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Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Post Number: 120
Registered: 9-2003
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 11:21 am: | |
Friends:
Just another suggestion that you go to
shiftingbaselines.org
and watch the 5 minute video. If you are inclined put down your comments in the "comment" on video section below the video box. We are really getting some great comments and I think this is SHOCKING the environmentalists....
Mel. |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Post Number: 119
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 9:39 am: | |
Friends:
This is my summary of the Morro Bay meeting of Thursday evening. Although it was a packed house, I would label it a total waste of time. It was a circus where any goofy clown off the street could say anything they wanted. One crack-pot woman wanted the BRTF to look at history of coastal civilizations going back 5,000 years. She wanted the Native Indians of Fiji studied as an example … I’m not sure what she was smoking … but it was typical of some of the crowd.
Not one member of the BRTF was present
Not one member of the executive part of the BRTF was present
The only representatives of Fish & Game were two marine biologists who basically walked around handing the microphone to people.
Don Maruska was the facilitator and he explained right off the bat that he is just a hired facilitator who is supposed to keep the meeting going smoothly. This clearly was a weak attempt to get “public comment,” without requiring the important people to be present. It is presumptuous to think that the BRTF will even watch the video of the speakers … but they will be able to say they allowed “public comment.” The meeting was a collosal waste of time.
On a substantive level, about 20-30 environmentalists appeared … all arguing for the “biggest possible” region as the “Central Coast”. Most wanted Pt. Arena to Pt. Conception. About 100-120 fishermen showed up and almost all supported the “smallest possible” region. Most people supported Option #7: Ano Nuevo to Pt. Sur. Our best argument was that the time restraints (need to complete master plan on Central Coast by March of 2006) required that BRTF pick a small area that they can handle in a short period of evaluation.
The more I work on this project … the more pessimistic I am becoming. The BRTF will provide a master plan to Fish & Game Commission that will have numerous “no fish” preserves and a glossy management plan for review and study of these zones. However, there will never be any money to do the studies and evaluation … so the no-fish zones will be with us forever. The environmental groups will later complain that there are not enough no-fish zones … and in an abundance of caution we should create more … and the cycle will go on and on until there is no ocean fishing of any kind. We do not have the firepower to stop this steamroller.
But, I will go down fighting with gun and rod in hand.
Mel.
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Badger (Unregistered Guest)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 9:24 am: | |
Bob, hope you don't mind, I copied your post to Allcoast main page so the guys in the south see whats going on.
How bout we don't participate in illegal NRDC funded closures - Catch me if you can - I have 24 mile radar with alarm feature dammit. LOL |
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 10:28 pm: | |
maybe theres a future in ecology and we could all become vegitarians. oops theres a problem there, certian studies indicate that plants have feelings and react to pain. well i guess we can eat each other |
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 10:14 pm: | |
I thought this was the USA ruled by the the people for the people and by the people, not by the ones that have the most money their complete ignorance, errogance and a few other choice words i cannot exspress here really irritate my back side |
Anonymous
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 10:06 pm: | |
anyone here voting for arnold ever? what a work of art he is saying hes a friend of fishermen and soon after starting , backing this mlpa bullshit |
Bob Hather (Windfall)
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Post Number: 113
Registered: 8-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 10:03 pm: | |
For those of you that didn't attend the public hearing for boundary consideration of the Central Coast MPA at the Morro Bay Vets center, you didn't miss anything. It was a very disapointing format. It appeared that expert marine biologists were given the same weight as any idiot retard off the street. Not a single member of the Blue Ribbon Task Force was present. The word I have is that the fix is in and the Panel is just going through the motions to protect their predetermind conclusions. There were some good coments by reputable sources that the data locally indicates that MPA's wont do much good in our area because the fish stocks have been relitively stable for the past 30 years. And that with the current limited seasons and existing zone closures we have a sustainable fishery. CCFCC will stay engaged. Three of our directors made public comment on your behalf.
