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Greg Birkholz (Pegleg)
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 6:56 pm:   

Use JB Weld and some 3M sealer and go fishing. Bring your bucket for back up plan.
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Rick von Stein (Deep_star)
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 6:50 pm:   

Attention all who might be able to help. Since this is the slow season for fishing and because there is abundant brain power available in our group, I'm forwarding an email from a friend in need. Hope some of you might be able to help:
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I really need your advice on a serious problem.
I have suspected for some time now that my wife has been cheating on me. The usual signs: if the phone rings and I answer, the caller hangs up;
she also goes out with the girls a lot. I try to stay awake to look out for her when she comes home but I usually fall asleep. Anyway last night
about midnight I hid in the shed behind the boat. When she came home she got out of someone's car, combing her hair and walking wobbly. It was at that moment, crouched behind the boat, that I noticed a hairline crack in the outboard engine mounting bracket. Is that something I can weld or do I need to replace it ?
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The Kid (Derby)
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 6:11 pm:   

Dave,

I don't do stars. I prefer to let everyone know my opinion outright rather then hide behind an anonymous mask.

I agree with your comment. Environazis have been organized for some time. That is the reason for closures.

Fisherman have yet to match the enthusiasm of these wack-jobs.

It is happening. It's just unfortunate it has taken this long.

www.SAVECAFISHING.org is our new rally point. This is you, I and every other private, sport and commercial fisherman's only hope.

SaveCAFishing allows our demographic a central location to rally funds, resources and any other help to fend off current and future fishing closures by funding council and lobbyists to counteract the tree huggers.


What I do have a problem with is anti-Obama comments with no alternate point of view. Sure it easy to point out issues with this current administration. I know it, you know it. But please tell me what the alternative is.

To me the alternative is more people like you and me with out jobs or critical social service and more rich white people hording all the money paying less taxes and not giving a shit about the rest of people in this country.

.....I could go on, and I know I shouldnt as this is a forum for fishing....It must be obvious I havent caught a fish in a while....


...is it salmon season yet?
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Dave Rymal (Dave_rymal)
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 5:03 pm:   

Here`s my take here,when I see 85 votes for derbys posts 1 star for my post one star for Hather`s and Taurus`s posts. I have serious concerns of some of the brain power here. We all have fought our asses off trying to save our fishing opportunitys . 6 yrs of meetings for me. You need to listen up.
Capt Dave
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The Kid (Derby)
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 12:40 pm:   

I was countering Chip's Obama comment.
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Dave Rymal (Dave_rymal)
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 12:16 pm:   

Derby, Mitt or Newt have bigger things to deal with. It`s local elections that count for us. Big banana an Illegal wont even get a ticket. DFG knows they are uncollectible. Tree huggers and seal huggers don`t out number us they are only 10 percent, count themselves as the majority and get 90 percent of the press. Just read the Trib.
Capt Dave
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Bob Hather (Windfall)
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 11:49 am:   

Joe, the entire post was a cut and paste from another source. I was not the author. However, I do agree with your point. There was an earlier post about a Google ad about fishing from an environmental group blasting the PSO. They said the PSO was for killing sealions and against marine reserves. Damm right, and that's why the Central Coast Fishing Conservation supports the PSO and contributed $10,000. Reserves without the money to monitor the effects is not a scientific approach to marine management. And I would say that the increased population of sealions which has grown from 20,000 in the 70's to 900,000 today takes too large of a share of the bait biomas (16 billion pounds annually). I can't control who advertises on this site.
Bob
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hugh mccaffrey (Inspect7018)
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 11:15 am:   

lets believe we can help ourselves.
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The Kid (Derby)
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 9:47 am:   

And Mitt or Newt is?

