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Dustin DesJardins (Farmerd)
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Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 7:58 am:   

http://www.stanford.edu/group/Palumbi/Lastfish.html

Steve Palumbi the master mind of MPA's has realy outdone himself this time.

HOW FAR WILL THEY GO? ... Wonder when we hear this on the next tv commercial?
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Stacey Meacham (Stacey)
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Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 6:02 am:   

Mel,
If you'd like to read the TT article, here's the link

http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanluisobispotribune/10747630.htm

later, Stacey
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Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 11:04 pm:   

Friends:

Let me add some information to Bob Hather's post below:

I am up in Northern California and have not seen the Telegram Tribune article, but Bob Hather tells me that the local "Regional Water Quality Control Board" wants to create a marine preserve (no-fish zone) in an area up to 5 1/2 miles north of Diablo Canyon, up to Pt. Buchon. Here are my points:

1. It is not going to happen.
2. RWQCB has no power or authority to implement fishing regulations. Only the State Fish & Game Commission can make fishing policy in Calif. state waters.
3. I talked TODAY to a friend who is the head of the marine division for Fish & Game Dept. and he said that local RWQCB has NO AUTHORITY, NO POWER, AND NO JURISDICTION to create any no-fish zones on the Central Coast. Only the Fish & Game Commission has that power ... and only the Fish & Game Dept. ENFORCES Commission Policy. He said that this suggestion by RWQCB staff is of no force or effect. He says that his department has told this local RWQCB that no-fish zones are NOT A VIABLE OPTION FOR THE PG&E REMEDIATION MONEY!
4. Fish & Game has indicated a willingness to send a letter to RWQCB telling them that this staff suggestion is not possible and they have no power to implement this suggestion. I am hopeful that we will be able to present this letter to the RWQCB at the scheduled meeting in Moss Landing next Tuesday.

I will keep you posted.

We are working for fishermen and need your support. We will have a fund-raiser dinner at Avila Yacht Club on March 12 and another fund-raiser dinner at Morro Bay soon (more info on that later.) Please support the CCFCC that is fighting for your fishing rights. Contact Bob Hather about the Avila Yacht Club dinner for details.

Mel
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Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 8:23 pm:   

I just reviewed some of the data from the MIG on board rockfish assesment comparing 2004 to 2003 and earlier and the catch per hour effort is improving. The RWQB"s staff recomendation to midigate PG&E's outflow by closing fishing from the Diablo Plant north 5.5mi will not happen. CCFCC is working very hard for us in the backround to insure that a closure is not an option. Come support us in Avila on March 12th.
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Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 6:17 pm:   

RE:the tribune article reguarding diablo ocean remedy, I have fished that area for quite a number of years and have noticed a change in the fish that are there and a change in the species that seem to like it there.
I dont seee any lack of fish in fack I think its "new" ecosystem seems to support the fish that are there quite well and to change it might be a mistake, as would their tennetive plan to keep us from fishing in their no- fish zones why should we have to pay for their mistakes and let them off the hook, its a bunch of crap
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Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 12:01 pm:   

With the up-coming salmon season approaching, I had a question as to what lb. test line others use for their trolling and mooching rigs.
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Darby Neil (Darby)
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Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 9:35 am:   

Surf perch are BITING! My crew has been fishing North of the rock, the old standard oil pier and San Carporphoho for 25 to 50 pounds a wack. Mud shrimp are working best for bait. Get a commercial license if you want more than 5 fish. Used to be 20 fish but thanks to another one of F&G Commission reductions that slipped through without notice we get five now to protect the red tail perch in far Northern Ca. No reduction in commercial take so now we get the license and take more & sell the extras.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 9:12 pm:   

Thanks for the info Steve. May need to try it a couple of ways depending on water color.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 8:10 pm:   

Gary,
I've had my best luck trolling with hoochies and a flasher (hotspot). Bait works well, but they seem to miss it a lot. My take down to hook up ratio is much better with hoochies. Some guys do really well on Apex or other types of spoons. My favorite is purple haze hoochie and red hotspot flasher on the downrigger. Last year some guys were swearing by a green apex or hoochie and green flasher. Diver work well too, just don't get as deep.
best fishes,
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Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 1:53 pm:   