Bob Hather |
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 11:02 am: | |
I think April 30th is the renewal date for nearshore permits. If any of you guys want to sell yours, just post it here with a contact number. I will call you. |
Jay Elder (Jayelder)
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Post Number: 5
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 8:33 am: | |
Here is what the squid look like. Good eating if you remove the membrain from the meat.  |
Badger (Unregistered Guest)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 8:16 am: | |
I am very sad to report that our Governor has withdrawn the name of Marilyn Hendrickson from the confirmation process in the legislature. She had been appointed to serve on the powerful State Fish & Game Commission. She was indeed a friend of fishermen. This is a devastating blow to fishing interests. It was a behind-the-scenes deal with environmental groups who do not want to see a fair Fish and Game Commission.
This whole thing is a giant set up from the beginning. Arnie is at the helm and the Blue Ribbon Science Panel is a straw man to take the heat and disperse. The public has been removed except for the principals. What Krap, This will be another bendover scenario.
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Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Post Number: 118
Registered: 9-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 3:25 pm: | |
CORRECTION CORRECTION CORRECTION
I gave you the wrong web site. The correct web site is: shiftingbaselines.org
Mel |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Post Number: 117
Registered: 9-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 2:25 pm: | |
THIS IS IMPORTANT
THIS IS IMPORTANT
Do you all remember the horrible, deceitful little "Public Service Announcement" ad that was on television in this area which showed the "tiny fish" being checked out by a Fish & Game officer? It was a humorous attempt to show that fishing is on the decline in California?
Randy Olson, the publisher of that ad, came to San Luis Obispo and took 3-4 hours of video footage interviewing fisherman to prepare a "rebuttal" to the tiny-fish commercial.
YOU CAN SEE OUR 5 MINUTE REBUTTAL BY GOING TO:
Shiftingbaselines.com
Also, they have a section where you can comment on the video ... please make favorable comments. I think it is important that we show our appreciation for giving fishermen a chance to respond.
Take a look.
Mel. |
DEN UEDA (Tin_can)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 11:19 am: | |
THOSE SQUID SHOULD BE HANGING ON THE TOP OF CANYONS, FIND A DROP OFF AS DEEP AS YOU CAN LIKE 500 FT TO 1200 FT, DROP ALL THE WAY DOWN AND JIG UP SLOWLY, SHOULD GET BIT. THEN IF YOU ARE LUCKY THE SCHOOL WILL COME UP WITH IT. THE BIG SQUID JIGS ARE THE BEST, BUT YOU CAN USE BIG LING JIGS, YOU NEED TO ADD WEGHT TO GET DOWN,PINCH THE BARBS, HELPS TO GET THEM OFF EASY AND ANY ROCK FISH CAN BE RELEASED EASIER. GOOD LUCK. |
Guest (Unregistered Guest)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 7:07 pm: | |
Thanks Den, (Tin Can) Now for the weather to let up. Wonder where a guy would start looking? Does a guy need those squid lures? And thanks also for the address: coastsidefishing.com What about those squid? |
DEN UEDA (Tin_can)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 1:40 pm: | |
YOU ARE HEARING RUMORS THAT ARENT TRUE. THE HUMBOLT SQUID ARE GREAT TABLE FARE. THE INK WILL NOT PERMANENTLY STAIN A GLASS BOAT. IF IN DOUBT GO TO COASTSIDE FISHING.COM AND SEE IN THE FORUM HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ENJOYING THESE SQUID. YOU MUST CLEAN THEM PROPERLY AND GET BOTH MEMBRANES OFF THEM.GET ON ICE ASAP. BUT THEY ARE GOOD TO EAT. DEN |
Guest (Unregistered Guest)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 11:00 am: | |
I have been ready to go out for the squid, but I have been told they are only good for bait, not for calamari. Is that the facts? And, that they will permanently stain a glass boat finish with their ink. And Bob, are you going to post Darby's article or not? |
Jay Elder (Jayelder)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 5:44 am: | |
Photo of Fathometer wwith squid. Depth is 600 ft, squid at 300 ft. When you hook a few they come up righ under the boat (-10 ft.).