Your kidding yourself if you think these two ass-hats are going to help us.
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John Gregory (Big_banana)
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 9:46 am:   

what do you think it would cost for a mexcian national to fish in U.S. waters.I bet there are some serious hurdels
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Chip Tamagni (Fishfitr)
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 2:44 am:   

Obama ain't no big brother of mine.
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JOE CARRILLO (Heloc)
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Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 8:19 pm:   

Hey Bob Hather, in your post you said that we have "Lots of hurdles ahead to restore our freedoms" and I'd be the first to agree with you, but you used as one of your examples the Coronado islands. Mexico owns those islands. It's there country and they get to set the rules, like them or not. Mexico ain't America and it never will be. As to the DOD and Homeland Security post. Yikes! Big Brother is definitely here!
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Tim Foley (Tree_doc)
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Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 12:31 pm:   

On a related note, has anyone paid attention to the Banner Ads at the top of this page? Specifically the one titled "Something's Fishy"

Things that make you go "Hmmm?"
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JB (5150)
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Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 3:48 am:   

The article that you linked up Mike is what is becoming common practice. It has been confirmed that the limited amount of F&G wardens in the southern California can not effectively patrol all the existing closures along with the new ones. So to assist the DFG, homeowners of Laguna Beach in Orange County along with some Dana Point & Point Loma residence are reporting to the DFG if anyone is spotted in or near the closed areas. As we know, these closures apply to the commercial guys as well. The commercial lobster fleet has been reduced to 1/3 or less of the areas they were allowed to set traps last year. Their traps are darn near stacked on top of each-other. Wonder what those watchdogs will think when their lobster's are costing about $50.00 plus per pound.

It appears that the DFG and the MLPA's are coming down hard for the southern California anglers, sport and commercial. I hope they are done up here......but I believe they want to stop fishing entirely.
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Rick von Stein (Deep_star)
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 8:37 pm:   

The vigilantes are here Tallyho. I don't like the looks of that rope and yardarm.
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mike manning (Tallyho)
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 7:06 pm:   

Check this out http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-fishing-ban-20111231,0,4136717 .story?track=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Fe ed%3A+latimes%2Fnews%2Flocal+%28L.A.+Times+-+California+|+Local+News%29&utm_content=My+Yahoo
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Rick von Stein (Deep_star)
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 5:23 pm:   

Bob Hather:
An excellent and distressing post. When we think of totalitarianism, we tend to judge the term in the blatant terms of world events of the 1940s or 50s but what we are now enduring is a more insidious form of the same kind of beast. It will take generations to unravel it. Let's start now by recognizing that the Police State is now here.
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JB (5150)
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 4:38 pm:   

I can confirm on the Mexican Visa situation.

As of January 1, 2012, the mexican government enacted the Visa rule for all parties fishing in Mexican waters to also be accompanied with your mexican fishing licenses if fishing within twenty nautical miles of the mexican coastline. The only exclusions are for vessels traveling through these waters and not engaged in fishing. All private boats fishing these waters in mexico must first obtain Mexican Visa permit for each party on the vessal.They must have a this visa along with their mexican fishing license. Upon the end of the fishing party, the visa's are to be returned back to the issuing vendor it was purchased for. Additionally there is a time line that they visa's can be purchased before the trip and the return time back to the vendor. The only vendors for private boats to purchase these permits and Visa's is the Mexican Consolute in san diego or a tackel store in Dana Point. All parties requiring these visa's have to get there own visa's in person.

To say it's a fiasco is puting it mildly. Then there's the F3 licensing issue but hat a whole another headache. This is a Mainland vs Baja to make money in thier waters. The permiting of Guadalupe island did'nt profit out like they thought for the past couple of years so this is a another approach to bring in revenue money for the government. Then it's up to Baja and the mainland to figure out what percentage of the cut they get.