Hey Guys;
anyone out there that knows of a good outboard mechanic, besides the Boat Doc or Port side marine , (they already tried,) this is on a yamaha 9.9 four stroke.
Blackie Sr
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Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 9:21 pm:   

http://www.bayareafishing.com/salmon_o.htm
Would anybody have a preference for Ocean Salmon based on these three rigs for fishing around the Central Coast?
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Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 7:15 pm:   

Never mind, I found it. One rod north of Point Conception.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 7:07 pm:   

There is Halibut out there. Has anybody been fishing for them? We've heard nothing about what fish we CAN fish for. How's the Surf Perch and the Bass? Let's go get'm before they take them away too! I'm trying to find the best set up for Ocean Salmon, (opening April 2nd). The regs say two barbless hooks on one line. Can we have more than one rod in the water? Can anybody tell me what a good set up would be for trolling? This will be my first time fishing for Salmon.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 4:25 pm:   

might be that the fish and game wants to eliminate fishermen and they want to use sharks as their weapon????
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Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 9:07 pm:   

The sealion population is up. Shark sightings and attacks are up. And you can spear fish all year long. Thanks DFG for throwing me a bone.
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Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 8:48 pm:   

Yes the regs are too restrictive. The 2004 rockfish assessment done from Patriot and Virg's by the MIG and Cal Poly indicate the catch per hour effort has improved this year over last. Last week I pointed out in the interview with the Baselines camera crew that the sealion population has exploded over the past 20 years which attests to the health of our waters. They were quite moved by the fact (quote from Mel) that the sealions eat 50 times the biomass harvested by fishermen annually every day. Please lend the CCFCC all the suport you can to so that their volunteer effort can press for reasonable fishing and marine management. We advocate that sport fishermen have no measurable adverse impact on the rock fishery. We would prefer a 12 month season and first ten fish limit. There will be a fundraiser at the Avila Yacht Club Mar 12 at 6PM for 75 people at $100 donation per plate. Auction and raffle. Please contact me for resevations and/or donations. Thanks
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Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 6:07 pm:   

REGULATIONS ARE GETTING OUT OF HAND, AND I THINK ITS A BUNCH OF B.S. IF EVERYONE COULD FISH EVERYWHERE IT WOULD EASE THE PRESSURE ON SPECIFIC AREAS AND SPREAD THE LOAD PROVIDING REASONABLE LIMITS REMAINED IN PLACE
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Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 11:47 am:   

Thanks to the new 2005 regulations kayak fishing for rockfish is no longer allowed. I can paddle out, jump in the water and spear a fish, but I can't sit on my kayak and catch a fish. I enjoy paddling, however I will not be paddling to the 120 foot mark. We are a small number of fishermen that have been completley shut down for this year. Who is next?
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Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 9:52 pm:   

For sale Volvo 5.7 DP transom shield out drive complete 1500 hours. Many spare parts for 5.7 50 hour new Throttle body injection, fuel pumps, starter.
call 805-235-1866
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Jim Lewis (Jimmer)
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Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 9:43 pm:   

Carl, are you working March the 3rd Thursday? that's Fred Hall weekend,let's leave my house early friday if possible...Jimmer


Bloody decks forever!!
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Mike Glick (Riff_raft)
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Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 7:15 pm:   

RE: BUOY MAINTENANCE

ADD THE WEST SANTA BARBARA CHANNEL BUOY TO THE LIST.

WHO SO WE HARRASS ABOUT THIS BS? NOAA?
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Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 6:38 pm:   

The Radon has been sold
Blackie/ SR
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Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 7:12 am:   

RE: BUOY MAINTENANCE
THEY'VE GOT PLENTY OF MONEY TO SLAUGHTER THE IRAQIS
FOR THEIR OIL BUT NO MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF THINGS
HERE AT HOME. BUOYS GOING DOWN, SCHOOLS WITH NO MONEY. YOU GO GEORGE!