Awesome! |
Jay Elder (Jayelder)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 5:32 am: | |
WHY ISN'T ANYONE OUT LOOKING FOR THE GIANT (hUMBOLT ) sQUID? THEY ARE CATCHING THEM BOTH ABOVE AND BELOW US. THE REPORTS ON WWW.FULLSPEEDFISHING.COM TELL US THEY WILL BITE ANYTHING THAT MOVES, ARE IN 300 -1200 FT. OF WATER, SHOW UP GOOD ON THE FATHOMETER AND ARE GOOD TO EAT. THEY GOTTA BE OUTSIDE THE HARBOR RIGHT NOW!
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Dustin DesJardins (Farmerd)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 10:03 am: | |
Bob ... how far out were the squid? Numbers? Depth? Have surgery this week on my arm was hopeing to get out before then. Weather may not let me get out .. but with these giant squid up and down the coast right now, hard not to go take a look. I know up north they are getting them in 400 ft of water. |
Eric Endersby (Unregistered Guest)
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I would hazard a guess that whatever the "central coast" is, it will include Monterey Bay. After all, it was none other than Julia Packard that was quoted as saying "I want those damn fishermen off of my bay!" And it is Julia's money, via the Packard Foundation and the Resources Legacy Foundation Fund, that is backing the 2 million just given to DFG for this fast-track effort. So go figure...
Eric Endersby |
RightTo (Unregistered Guest)
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Friends:
So, I guess we would be delaying a certainly evil outcome for us here in SLO county if we try to define "Central Coast" as somewhere else, somewhere north of Pt. Sur .... and there is a good chance that we might be successful in that effort.
Most people are saying that the one certain area for targeting is Monterey Bay.
Mel. |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 5:59 pm: | |
Stacy:
No, no! The central coast (whatever that means) has been targeted for "fast-track" treatment and will have any new or additional MPAs implemented by the end of 2006. The rest of the state has a target implementation date of 2011.
Mel. |
Stacey Meacham (Stacey)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 1:37 pm: | |
Mel,
I'm a little confused by the timeline mentioned in your post. I thought that the area of the MPAs would be defined in 2006, and they would be implemented in 2011. Please clarify.
Thanks, Stacey
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Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Post Number: 115
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 12:38 pm: | |
Friends:
Very CONFUSING meeting coming up on Thursday!
At the Vets Bldg in Morro Bay on Thursday from 6-9 p.m. will be a meeting of the Blue Ribbon Task Force appointed by the governor to come up with a masterplan to implement the MLPA.
The big issue on the table is: "Where is the CENTRAL COAST?" They need to decide this primary issue. I gave you a site below where you can read the 7-page analysis on this point. The potential areas range all the way from Pt. Arena (up by Mendocino) down to Pt. Conception. There are about 7-8 possible blocks of coastline that might be included in the description of "CENTRAL COAST". The reason this is important is because there is a fast-track timeline to come up with a master plan for the Central Coast that might include new or additional MPAs. The new MPAs on the Central Coast (if there are any) are supposed to be in place by the end of 2006.
I see three issues in picking a "guinea pig area" to be labeled "central coast."
1. Are they looking for an EASY area to assess and make decisions about so that they can easily comply with the fast-track timelines? If so, then including from Pt. Conception to Pt. Sur would be a good idea ... because we have the most data about our area and it is clear that NO NEW OR ADDITIONAL MPAs are WARRANTED OR JUSTIFIED IN THIS AREA!
2. Or, are they looking for an area that has been hammered by fishermen and may have certain species that are under pressure and new and additional MPAs might be justified? Then they would want to include the Monterey Bay and San Francisco Bay area. However, this is a huge area and they have very poor data about this area ... and would have a hard time complying with the timelines given by the MLPA process.
3. Or, are they looking for an area that has better data ... and might also need new or additional MPAs? In this case, they might want to just focus on Monterey Bay. They have the Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary already established in that area. One problem with the MBNMS is that they have no proof that this MPA has been beneficial to marine life adjacent to the sanctuary? This might be a good MPA to analyze and find out that MPAs do not improve marine life adjacent to the sanctuary (in spite of claims by enviros to the contrary).