It a complete mess and there only hoping to get a few changes before the season begins down there. One thig for sure, it's going to be more expensive to go fishing on any of the boats down there.
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Mark Trejo (Mary Jane III) (Markt)
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 10:09 am:   

Wow that does suck
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Mike Blackstone (Blackie)
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 5:05 pm:   

DAMM BOB
that just reeks of a violation of there rights , what next? do you know if that VISA requirements for MEXICO is a for sure thing , I read about it but was under the impression it was not cast in stone yet .
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Bob Hather (Windfall)
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 10:59 am:   

FYI:
I understand that PG&E wants to close our waters to fishing for the 3 months they plan to do their seizmic study during the fall.
Below are 2 posts from the fishing forum, "Bloody Decks". This gives
you just one example of what's happening on the water off our coast.
Add to this the MLPA and Mexican "Visa" fiasco, and recreational
boating and fishing in CA is on its way out.

Saturday, one of the sport fishing boats from San Diego went out to
the Coronado Islands for a 3/4 day fishing trip. They made sure
everyone on board had their new Mexican visas, passports and fishing
licenses. Once at the Islands, they were boarded by the Mexican
Federales and asked to produce a "boat permit". No one knew what the
heck that was, and they weren't interested in seeing any of the
documentation that is actually required. They had to leave the
Islands and come back into US waters.

Lots of hurdles ahead to restore our freedoms.


Ryan writes:

So most everyone knows that to discharge a firearm on the water you
need to be outside of state waters, greater than 3 miles from shore
(at least in CA). Knowing this we set out to shoot some trap off the
Orange County coast.

Half way through our session, an OC sheriff's boat comes
up, then another, then a HELICOPTER... some boater had
called us in.

Even though it was obvious we were breaking no law, the OC
Sheriff on the loudspeaker said several times YOU ARE
BEING DETAINED. We had to have hands on our heads, no
movement for 15min+. Then finally their new "Homeland
Security Mission" boat arrived and commenced to board us.
We were handcuffed, transferred to their boat, while the
deputies searched our boat inside and out (without
asking).

On the Sheriff's "Homeland Security Boat" I realized there
was a US Customs and Border Patrol officer present. Since
we were outside of 3 miles I determined that he was the
agent in charge for conducting such a boarding and search
operation.


Any thoughts on this encounter? On what basis did they
have the right to board and search our boat? Did OC
Sheriff have proper authority to detain us BEFORE the
federal agent arrived on the other boat?

Overall it was a benign experience and we just wanted to
get it over with, but it took an hour of our time and we
were considerably nervous when over the loudspeaker they
told us "DO NOT MOVE, OR WE WILL SHOOT... WE WILL SHOOT TO
KILL" and themselves pointing ARs and shotguns at us...

Seems ridiculous one can get hassled to this extent in
federal waters without any probable cause of wrongdoing.



Response from Glenn:

Welcome to the new order! I work along the edge of DOD and Homeland
Security. Aint they great?

You no longer have any protections of your 4th amendment
rights. Many of your constitutional protections as well as
the first 13 revisions, AKA Bill of Rights are long gone.
OC Sheriff is empowered under Federal Authority to do
whatever they want to do, so long as a Federal Homeland
Security goon is summoned. The definitions of what you can
be hassled for, detained for and arrested for, with no
obligation on the governments part to charge you, or let
you go, are essentially without limit and enormously
broad.

Your discharge of firearms, the way you stated it, was
completely legal under any jurisdiction. That is not the
problem. You looked like a fun excuse to spend tax dollars
in a mission response. The cost to go out there
and violate your rights (if you still had them) was likely
a thousand dollars all up. They got to point their guns at
some poor man and project their authority. Limitless
authority at that. You got off easy. Believe me. They
could have impounded the entire rig, heaved you in front
of a Federal Magistrate and held you for a year, without
formally charging you. Oh. It is also Federally Illegal
for you to even speak to an attorney until the Feds say
its OK.