4 MORE YEARS!
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Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 - 6:57 pm:   

bouy #46023 is scheduled to be removed after jan. 31, this year. Bouy #46011 wind speed is broke down, that leaves arguello land station at the south end and #46028 to the north, 55 nm nw of morro bay.
pretty sad, all of this technology going to waste
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Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 - 12:48 pm:   

Mel and Bob:

Hot off the press;

Notice from Michael Thomas of the RWQCB:

"Our independent scientists have finalized their recommendation paper regarding mitigation for marine impacts at the Diablo Canyon Power Plant. I will be sending the paper to you and other interested parties in a few days. In the meantime, we have scheduled a technical workgroup meeting for Tuesday, Feb 1, 11am to 4 pm, to discuss the paper and get feedback. The meeting will be at Moss Landing Marine Laboratories in Moss Landing. Please send this notice to those who may be interested in attending as observers.
There will be time scheduled for observers to ask questions or make comments."

I will be out of town on the 1st. We'll see what the "independant scientists" have come to conclude, but I don't think that we have to wonder too much. But maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised, right? I went looking on the RWQCB web site, and of course there is no mention of the meeting or the report. If I were here (I'm heading out on vacation Monday for 2 weeks) I would call Thomas and request the report. So I'll throw that ball in your court.

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Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 - 12:38 pm:   

Several agencies that submitted letters in support of the PSL buoy received replies from Moresdorff (spelling) of the National Data Buoy Center. The gist of it was "it was a Minerals Management Service buoy, and they no longer need it. We have forwarded your letter ..."

In other words, don't hold your breath. Gonna have to get to somebody in NOAA or maybe your Federal politicians to make a go at getting funding for NOAA for the buoy. That's the latest that I have.

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Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 - 8:38 am:   

With things closed down here, I have been watching the sturgeon reports in the Delta. Bob H. and I tried it last week, got skunked, but saw a "small" 60 pounder at the boat launch. Check out the Delta page on usafishing.com.
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Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 - 7:05 am:   

Carl, the Tribune had an article stating that the Port San Luis Weather Buoy had an annual cost of only $16000.
Bob
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Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 4:08 pm:   

Any word regarding the San Luis weather bouy? I was wondering does anyone know how much it would cost to keep the bouy in place?
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Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 3:45 pm:   

Friends:

Let me make another important comment about United Anglers. MPAs are a huge threat to recreational fishing up and down the coast of California. The MLPA process had been put on the back burner in 2003. The environmental groups were hot to continue this process of trying to shut off huge parts of our coast to fishing. SB 1319 was a piece of legislation that allowed environmental groups to fund continuation of the MLPA process.

In July of 2004, all the major recreational fishing groups in California met right here in San Luis Obispo to debate this legislation and its impact on recreational fishing. EVERY SINGLE GROUP ADAMANTLY OPPOSED THIS LEGISLATION .........EXCEPT UNITED ANGLERS. We all see this as a potentially destructive and devastating process. Tom Raftican was unable to point to one single redeeming aspect about the bill. We are all left to speculate why he chose to allign himself with the environmental groups that have always sought our destruction. See the attachment here that explains the CCFCC position about SB 1319. Draw your own conclusions.

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CCFCC position on SB 1319.doc (54.3 k)
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Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 7:04 pm:   

Mel, i think its rather important that you e-mail me or call me regarding randy olsen.
Iwant the best for both worlds and need your input
pleeease?
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Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 8:20 am:   

Thanks Mel, This is worse than the DFG using our money to shut us down.

It appears that they have taken a lot of money from environmental groups to further their campaign.

I have publicly asked Bob O this question and he denied it, there must be a way to verify. Also, UA is blowviating in WON and Allcoast here lately pushing Marine Parks as an alternative to closures - Interesting.
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Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 8:52 pm:   

Friends:

I will try to summarize the situation with United Anglers of Southern California (UASC).

About three years ago when we (CCFCC) were just getting started as a recreational fishing group, we were committed to protecting fishing rights. I went down to Long Beach and met with Tom Raftican (President of UA). He wanted our group to be "affiliated" with UA. I felt that his group was too wishy-washy and unwilling to stand up against enviros or governmental authority in protecting fishing rights. Our group decided NOT TO AFFILIATE WITH UA. We decided that we would try to remain on a cordial basis with this big Southern California fishing organization.

Okay, let's move forward in time. In the last two years, UA has mounted an aggressive campaign to rid the west coast of "bottom trawlers". In concept, this is a very nice position. However, there are not very many bottom trawlers left on the west coast. It is not that big of an issue. Our group has always wondered why UA was spending so much money on this issue ... and not focusing on all the governmental restrictions that are destroying recreational fishing.