When I appear on Thursday night, I will be asking the panel to describe WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR. Thus far, they have given no guidance on this issue.
You might want to attend on Thursday night and watch the process.
Mel. |
Jim Lewis (Jimmer)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 8:06 am: | |
Clark, Nice steelhead! Christmas day cedar planked steelhead?.. mmmmmmm good! 47 days 'til salmon season but whose counting?
Bloody decks forever!! |
Bob Hather (Windfall)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 10:36 pm: | |
Stacey, Thanks for letting me know about the hang up on the righttofish.com chat board. Clark, nice steelhead. Today some of our friends went looking for giant squid because a local commercial boat came in with some that were caught in his net. I've caught four footers before trolling albacore feathers. Once we got the first one to the boat we were surrounded by them and they hit anything. I've sold about half of the tickets to the Avila CCFCC dinner for Mar 12. Call me if you want to support us at 541-4992. Today I was telephone surveyed by the DFG. I gave the interviewer a piece of my mind. How can a person remember how many times they went fishing in a particular month and what they caught. Crapola in crapola out. This effort by the environmentalists to shut fishing down on the central coast through MPAs, PG&E midigations, and extending the Monterey Bay Sanctuary is purely political because there is no data to suggest it is needed or would add to the fish stocks. We need to wake up and get involved or risk fisheries management becoming fishing closures. Guest, if you have the article from Darby on your computor just email it to me and I will post it for you. Its just a simple cut and paste.
Bob Hather |
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 6:26 pm: | |
I would like to post an article written by Darby for the Sun Bulletin awhile back, that I believe we need to think about. Can someone tell me how to upload it? |
Anonymous
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I wonder what would happen if EVERYONE got together and went fishing one one day, out every harbor and caught fish between now and May? call it a fishermans revolt? |
Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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I dont know about you guys , but I just Emailed the so called GOV and told him what I think, may be In a cell tomorrow , will see about FREE SPEACH
Blackie / SR |
clark (Unregistered Guest)
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day before christmas |
clark (Unregistered Guest)
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i hope this does it |
clark (Unregistered Guest)
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sorry i guess i need to learn how to upload pictures |
clark (Unregistered Guest)
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went to washington for christmas and fished the skykomish river the week before christmas with my brother for eight steelhead including this one christmas morning before presents\popjpeg |
Stacey Meacham (Stacey)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 7:42 am: | |
Mel,
There's a problem with the RTF chat board that needs to be fixed. I keep getting an error page when I try to access it.
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 10:10 am: | |
I had my meeting with Ryan Broderick on the 3rd. One on one. I must say I was disappointed. Although a very nice gentleman, it was clear that he is highly overloaded. With the loss of confirmation of Hendrickson, we had better learn to fish from shore, and even that is going to be shortlived. I am a staunch conservative, but I would not vote for the Gubernator again.
I am interested in the purchase of a nearshore permit, if anyone knows of one for sale. Just post a response and I will contact you. |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 9:19 am: | |
Friends:
I am very sad to report that our Governor has withdrawn the name of Marilyn Hendrickson from the confirmation process in the legislature. She had been appointed to serve on the powerful State Fish & Game Commission. She was indeed a friend of fishermen. This is a devastating blow to fishing interests. It was a behind-the-scenes deal with environmental groups who do not want to see a fair Fish and Game Commission.
It was the worst kind of back-stabbing imaginable. Although Schwartzenegger stood side-by-side with Tom Raftican during the recall and said he was a friend of fishermen ... he has been stabbing us in the back ever since. Every aspect of fishing regulations is in a downward spiral destroying our sport.
This is a very discouraging event. I want to vomit. Our governor, who says he wants to be above "politics" ... is right there in the cesspool ... and you know what it smells like.