Most folks don't have a clue about the dramatic changes to
their country until they get the bad end of one of these
encounters. The goal never had much to do with anti
terrorism. They were after your rights. They accomplished that
mission.
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Dave Flack (Antikbuff)
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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 10:39 pm:   

Striper Coalition Attacks the Fish and Game Striped Bass Eradication Plan

California Fish and Game, under a court order backed by the San Joaquin and Kern county water contractors, has proposed a disastrous plan to eliminate striped bass from the San Francisco Bay and Delta. The Fish and Game Commission will hold a hearing on the plan at its February 2nd meeting in Sacramento. The Commission can kill the DFG plan if they vote it down. A large coalition including Water4Fish has undertaken a letter writing campaign opposing the DFG plan. We have made it very easy to send an email to the Commission expressing your opposition. If you have not yet sent an email, please do so. We must kill this thing. Click here and follow instructions www.Water4Fish.org/striper . So far we have almost 2,000 letters that have been sent but we need more. Water4Fish will have a booth at the International Sportsmen’s Expo in Sacramento Jan 19 – 22nd where we will distribute literature and answer questions on this issue. The booth number is 3737 in the Pavilion. Please stop by and show your support. The Golden Gate Salmon Association has labeled the DFG predation plan deeply flawed. GGSA will propose an alternate plan at the hearing which will protect both stripers and salmon. You can see the GGSA full letter proposal at:

www.GoldenGateSalmonAssociation.com Under News at the right side, click on Striped Bass Alternative. You can get a discount for the show at http://www.sportsexpos.com/promo.cfm?LNK=874



Golden Gate Salmon Association Launches a Short Term Salmon Rebuilding Plan

The Golden Gate Salmon Association (GGSA) has initiated a plan to identify short range projects that can boost the production of fall run and wild salmon stocks at an early date. Victor Gonella, President of GGSA said, “All the Central Valley salmon runs have crashed and some remain at great risk in spite of the open fishing seasons. We must cure some of the huge losses of salmon smolts in the rivers and in the Delta or we can lose these fish forever.” He added, “We have found a lot of salmon plans on paper but we have not found the actions underway that can bring early results.” GGSA is particularly disturbed that the Bay Delta Conservation Plan will provide little or no help in rebuilding the salmon stocks. The GGSA activity will seek up to 25 projects that can be initiated at early dates without extraordinary costs and can make a significant difference in the rebuilding process. GGSA has obtained the services of two independent scientists to help develop the plan. The fishery agencies will also help in selecting and ranking the most promising projects. The plan is targeted for completion by June of 2012.



Thanks for your continuing support. 80,000 supporters have now signed our petitions demanding better water policies for fish.
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anthony contino (Greengrouper)
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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 6:11 pm:   

Thanks Stickman! :-( Anymore bad news?
Perchin has been suckin,,,
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Dave Pratt (My_three_sons)
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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 4:42 pm:   

never, ever, had a problem with tangles with the lead on top and bottom of a sabiki for dabs...just do not let the rig freefall to the bottom...it's like dropping a bounce ball rig or doing "pulls" using an old school sinker release for salmon...control the descent and you will be absolutely fine...not to worry
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Pete A. (Aloha_kai)
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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 12:04 pm:   

R Marti: I have had the best luck rigging my own multi-hook jigs with lead at the bottom. I use heavier line than the sabiki rigs (20-25 lbs.) and keep the leaders short to prevent tangling (about 2-3 inches) and use the biggest hooks I guess would fit into the mouth of a big sand dab. I don't tie on any feathers and use cut squid that i hook in a ball on the hook, trying to minimize little strips hanging off the bait. The size of the bait is designed to be so big that it will only fit into the mouth of the bigger fish. The way it was told to me, sand dabs run in schools so thick that they cover the entire bottom, and when your jig hits the bottom, the smaller fish go for the bait first. If you have small hooks and bait, you will almost always load up on the little tiny guys before the bigger fish have a chance to bite. With the bigger hooks, the small fish attack the bait and draw attention without being able to get hooked, then the bigger fish swoop in and get hooked up. Not sure what the current regs are on number of hooks, but I usually tie 5 or 6 on a jig and do well with that. And John is right; these little buggers are super aggressive and will climb up your line at least 3 or feet off the bottom to get to the bait, so I always rig with a weight at the bottom and keep tension on it so it stands up straight, preventing tangles. The other trick is to let the first fish hook itself, then wait until it feels like your jig is loaded before you reel in. The first hookup will attract more big fish, and if you are patient and in a good spot you can usually end up with at least 3 or 4 fish on a pull. My best luck has always been on or around the 200 foot line where the bottom is sandy. Good luck! Pete
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John Gregory (Big_banana)
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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 10:39 am:   

that rig works great for tangles. sand dabs are agerssive and will come up 3 ft. to eat.save yourself some rigs and just use lead on the bottom
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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 9:26 am:   