In this process of trying eliminate bottom trawlers, UA did something else ... they climbed into bed (so to speak) with environmental groups. Tom Raftican says that the collaboration with these groups has been helpful in ridding the ocean of this destructive fishing technique. It appears that they have taken a lot of money from environmental groups to further their campaign.

Tom Raftican of UA says that his work with environmental groups has been beneficial to recreational fishing. He says that they have big budgets and great organization ... and we will lose if we take them on in a head-to-head battle over fishing rights. Many other fishing groups, including the CCFCC and Recreational Fishing Alliance (RFA) disagree. We know the long "anti-fishing" history of these groups. We believe that you cannot trust these groups as far as you can throw them. They come to UA and Raftican like wolves in sheep's clothing. We will not work with these people who have fought so long for our destruction. They are saying nice things to Raftican now ... but will stab him and his group (UA) in the back when "crunch time" comes.

The Central Coast Fisheries Conservation Coalition (CCFCC) has looked closely at other organizations to see which groups are closest to our philosophy about protecting fishing rights. We believe that RFA is closest to our philosophy and we have officially "affiliated" with this group. We will remain in polite communication with Tom Raftican and UA, but we do not support their projects or their affiliation with avowed anti-fishing groups.

There you have it.


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Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 9:52 pm:   

Badger and others:

I will SOON do a post here and at our web site:

http://righttofish.com/

about the United Anglers problem. It is a very complicated issue and I want to discuss it openly and fairly. Maybe we will even invite Tom Raftican to respond on this chat board ...

Mel
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Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 9:42 pm:   

Friends:
Okay, okay ... we're not perfect. I do see that we have misspelled "RIGHT" in a few places on our web site ... it will be corrected by tomorrow.

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Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 9:18 pm:   

Bob. I have noticed a change in UA this past year and a half by some of their posts on Allcoast, now WON. Seems to me something has dramatically changed. UA may be doing some good but folks want to know who to trust these days and I have to say UA is not speaking for me anymore. Yet I do not want folks supporting them if they are being funded by enviro groups, thanks
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Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 9:15 pm:   

Friends:

Go to http://righttofish.com/

and check out the menu icon labeled MLPA. Under that category read the summary of last Saturday's meeting at the SF Cow Palace with Phil Isenberg (Chairman of the MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force)and Ryan Broddrick (Director of Fish & Game).

Mel.
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Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 8:24 pm:   

Bager, You are right about United Anglers Southern California under the leadership of Tom Raftican. CCFCC held a meeting in San Luis a few months back where we had all the leadership of the fishing organizations present to discuss our position on the MLPA. Tom Raftican was the only person in support of the marine reserves. This means that any of you who are supporting United Anglers thru the Fred Hall show or are just members of UA are providing money to close down fishing.
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Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 4:55 pm:   

Thats some good reading Mel, maybe a few LAWSUITS from those folks that are forced to comply with the dept of fun and games rules, making us fish deeper water further from shore will get their attention,I know as a member of the CAMBRIA fishing club we have talked about this problem ,we launch our 14 footers from moonstone beach and this year we are FORCED to go further offshore to enjoy our sport, this could be a dangerous situtation at times , oh well what will it take to get their attention, hopefully not a boatload of lost fisherman.
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Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 12:00 pm:   

Sorry about the last post, first time. Oildale Fisherman.
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Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 11:56 am:   

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Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 11:12 am:   

Friends:

By the way, you can go to http://righttofish.com/ and see the menu icon labeled MLPA and read the entire MLPA legislation directly from the Fish & Game Code. Check it out. Only about 7 pages long.

Mel.
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Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 10:57 am:   

ITS ALMOST CRIMINAL ....

Friends: Go to http://righttofish.com/

Click the menu icon labeled "Political News & Updates. Then look at the entry that says January 2005 - Terrible Fishing Regulations. You will see some startling facts about 2005 and 2006 fishing regulations. Or look at the attachment hereto. ITS ALMOST CRIMINAL.