Mel. |
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 8:44 pm: | |
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Anonymous
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sanluis boat yard, somewhat cheaper secure as long as everyone locks the gate. I havn`t heard of problems as of late but have in the past. take your gear and electronics with you. |
DEN UEDA (Tin_can)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 12:59 pm: | |
YES, PORT SAN LUIS BOAT STORAGE YARD. VERY REASONABLE AND VERY SECURE, DOUBLE FENCE LOCKED, PATROLLED BY DIABLO SECURITY. JUST GO TO PSL OFFICE BEHIND FAT CATS, DEN |
jocelyn jodar (Jocelyn)
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looks like there area few squid 9 miles from Santa Cruz, check out Bayside Marine for report. If there are squid in SD, Newport, Santa Cruz, Half Moon Bay maybe there are some around here. Anyone up to going searching?
Tight Lines
Jocelyn |
Tsunami (Carl_moore)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 5:06 pm: | |
I'd like to do a little bench marking here. I'm pay about $195 in boat (25' Skipjack) storage fees every 3 months. That seems high to me, and I live in the bay area. How much do you pay? Any storage suggestions for Morro Bay or Los Osos. Looking for a place that is secured! easy access, and resonable in cost.
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DEN UEDA (Tin_can)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 9:46 pm: | |
THE WATER CLOSE TO THE WEATHER BOUY IS WARM ENOUGH. THEY ARE KILLING THEM IN HALF MOON BAY |
Skip (Unregistered Guest)
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I wonder if there is any giant squid off PSL or MB |
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safety on the oceans for fishermen and anyone traveling through our waters should be a priority. the savings of expences through coast guard responses, possible loss of life and people making educated guesses because the data isnt there doesnt make any sence when we have all the technological tools nessesary to give really good forcasts and provide up to the minute conditions. artificial reefs work, florida has used them with success. |
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I like the idea of using some of that mitigation money to maintain the buoy(s) we lost. The feds are forcing anyone with small craft to go out and fish in depths between 20 and 40 fathoms. Without realtime data on sea conditions, this is going to put recreational fishermen in a potentially dangerous situation. Didn't the buoys with their chains and anchor provide an artificial reef for the fishery? Seems like that would be a good argument for keeping them. |
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maybe pg&e could supply funds to maintain the bouys and offset the damage caused by diablo.
about the artificial reef idea, theres a nice sandy stretch of sand from the pismo pier to mussle point. maybe reefs put in place there would create more habitat for rockfish. if they are going to close areas on the central coast they could close the reefs they put in place to the rockcod fisheries. might be a good study area so that proper data can be collected |
JOHN COSTELLO (Taurus)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 07, 2005 - 5:13 am: | |
MMS (the federal oil co watch dogs.....uh lap dogs) is out of money....these bouys were put in place to have real time data on winds and currents in case of an oil spill...they say the bouys are no longer needed....wtf???did somebody remove all the platforms north of santa barbara when i wasn't looking?...with oil hovering at $50 a barrel, you'd think 20 grand a year per bouy for maintenance could be found... |
Badger (Unregistered Guest)
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Lost another bouy 46054 - Was place offline January of 2005 - Are we seeing a trend? SB west Channel bouy is a huge loss to us CI guys.
WTF? |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 10:21 am: | |
Friends:
If you want to follow this MLPA process and want to know what the crucial guidelines are that will be reviewed at the Feb. 17 meeting in Morro Bay, take a look at the 7 pages at this site:
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mrd/mlpa/pdfs/agenda4_021105.pdf
Mel |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 10:13 am: | |
Eric:
Theoretically, the RWQCB could give the money to CDFG for the MLPA process, but that is very unlikely. The problem here is that there is a law (Can't remember the exact code section ... but I think it is 319(b) of something ...) that requires that the amount of mitigation money is based on the amount it would take to replicate the lost larvae. So, the scientific panel seems intent on doing something that will replicate or replace the lost larvae.
Actually, I wouldn't mind the money from PG&E going to the MLPA process. I think that there would be less of a conflict of interest with them giving money to CDFG than from special interest groups (left-wing environmental groups)....