R Marti; copied from a previous post - "Great dab rig...put lead at the bottom AND top of a sabiki...so it lays flat...tip with squiddly..."
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Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 7:15 pm:   

No Matt, It would be pretty hard to make a living on 10 rockfish a day. they are bound by a seperate set of rules and seasons along with quotas
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Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 5:56 pm:   

I noticed what appeared to be a commercial live fish operation this week in the shallow reefs off Gaviota, are they not bound by the same no rock fish rules that recreational anglers are or what?
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Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 8:45 am:   

What's a good sandab rig? Was bounce balling fri and caught one and it was tasty.
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Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 9:33 pm:   

prepare to pay more to fish steelhead.... http://www.sacbee.com/2012/01/13/4186777/restoring-steelhead-trout-in- calif.html
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Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 8:38 pm:   

Kermit, i see that craigs list has a minn kota 52lb trust motor for sale. 250.00 with foot controls inculded. good luck
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Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 5:03 pm:   

We caught about 100 sandabs today of various sizes in 155-175 feet of water off the rock. Great conditions.
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Pete A. (Aloha_kai)
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Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 4:33 pm:   

Thanks, Stickman.

Pete
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Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 4:07 pm:   

it expired on dec 31 with your sportfishing license
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Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 12:54 pm:   

I purchased a Sport Ocean Enhancement Validation stamp last year for fishing lobster at the Channel Islands, and there is no expiration date showing on the stamp or anywhere on the DFG site. Does anyone know if and when this stamp expires?

Thanks, Pete
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Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 10:07 am:   

Fished Rosey Rocks yesterday for 6 small perch. 1 barred & 5 Walleye. Camo sandworms. When I finally found the right spot was getting bit almost every cast.
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Posted on Friday, January 13, 2012 - 9:50 pm:   

Count me in Greg.
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Posted on Friday, January 13, 2012 - 7:00 pm:   

Anglers Anonymous is inviting you to join us for the following event:

Come interact with a special guest speaker who will come and talk to us this Tuesday night at 7pm at the Quarterdeck Restaurant in AG located in the k-mart shopping center.

I need a head count so to reserve your FREE seat, email me by Monday AM. Seating is limited to 44.

Charles Villafana is the recreational fisheries coordinator for the Southwest Region (California) of the National Marine Fisheries Service. He is going to give a brief presentation and will be available for Q and A.

Seal issues
Live bait
Rock fish barotrauma
Salmon and Steelhead
Halibut
MPA issues
Party boat issues
Commercial fishing issues
Thresher shark programs
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Albacore data collection and so much more.
You dont want to miss this!
To get more in depth information see the action plan online at
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Posted on Friday, January 13, 2012 - 3:57 pm:   

I would say tide every time and surf conditions , if the winds blowing off shore its ok , onshore just makes it almost impossible to cast .
Next week is looking to be a good week, for tides and wind and surf conditions , get them wet suits out and go get em.
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Posted on Friday, January 13, 2012 - 2:44 pm:   

Yeah from my experience in fishing from shore and the piers, it has been all about the tide. Good luck!
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Posted on Friday, January 13, 2012 - 1:41 pm:   

I say tide is the #1 factor. I have done very well at all times of day when the tide is right, but have taken the stripe more than once on beautiful early mornings with perfect conditions but a lousy low tide.
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Posted on Friday, January 13, 2012 - 11:22 am:   

FYI Wally world AG has the camo sand worms, far right side of the tackle aisle

Which is more important, time of day or icoming tide??