Mel.
application/mswordIts Almost Criminal
Its almost criminal document.doc (29.7 k)
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Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 8:26 am:   

Fisherwill,
I just cruised the beach between the ramp and the creek to the N, hoping to find a hole or a school. Found a couple holes, but no schools. Just move around until you find them, or find a hole and wait for them to come to you!
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Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 8:23 am:   

I went out surfperch fishing yesterday, off of Grand Ave. Only caught a couple, but one was a hog, 12-14" that I got on a spinner. The others I caught on a small curly tail grub. Got a report from a friend who saw some guy hammering surfperch up in MB. He was fishing off the mouth of some creek N of MB. Said te guy was getting a fish every cast! They are out there! Go get 'em.
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Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 7:53 pm:   

This summary of current regulations was updated on January 5, 2005.

Surfperch

The recreational fishery for surfperch (family Embiotocidae) remains open all year. The daily bag and possession limit is 5 fish in combination of all species except shiner surfperch (Cymatogaster aggregata), which have a separate bag limit of 20 fish. Redtail surfperch (Amphistichus rhodoterus) have a minimum size limit of 10 1/2 inches total length.

See website:
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mrd/mapregs7.html
hope that helps




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Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 7:46 pm:   

The 2005 regs are available online.


http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mrd/sportfishing_regs2005.html
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Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 4:29 pm:   

Has anyone been out for surf perch lately? If so where and what do i look for in the water to catch some. Is there a bag limit on them or size limit?
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Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 11:48 am:   

Save the Whales , but SHOOT those frickin seals. and sweat hogs.....
There eating,and stealing all are fish. "EVERYBOBY SHOOT THE SEALS"
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Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 12:07 pm:   

Did anyone see the WON letter written by Raftican in the sound off section. Can someone translate it for me. I can't seem to get a bead on UA this year.

Sound like they are proposing marine parks.

Thanks
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Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 8:47 pm:   

Hey guys...Just got registered (finally)! Check out my profile to see our boat.
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Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 8:33 pm:   

Thanks Harrell for the info, I really appreciate that. You guys are always helpful in finding the information I need. Josh (ConMan)
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Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 6:10 pm:   

Josh;
There is a website that has all that info. I didn't save it but you can find it with your search engine (google).Just plug in Moss Landing.
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Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 8:17 am:   

I need info on renting a slip at moss landing.Any info will be good phone#'s etc. thanks josh Conman
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Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 10:15 pm:   

I AM 75YRS OLD AND HAVE FISHED IN THE CENTRAL COAST MORE THAN 30YRS,FOR ROCK FISH.IN THE BEGINNING I FISHED ON THE PARTY BOATS AND SOME PRIVATE BOATS.I BOUGHT A BOAT ABOUT 20 YRS AGO AND HAVE FISHED ON PRIVATE SINCE.I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST PARTY BOATS,I ENJOY GOING WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS.
I AM CATCHING MORE FISH NOW THAN IN THE PAST. IT COULD BE BECAUSE I HAVE BETTER EQUIPMENT,KNOW WHERE TO GO,AND MORE KNOWLEDGE OF FISHING.IF EVERY THING IS WHAT THE FEDS SAY,AT BEST I WOULD BE CATCHING LIKE IN THE EARLIER YRS.THERE MUST BE MORE FISH THAN WHAT THEY ARE SAYING.
IN TAKING OUR FISHING AWAY,THEY ARE DEPRIVING OUR PLEASURE OF FISHING AND CONSUMING THE FISH.I HAVE SEVERAL TIMES FISHED WITH MY SONS,GRANDSONS AND GREAT GRANDSONS ON THE SAME TRIP,IT DOES'NT GET ANY BETTER THAN THAT!TRY EXPLAINING THIS TO THEM.
THEY WANT TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM US,AND DO NOTHING ABOUT THE SHARKS AND SEALS THAT CONSUME A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN WE DO.
THEY NEED MORE INFO.,AND START LISTENING TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN FISHING.
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Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 2:20 pm:   

>>> DFG News 1/13/2005 10:41:26 AM >>>
Department of Fish and Game
NEWS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Jan. 13, 2005
05:004

Contact: Marc Heisdorf, Marine Biologist, (707) 576-2873
Ocean Salmon Project, (707) 576-2882

Recreational Ocean Salmon Season Opens Feb.
12, 2005
Between Horse Mountain and Point Arena

The recreational ocean salmon season between Horse Mountain and Point
Arena (ports of Shelter Cove and Fort Bragg) opens Saturday, Feb. 12,
2005. The rest of the California coast south from Point Arena to the
California/ Mexico border (ports from Bodega Bay southward) opens on
April 2 for recreational salmon fishing.