Mel. |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Bill Miller & Friends:
The meetings start (in 3 different locations)on Feb. 15th. The one in Morro Bay will be on February 17th. They want a small group of "stake-holders" (i.e. leaders) to address the Blue Ribbon Task Force. I am suppose to get a short list of stakeholders that will meet with the Blue Ribbon Task Force. Please contact me personally at mr.mel@sbcglobal.net if you are interested. Would like to have representatives of a)port/harbor-masters, b)city government, c) recreational fishermen, d) commercial fishermen, e) kelp harvesters, f)sport landings, g) boat-equipment manufacturers ... etc. We need to meet ahead of time and plan an ORGANIZED plan of presentation ..... Will keep you all posted.
Mel. |
Eric Endersby (Unregistered Guest)
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Mel:
As you've explained, and now DFG has spoken, the RWQCB has no authority to set up any kind of marine reserves on it's own with Diablo mitigation money. But what if the RWQCB wants to "give" the mitigation money to DFG for the MLPA process? Much like the Resources Legacy Foundation Fund (aka Packard) "gave" DFG 2 million to jump start the MLPA. That's my fear.
Has DFG come out and said that they will not take the money, or just that the RWQCB has no authority to set up reserves? What's to stop them from taking the money for the MLPA in the name of Diablo mitigation? Yes, I'm paranoid!
Eric Endersby |
Bill Miller (Fishing_bear)
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Mel - According to WON there's supposed to be a meeting in Morro Bay on Feb. 15th. Do you know more about it? IE:topics, location, time?
Thanks on behalf of all of us fishermen & fisherwomen for all of your work.
Bill |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Gary & Others:
Many of you have been trying to send me e-mail and it doesn't work. This site and others have the wrong e-mail address. My e-mail addres is
mr.mel@sbcglobal.net
I will try to find out from Bob Hather how to change the e-mail they have listed for me on this site (and will try to change the one at RightToFish.com)
Mel. |
Tsunami (Carl_moore)
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FYI All
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http://www.sportsexpos.com
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Gary (Unregistered Guest)
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Mel, I'm trying to send you an email but it keeps coming back to me as "undeliverable message" Can you help. |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Friends:
Just a note about the RWQCB-Science Panel meeting yesterday at Moss Landing.
The front page article in the Tribune was once again slanted, erroneous garbage. The headline said that one of the remedies for the Diablo Canyon remediation was "No-fishing zones". WRONG! NOT! AINT GONNA HAPPEN!
As it turns out, David Sneed of the Tribune was once again distorting the truth. In fact, what the scientific team's report says is: "The Regional Board has no authority to establish marine reserves..."
The scientific panel is really down to ONE ALTERNATIVE and that is a proposal for adding reefs to replicate lost fish larvae killed in the "entrainment" at Diablo. Entrainment is the intake of water at Diablo and using it to cool the nuclear rods and then releasing this water back to the ocean at a temperature that is about 20 degrees hotter. This process kills millions of small fish larvae in the process. The whole lawsuit against PG&E is based on the killing of these larvae. The "mitigation money" is suppose to create a situation that replicates the lost larvae.
So, they are proposing these reefs at a cost to PG&E of $15-30 million. The artificial reefs will probably be located in Estero Bay, or Pismo Beach, or down toward Oceano. I think these reefs are really a waste of money (we have plenty of reefs off the Central Coast), but are probably harmless and not a threat to our fishing interests. This RWQCB process will not lead to any "no-fish zones".
Some people present suggested to the panel that it was essential to create a "research fund" to look at other options for use of remediation money ... including the rockfish enhancement program developed by Freddy Otte who is working with the Salmon Enhancement Program. I strongly supported this project at the Moss Landing meeting.
As I suspected, the Tribune had no one present ... so don't expect them to correct the slanted distortions they printed in the paper.