Thanks
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Posted on Friday, January 13, 2012 - 10:49 am:   

I fish perch this time of year, was just out yesterday. Tried to buy sandworms at 'been there caught that' in SM but they were out of bloody and camo. so I tried a new color- 'natural'. It KILLED 'em. C&R'd a nice mix of barred and calico perch with some real hogs in the mix.

I break out the flyrod in summer, when its really flat and calm. Last year I only got to do it a couple of times but man it was fun. Also, have caught two steelhead on the bloody worm. This years goal - a legal 'butt from the surf!
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Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 9:30 am:   

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Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 9:21 am:   

thanks guys for all the info on the perch bite. when i go, i have two rods set up. i lightwait spinning or casting outfit with camo sand worms (will get some reds as well), and my fly rod with sand crab imitations.

will avoid the creek side of the mouth, and focus on the surfline. seems a LOT easier with no swell. and work the incoming 2 hours to peak high tide. awesome, thanks for the tips

i come from a trout fishing background, so i just like getting some and letting them go, don't mind the fact that i get fewer fish and smaller fish on the fly rod, just fun to do. if that doesn't work, i can always go to the standard rigs.

i have most mondays free to fish, so if anybody wants to meet on the water on a monday, let me know. this weekend is a holiday, so i may take my two boys out this monday.

tight lines!
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Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 8:48 am:   

CARLOKE
we have a guy in our club that fishes a fly rod also , uses a small red fly , I think it a imitation sand crab, he does ok , not as good as the bloody sand worms , and hugh is right , dont wander into the creek side ,
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Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 6:52 am:   

Bob, that was the same gopher I caught three years ago. I wrote down the tag number, gps #'s and released it. Cal Poly sent me $20 and a report. The fish moved .1 meters from where it was released some years back.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 - 9:52 pm:   

Carloke-- i thought i've read that the mouths of the rivers are closed also but can't find it. either way be sure to be on the ocean side cause the warden wont be thinking your fishing perch and you will have to have a filled out enhancement card for the river that is only open certain days. i am down at la conchita fishing a good bite of perch till sat.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 - 7:00 pm:   

Hey Mike, thanks for the info! I went to Avila monday, mostly just to cast my fly rod, but tied on a minnow pattern and swung a few through the incoming currents at the mouth of the creek. It was the hour before high tide, up to peak high tide, at 6'. No takers. But, the surf was up, and it was the wrong lure for perch.

I have some imitation sand crabs coming in the mail this week, so I am planning on slaying them perch myself. I will do most of my fishing down here in Avila and Pismo, since it is only a few minutes from home. But, I guess if I really want to slay them, I will have to head up north!
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Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 - 5:37 pm:   

CARLOKE
I prefer the two hours before a high tide for them perch , and I have no idea about pismo , never fished there , prefer cambria north .
And there are no rules that say you can< t fish the mouths of the creeks that flow into the ocean , you just cant have HARPOONS , PITCHFORKS , SNAGGING GEAR with you , otherwise DFG will think you are taking steelhead , and you could catch one if the incoming water is such that the fish will come in , I have had some friends catch them at little pico , on the perch gear , they were released .
Good luck , gonna try next week when the surf settles down.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 - 12:05 pm:   

so, getting ready to do some more surf perch fishing. decent fishing in pismo? best is morning or evening on either side of high tide, but how are evening low tides? i figure if the water is moving, it should stir up food and get the fish feeding, especially in low light. so, does low tide on the flood work as well?

also, are there any regs for fishing at the mouth of san luis creek? nice current running out of there at high tide, i bet there are some feeding fish. i seem to remember a rule about fishing at the mouth of the creek being prohibited, but can't find it in the regs.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 - 11:38 am:   

In my opinion and experience....

Best hanging crab bait is albacore and/or seabass.

It is also a good idea to have a few bait jars filled with frozen, cut squid and chovies/macks.

