretty clean. The last two years it has stayed way west of us and hit the Oregon coast. The upwelling is great for bait and etc. but it keeps the LFT on the outside of it, so we need clean water inside 50 miles. These first shots look good this early so there is reason for optimism but time will tell. |
Jack Gordano (Sixpak)
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Harrel if you look at this current chart and compare it with the last few years the Pacific Ocean as a whole is warmer this year than the past few years for the same time period. Atleast the conditions are different. Does this mean they will make a showing this year? Your guess is as good as mine.http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/climo.html |
Ryan Taylor (Wildrt)
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micheal sutton should go to jail, thanks for the link. if you care anything about fishing, read the article... its a slap in the face. |
Cloud (Cloud)
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Mel-read the Sutton complaint-all of it. Standing ovation.
MLPA: A corrupt process stealing freedom & recreational opportunities from law abiding citizens everywhere.
Cloud out |
Kevin Piper (Sparks)
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Johnny,
Sorry to here that Kencor is out of business, good rod.
The one from 4 Seasons is an Okuma (Convector series) it was less expensive than the Kencor but still a great rod for Kayak fishing (nice and short).
Kevin |