Mel. |
Olan (Fisheater)
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I enjoy the central coast fishing when time allows, but with the current season restrictions it becomes even harder to go. I would like to know if any of you know some good spots to find Mussels during the low tides next week? The pier pilings only have a few small ones that I have seen. Any suggestions would be appreciated, at least you get to walk on the beach and be near the ocean... until they try to stop us for doing that also to protect some other species. |
Darby Neil (Darby)
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Perch fishing. For license information, call the office in Monterey at 831-649-2870. You are allowed 50 baits unless you get the invertebrate license then it is unlimited. You can pump your own or buy them from some tackle stores. Marty, call me I will tell all I know – that shouldn’t take long. Some guys do great flylining perch. I hear it’s a real kick.
Even with the swell up the guys are still doing 25-35 pounds in a couple hours. I got some the other night. They taste better than rockfish. Kind of like fillet of sole.
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Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Friends:
Just an update on tomorrow's meeting of RWQCB scientific panel in Moss Landing.
1. Fish & Game is sending multiple people to the meeting to "set the record straight" that the RWQCB has no power or jurisdiction to implement marine preserves or "no-fish zones".
2. Freddy Otte will be traveling up there with me to promote his rockfish enhancment program. He is at the forefront in developing methods to grow rockfish in "ocean pens" (just like we do with salmon in the salmon enhancement program) and then release the fish to the ocean after they have grown to a bigger size. His work in this area may be the best thing that has happened to rockfish promotion in decades.
3. I will be going up to Moss Landing to support Freddy Otte's program and ask them to give a few million to this cause. They have 15 million to use to help in remediation and are off on tangents about MPAs and more reef-building. We have an adequate number of reefs in the area. Why not do something like gather necessary fishery data or give money to rockfish enhancement.
I will let you know what happens up there.
Mel. |
Tsunami (Carl_moore)
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With all this down time I've been getting the urge for a big fat juicy sea lion steak, or a snowy plover with some fava beans and a nice bottle of chianti. I think I'll invite Felica Coleman over for dinner.
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I would vote for a lower size limit on lings they are doing quite well 24" is a good size limit for them, and a separate limit on blues, blue rockfish are are very prolifant on the central coast, a menace at times. the limits on them should be separate from other species.
"closures, the open seasons and size limits on lings is due to ignorance"
Ling cod are very agressive and will eat damn near anything. fun to catch though its a shame to have to throw back a fish that measures 28" and weighs in at 12 lbs. |
Gary (Unregistered Guest)
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Dustin, I listened to the "Last Fish Left" and it's obvious Mr. Palumbi has never fished for rock fish around the Central Coast. Anyone that has can tell you the rock fish are very abundent here. The blue rock fish are so thick, it's hard to get your hooks down past them to get to the reds. You can't keep the Ling Cod of your hooks either. I can't tell you how many times I've reeled in what I thought was a big red only to find it's a smaller blue in the mouth of a keeper Ling.
Fish On! |
Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Righttofish)
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Friends:
Just a quick update.
On Tuesday, there will be a meeting of RWQCB in Moss Landing to consider "marine closure" of area north of Diablo Canyon for about 5 1/2 miles (up to Montano de Oro State Park).
Cal. Dept. of Fish & Game will probably send a representative to "set the panel straight" on the fact that they do not have the power or authority to create marine preserves. This marine preserve is NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!
I am going up there with Fred Otte to promote his rockfish enhancement program as a potential target for expenditure of the remediation money made available by PG&E.
I will keep you posted.
Mel. |
gusest (Unregistered Guest)
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Has anyone been catching any of those giant squid? According to WON they are getting 20-40 pounders from Mexico to Santa Cruz. The party boats are getting hundreds. Ummm!
Calamari. How do you catch thoses things?
And, I agree with the last anonymous posting. |
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DFG montery has all of your license info. looking for a nearshore permit? "LIVE FISH PERMIT"? GOOD LUCK IVE TRIED AND THEY DONT WANT TO SELL. If they do they want a whole lot`s of money . must be alot at stake??? maybe they are real people earning a living doing what they do to support their families like most people do.