Frozen so it doesn't start to milk until after it has hit bottom and settled.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 - 11:27 am:   

Bob try chicken in your traps. I buy 10 lb bags of frozen legs and thighs. I have tried everything and the chicken seems to work best.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 - 11:15 am:   

Looking for a reliable used Minn Kota Riptide 50/SC or 45/SC trolling motor- been checking CL - just wondering if anyone needs encouragement to sell.

Please email gorivera@calpoly.edu with condition and price.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 - 10:47 am:   

a reminder that Steelhead cards from last year have to been sent back to DFG
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Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 - 7:20 am:   

Today I learned the a tag I retrieved in 2011 from a gopher cod was placed on the fish four years ago. I caught the gopher off Hazard in the same place it was taged. There wasn't much change in the size of the fish either. FYI
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Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 - 7:11 am:   

We put 5 crab pots in 230 ft of water off Cayucos in an area that the GPS identified as sand. In three days we caught three crabs. We used squid for bait. On the second day the current was so strong that the floats with 350 ft of line were pulled under water. Last evening at low tide there was no current and we found our floats.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 11:06 pm:   

last post meant to say " has anybody caught any " its been a long day
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 11:03 pm:   

has any been catching any flatties lately out of MB ? i dont need numbers, just incentive to spend diesel
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 6:59 pm:   

I would like to add a little to what Sharon said.I remember when the rock cod limit was 20 per person.At that time you could also buy a commercial license that was good on a party boat.The guys that did that usually had a rig with ten shrimp flies on their line.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 6:14 pm:   

I must say on the days I was out last year and this year when the WSB were happening... I was "Impressed" by the amount of boats in tight quarters that worked together... I've heard of some shorts already being caught... Thats Good!!!
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 11:55 am:   

Hugh, I so appreciate your apology. We have a number of things we agree about. I think this is a healthy discussion because we are able to get our opinions out. I dont necesarily want more people out fishing our area. Unless, it is people like the friends and family members we are taking out already. I want fishing to be available to those individuals who want to enjoy it and add to the fishing community by supporting the business that depend on fishermen. I want the fishery to be strong for our children and grand children.

As to tournaments, I want that to be a fun activity for FISHERMEN. I dont want 50 boats invading our waters. We are working on ways to make it so that will NOT happen. Even our last tournament with 68 anglers had about 25 boats. But if we open up MB and PSL then the load on any one port would be minimal. Then open up a few weeks to fish during the tournament with the last day being the awards ceremony and you get the idea.
We will work together to make sure this HELPS our local fishery. My life is so much better because of the fishing I have been able to do and the very last thing I want to do is in any way hurt that.
The biggest exception to introducing NEW fishermen to our area will be the ONE day where we give back to the Wounded Warriors who gave up arms and legs so we can have the freedom we enjoy each and every day. Many of these guys will be from out of our area and will fish here one day in their whole life. I for one can easily give them a day they will always remember. I also dont think this will in any way hurt our fishery.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 11:25 am:   

Marti, no offense taken, I dont share stuff like that with more than a few guys I know I can trust Last thing I want to do is give away anything we worked so hard for. If a guy takes me fishing and wants to learn a good spot to fish, I am going to show him because ... ..ready for this ... (I am in the same boat)

As a club we arent sitting around giving numbers to each other. These guys already know where to fish a few of them were fishing before I was even born.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 11:01 am:   

Charlie
They do have some better tuna south of us , but there bottom fishing can,t even compare to ours , theres more guys from south of ventura on the boats and they will tell you there fishing sucks for the bottom dwellers
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 10:33 am:   

Thank you Sharon for sharing your years of knowledge with us.
If anyone has seen what has gone on in our local waters it is the people who spend their life working on it.
I have only been here 20 years but my opinion is that the fishing has been pretty good most of those years.
I wish we had the variety of fish the south has but I think we have it pretty good in Cen Cal.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 9:57 am:   