The ocean salmon season north of Horse Mountain (ports of Crescent
City, Trinidad, and Eureka) remains closed until the Pacific Fishery
Management Council (PFMC) decides on the appropriate level and timing
of
salmon harvest for the area. Once the PFMC decides the final coast-wide
regulations in April, the California Fish and Game Commission will
adopt
conforming state regulations.

The California Department of Fish and Game (DFG) reminds anglers that
all of the open areas have a daily bag limit of two salmon of any
species except Coho salmon (also known as silver salmon). The retention
of Coho salmon is prohibited in any California ocean fishery. Salmon
may
be taken only by angling and a minimum size of 20 inches total length
is
required. Anglers may not use a weight exceeding 4 pounds unless the
weight is attached to a separate line and the fishing line is released
automatically by a mechanical device from the weighted line when any
fish is hooked.

Anglers shall use only one rod and line and two single-point,
single-shank barbless hooks when fishing for salmon north of Point
Conception. No more than two single-point, single-shank barbless circle
hooks shall be used when not trolling and fishing with bait between
Horse Mountain and Point Conception. These requirements apply to each
angler fishing for salmon or fishing from a boat or other floating
device with salmon on board.

Anglers are reminded that the above regulations are subject to change
after May 1 when the ocean salmon fishing regulations are determined by
the PFMC and adopted by the California Fish and Game Commission and
U.S.
Department of Commerce. Anglers may call the Ocean Salmon Hotline at
(707) 576-3429 to hear the latest California ocean salmon sport
regulations. The 2005 ocean salmon seasons and a Coho identification
poster can be found on the Internet at
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mrd/oceansalmon.html. The web site will be
updated as needed.

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Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 7:33 pm:   

guest, are you afraid to post your name? seems so.
the best way to get trust is to be straight forward no matter what your view is.
maybe you can apply that to your special meeting
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Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 7:09 pm:   

Bob, You are probably correct on the numbers. I neglected to include the date of the resource where I found the info on the Sea Lion population. I'll attempt to post the link. The data I recovered was from an older source and the numbers are surely greater as you suggested. Thanks for the info. Just wanted to stress the point that we weren't the only ones fishing.
http://research.nwfsc.noaa.gov/publications/techmemos/tm28/tm28.htm#to c
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Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 5:28 pm:   

Gary, thanks for the info on the sealions. I would like to know your sources of information. When the MIG was presented on the topic by the biologist from DFG he said that there were different kinds of seals and sealions but when you add them all together they numbered about 360 to 450 thousand and they are growing at a rate of 15% per year. I have saved a file on the topic with some great sources. I will be glad to share it with anyone.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 12:24 pm:   

I have written several postings just to end up cancelling them. I really do not know what we can do to stop the eminent closures of the central coast. Most of us are not aware of the magnitude of the movement. I think we agree upon some things. Sealions are here to stay. The entertainment business is huge and powerful.
The F+G is accepting donations from our adversaries. We all want to preserve our fishing rights. The entertainers that live on the California coast, that love to fish, rarely fish on the California coast. They fish in exotic places and aren't really interested in our battle. It looks like I will be seeing the Director of the F+G next month (not Hendrickson) and I am going into this meeting with nothing.
Just some whining about the waste and the closures. I wish I had some real input. I wonder if any of you realize the rarity of a meeting with the Commissioner in person, one on one. I'm afraid I won't say the right thing. A lifelong sportsman friend of mine is setting this up. Some things we fisherman do not agree upon is that livefishing must stop. White sharks must be protected and even possibly imported. The commercial fisherman must start policing their own. And nearshore rockfish stocks have decined significantly in the past 40 years. I am sure that there are many other things that we differ in opinion of. But I respect your opinion. Give me something to tell this guy.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 12:21 pm:   

try it this way
http://www.righttofish.com/
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Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 10:59 pm:   

The Sea Lions are a very good point. Here is a couple of quick calculations. Based on Scientific Research, the average California Sea Lion ways approximately 550lbs. This mammal consumes about 6% of it's body weight per day. That's about 33lbs of food per day. They don't eat seaweed. They are carnivorous. 200 Sea Lions would consume 6,600lbs of sea life per day. Their primary diet consists of Rockfish, Flatfish, Squid, Octopi, Clams, Lobster and Salmon. The total estimated population is between 200,000 and 214,000 with a growth rate of approximately 5-6% per year. That's a lot of fur-balls and they are much better at fishing than I am. Not to mention the contribution from the Harbor Seals and the other marine mammals that are protected. As a recreational fisherman, I'm thrilled if I can bring home 10lbs of fish 5 or 6 times a year. Give us a break!
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Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 10:42 pm:   

Well, How did they do it in the past? How can anyone have a serious conversation about closures and fishery health without even considering seal population.