I feel for them in their plight as I have real concerns for the future of fishing in general. seems to me that the enviromentalists, the whiners are the ones that use plastic bags, wash their cars in the driveways, use and create enviromental hazards without having a clue as to whats really going on. "save the seals", while these same seals,are busy eating tons of fish a day. they are completly over populated. and maybe those people that are whining so much are the ones that are working in industries that have very detrimental effects on our environment. the problem to me seems to be to many regulations, maybe because of the number of people on the coastlines. But who am I to say Ive only been around here for 40 some years.
another thing that pisses me off is this snowy plover thing. there used to be over 10 miles of beach to take my family on , catch perch and find some solititude now theres 3.mi.? endangered? if there is anything endangered its us americans. there are to many of beach(s) closed already and to add the waters of our coast through closures would be a travisty. to many beaches and our coastline are closed to vehicles, horses, people,dogs, ETC. I think it`s time for the tree huggers and perhaps the rest of us to rethink.
a conciquence of closures of other areas and there will be more damage to the areas left open. ease the pressure thru limits and loads and the entier ecosystem will thrive. enough said thanks for letting me vent |
Dustin DesJardins (Farmerd)
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Did anyone listen to Steve Palumbi's little song "Last Fish Left"? ... I was sitting here thinking how we had the best year EVER on HUGE red's and Bolina and this little tiddy just pisses me off to no end! If you have not clicked on the link below .. do ... you will see how confused and distorted their entire thought process realy is. |
Steve Hendricks (Fishmaster)
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Typical surfperch rig is a sliding weight above a swivel, then a 18"-24" leader. Use can either use shrimp or small brown curly tail grubs. I caught a hog last week on a #3 brown blue fox spinner. Fly-rod: use a six weight, sinking line, short leader and a #6 brown woolly bugger with perhaps a little orange on one side (these fish eat mostly sand crabs; supposedly they really like the ones full of eggs, which are orange).
I used to bass fish a bunch around here in high school. Lopez: great small and good largemouth, plus great crappie and big channel catfish; Margarita: good largemouth, great crappie, some catfish and maybe a monster striper left over from the 80's (when they shifted from stocking stripers to trout, who want to fish for wrinkle necks anyhow!!!); Naci; smallmouth, spotted, largemouth and white bass, plus good crappie and small catfish...tons of carp!!! San Antonio: Stripers, largemouth and smallmouth, plus nice catfish and descent crappie. Fishing at area lakes will start to pick up in late march. should be good with full lakes.
lat,
steve |
Will Stoudenmire (Fisher_will)
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Good luck on any small mouth around here but for large mouth and white bass go to nacimento, san antonio, lopez, and margarita lake. i think the only chance you got for strippers is in nacienmento but i know if you get one in maragrita your are very lucky |
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Can someone explain to me the typical surf perch rig? And where can you get mud shrimp? And how about catching surf perch on a flyrod? Any tips will be greatly appreciated.
Also with the chance of the ocean closures.... I want to explore the local freshwater fisheries....Any info. on the Smallmouth Bass/ Spotted Bass/ and Striped bass fisheries? |
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Can a guy get a permit to harvest and hold bait?
Anyone know? I want to have live bait on hand when I need it. |
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How does a guy get a commercial livefishing license? Or a receiver's license? Anyone know where to get this info? I want to be able to fish in shallow water.. |
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go for it. Get a commercail licence, transportation book and get your fish landed by a fish buyer. or you could buy a recievers licence and sell them to whomever you want.
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Darby Neil (Darby)
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Apparently I upset some people with my statement regarding the perch fishery, "No reduction in commercial take so now we get the (commercial) license and take more & sell the extras." I am not suggesting that we do not conserve the perch fishery but that Fish & Game has forced us into this position with a 5 fish limit. Five fish won't feed my family of six! The studies showed that the hook and line fishermen, commercial and sport combined, don't measurably effect the perch stocks compared natural biological influences and cycles. The coastline is just to large with to many remote beaches. That's why this sport limit is so rediculous. It was another political restriction in the name of conservation. But just to be clear. |