Just an observation: As far as the rock fishing, I don't think there are too many fishermen. In the 70's and 80's there were several sport fishing landings with at least 12 boats taking out passengers and we could fish all year round. Plus there were several "hook and liners". The draggers pretty much didn't fish where the recreational fishermen did, but for awhile some gill-netters did. Compared to then, I think all the fishermen sport fishing in this area now are not hurting the population. It has been good to see big schools of juvenile fish around too, we've had to leave areas a few times because of it. As far as the WSB and other fish, I think it's understandable how protective some guys can be. One day we were charging up the coast on the "Harbor Pathfinder" and I saw a bunch of private boaters fishing above Cayucos outside the kelp. I thought I'd swing a little closer to see if anyone was hooked into a halibut. After getting closer I realized they were fishing for WSB and I kicked myself knowing that I probably made some of them mad by disturbing the fishing. I always wanted to get on this website and apologize for that, so now I am.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 8:03 am:   

"its never going to be as good as it used to be" I had the best year rock fishing i have ever had even though i hav only been fishing here 30 years i am still a greenie
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 7:42 am:   

I feel the need to qualify a couple of things that I said. Or maybe should not have said...Once you press send its to late...

R Marti & Hugh Please dont think when I said haters, a-hole thing I had anyone specific in mind. I was generlizing... Bad choice of words...

Beacuse really my view is very close to yours... I was out there in MB and PSL when WSB where on, thats was alot of boats. There was no club then. I feel that it is mostly local fisherman we just all go on the same day.

Ive surfed my whole life so I understand the concept of localizm too! I too will let Marty do my reports, for obvious reasons.

I am really not a club person! However I do understand things need to get done. And I have never had alot of free time to give. So I am appreaciative of those that do give there time freely. I will supprt that. Some one has to do the good work. Even if its not you or me. I dont know how the whole MLPA thing got dragged into this?

Pegleg is doing a good thing I will support him. I just may fish somewhere different to avoid the crowds when I choose...Paul
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 7:04 am:   

R marti. With that attitude your right we no have chance but with the clubs attitude and the members we have so far I have no doubt that we can change things. Before you start bumbing your lips about the club show and see what were all about. If your to busy to help out the sport fishery than don't run your mouth about it. If you do nothing than the tree huggers get what they want but with out tree huggers think what major corporation would be doing over commerical fishing dumping waste into the ocean. R guy seems u just like against the grain. I'm all about kepting our fish clean and stocked with fish to eat.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 6:54 am:   

There are already too many people fishing here. There are too many people fishing everywhere. Just loved it 2 years ago when I called in my buddy when I found the tuna. 50 boats in 30 minutes killed the bite. I have trouble saying much anymore if there are a lot of guys out.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 6:54 am:   

I moved here in 1969 after I got out of the Army,got my first commercial fishing license in 1970, there are no secret spots, just one's you haven't found yet. Fishing is never going to be what it used to be so get over it.Go fishing, be safe and have a good time.When the fish are all gone we'll hunt politicians for sport.
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Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 10:33 pm:   

R Marti: The salmon/white sea bass enhancement programs. Are exactly one of the main programs we plan to support. To be a nonprofit, we have to issue to the IRS a club mission statement. As to what we are trying to accomplish. It will require much paperwork and accounting. If this club gets off the ground. I hope you catch some of the WHITE SEA BASS we help raise with our donations. People here have several things in common. Keep the fishing going here on our coast, for everyone. Not just the select few. I'm sure you agree a organized group doing something good has more clout with Politicians than one person.
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Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 8:56 pm:   

Does not seem to matter who is in the White House, or what data you have. Tree huggers and seal cuddlers out number us, people that know very little at all about the fishing industry are sending big bucks because they think that seals and fish are cute. How do you fight that???
I personaly do not have the time to participate in any fish club, but since the closure of the Salmon enhancement program which I backed from the very begining, I hope that the funds that this club generates will go to an equally formitable rearing facility.

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