Another reason why it's not about the fish, it's just another PETA spawn to close the ocean off from people. Makes me crazy, LOL
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Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 5:21 pm:   

Badger:

Are you kidding? They claim they are overworked and underpaid. They should be begging the feds to amend the Marine Mammal Protection Act to allow states to "cull out" over-populated marine species like the sea lion(like California did very effectively in the past).

The MMPA was a good idea in its conception, but it failed to take into account the possibility of "over-population" of any of these species. The government should have a policy that addresses "over-population", but there is no such thing. So, we let these fur-balls devastate other marine life along our coast.

Humans are not the biggest predators out there in the ocean. The biggest predators are sea lions, ling cod, and sea otters.

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Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 5:10 pm:   

Friends:

This is an experiment. I am going to post our website here with some blank lines and see if it is posted in blue ... and if you double-click on it transports you over to our web site.


righttofish.com



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Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 5:08 pm:   

Interesting, So the DFG cannot even address the issue because it is not PC. Has the DFG notified the Feds of our plight? Prolly not is my guess.

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Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 5:04 pm:   

Friends:

Thanks Bob, we will try to get the RightToFish.com web site working more smoothly and a repository for fishing documents and reports. If you want to read the MLPA legislation, go to the site and notice our new MLPA menu item. The entire verbatim MLPA is posted under that menu item. READ IT. Then you will know the actual language of the statute. What will shock you is that the legislation makes almost no mention whatsoever of NEW OR ADDITIONAL MPAs (Marine Protected Areas). When you finish reading it you will say ... "where did it come from that there is any impetus for new or additional MPAs? It certainly is not mentioned in the statute." You would be so right ... It is the environmental groups that have conned the governor, regulators and public into believing that the MLPA legislation mandates creation of a netword of new MPAs. NOT TRUE! NO SUCH LANGUAGE!

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Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 3:26 pm:   

Interesting point Bodean. I have been a member of the MIG since inception and early on we invited Fish & Game's expert on sealions to address our group. He made two important pionts. 1. the sealion population is out of control and is doubling every five years. They will soon take over all our ports and beaches. 2.they are federally protected and it would be political suicide to propose intervention to controll the number of sealions. On my last albacore trip this year we couldn't bait fish any of the areas of birds working because there were sealions every where. Unfortunately, because of these ignorant enviromentalists, we have no clams, abalone, few crab, and a fishery being desimated by sealions. We've tried and will continue to try to get their attention before the damage is irreversible. On an other note, I've reserved the Avila Yacht Club For our CCFCC $100 fundraiser dinner on Mar 12th. If anyone knows of any reason to change that date let me know. We are still working on a date for the bigger Morro Bay fundraiser, maybe two weeks later. On the issue of using this page for all topics on fishing, including political, I agree we should should still use this page for disscussion because we get a much wider audience. During the fishing season we get 1200 visits per day and now its about 5-700. The Righttofish.com disscussion board is still good for archiving the best points made here so I encourage all to visit both.
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Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 9:49 pm:   

the problem I see with going after seals with the public, is that in their eyes is there cute and associated with a healthy sea enviroment. yes they are over populated and are a mennace in the harbors, landings and skiff racks. but... the public loves them. be careful i`d hate to see that one backfire
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Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 9:30 pm:   

Rodger there Dustin!! Will Do!!

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Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 8:45 pm:   

I say we need a seal commercial. Some good underwater coverage of the local armada of fur bags ripping in and out of the kelp beds eating tonage a day. Maybe we can get Ted Danson, Jack Black, Madeleine Stowe, Henry Winkler, and Tom Arnold to suit up and film it for us.
Mel and Bob, I look forward to the coming PSL and Morro CCFCC gatherings. If you need any help Bob email me and I will do what I can to lend a hand. Jimbo, let the SB and Ventura guys know about the coming events as well. We cant count on the Southern Cali guys at the moment but I know you guys are good for a road trip up here to lend a hand.

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Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 7:08 pm:   

Since White sharks have been protected for about the past 10 years...and they become sexually mature after about 10 years...and the sea lion population has exploded since the marine mamal protection act (@1970)...and sharks eat mostly sea lions...it will be interesting to see if we will have more and more White shark sightings along the entire coast. I surf too, so this will be interesting how it plays out.
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Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 3:30 pm:   

mel thanks for that post, nice to hear someone talk some sence
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Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 2:35 pm:   

Just my two cents but you hit the nail on the head Mel. There can be no real conversation of fish conservation without any mention of seal populations out of control up and down the coast.

Same as in the CI closures where Rosa, Miguel and the west end of Cruz cannot even be fished six months of the year due to weather.

If it were about the fish, these simple facts would play a major role in conservation.

Great Whites are being drawn to the coast for the easy meal here lately.
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Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 2:22 pm:   

Anonymous guest (who posted 2 messages below):

That was a very good posting. Good information and very valuable information. I would like to meet with you or talk to you on the phone before you meet with the Commissioner (are you referring to Marilyn Hendrickson who is up for confirmation?) I also have a few comments on your posting.

1. You said: "Anyone that has fished inshore for the last 40 years has experienced the massive decline of large rockfish on the central coast." I am not sure I agree with that completely. I admit that I have only fished along the central coast for the last 30 years ... and my partner (who is much older) says that 50 years ago the fish were more plentiful. However, the entire nearshore fishery has seen many regime shifts (temperature changes ... like el nino) that have effected fish populations and spawning. In the last 5 years, I have seen an explosion in the number of ling cod and the red rock cod are as plentiful and as big as I have ever seen. The blue bass are very plentiful and some schools show a nice recruitment of small fish and some schools will have some huge specimens. My partner and I often catch a few mammoth blues ... as big as I have ever caught in 30 years. The olives (johnny bass) may not be as plentiful from Cambria to Pt. Sal as they once were, but we still catch some huge ones. If you go above the lighthouse, you can catch huge 4-5 pound olives all day long.

I admit that I do not see as many cabezons as we use to see (and that might indeed be caused by live-fishermen targeting that species). The gopher cod seem to come and go from year to year, but overall have about the same size and quantity as I recall from earlier days.

I actually wonder if sea lions aren't having a bigger impact on nearshore species than humans. The sea lion population has been allowed to skyrocket from 40,000 in California to somewhere around 400,000. These slugs eat in one day 50 times the total-tonnage alotment for recreational and live-fishermen FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR. I submit that hook-and-line fishermen have little or no impact on nearshore species. Our impact is "statistically insignificant". I can tell you from my own experience ... the rock cod fishing was absolutely FANTASTIC in 2004!

2. Your comments about the live-fishing industry: I admit that personally I do not frequent restaurants where live-fish are available for customers. However, there is a demand for this product. People do each fish sold in these restaurants. They have as much right to eat fish in the fashion they desire as you or I. The problems about waste are not the fault of the people who eat in these restaurants. There are many live-fishermen who are decent hard-working people who do not waste the fish. You are describing an enforcement issue that presents itself equally with respect to by-catch by commercail net fishermen. I think there are plenty of fish to support a live-fishing industry ... if the quotas are carefully monitored and enforcement strengthened. Like anything else, the "bad apples" give the whole barrel a bad flavor.

The real problems we face along the Central Coast are not the live-fishermen. The potential destruction of our fishing rights comes from the environmental groups who have no idea what they are doing. They are well-funded, committed, and well-organized. However, most of them have no clue about fishing. Many of them have never been on a boat in the ocean. They just want to shut us down completely. Concerning these efforts to create "no-fish" zones and efforts to limit the number of months of fishing, we need to 1) Educate ourselves on the MLPA process; 2)Educate the public about the MLPA; 3)Educate the public about the true health of our nearshore fishery; 4)Hold the DFG accountable to complying with the law that requires them to gather data and science about nearshore species so that they can make proper fishing regulations.

Well enough for now..... you've all heard this before.

Melvin de la Motte
President of Central Coast Fisheries Conservation Coalition (CCFCC)

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