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David Joseph Anderton (Bbq)
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Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 10:57 pm:   

Hello again,
Last week I shared a question, how does the DFG. know where the fish come from? My buddy ansewered from Montery. The fish counters at the dock. What will they to our fishing if one of these fish with no Atapost fin are turned in and it is from the Klamoth, river this year?
Our solution, look the fish over really good before putting it in the net, if it has no fin let it go, they are not counting them as natural spawners, then when it spawns the next generation will be born with the fin.
The rules say we cannot cut the heads off or clean fish on our boats or in the water.
They do not say we cannot let them go.

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Joseph & Tami Anderton
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Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 10:44 pm:   

Hello Everyone,

No punt intended, if anyone of our crew has to ask if a Salmon, is of legal limit? We let it go, a 20 inch Salmon, weight will be about 4 to 5 pounds average.
Our net man looks the fish over and decides while still in the water.
If you pull the Salmon, up along side the boat they will be thrashing and rolling, slide your hand down the line to the flasher or just in front of the bait or spoon, swim the fish for a few moments and they will calm down, this is when we slide the hook out of there mounth and let them go. The commercial fisherman slide a gaff down the line to the hook and they come off.
Talking with the fish and game and the biologist, they say if you take any of the slim off the body you are stripping their wet suit off , not to mention putting them in the net handeling them and stripping of scales. At this point you are turning a fish loose that will die of hypothermia.

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Joseph & Tami Anderton
BBQ.
PS. If the small the fish are bleeding from the mouth or gills we take them.
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Ray Cloud (Cloud)
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Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 9:37 am:   

I note at CA DFG website there are gear restrictions for sanddab take. Anybody now what they are and can post? TX Cloud out
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Michele (Fiesta)
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Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 7:28 pm:   

...or does it?
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Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 5:54 pm:   

Commercial salmon does not open until May 1st.
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Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 3:15 pm:   

Saw commercial trollers a few miles off of Pismo today. Anyone hear how the commercial guys are doing?
Only about 650,000 seconds until we can fish for salmon!
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Melvin A. de la Motte, Jr. (Fishinaddict)
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Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 11:58 am:   

Friends:

Please get your tickets to the April 8 fundraiser for the Central Coast Fisheries Conservation Coalition at Virg's. $35 each. Fish-Fry dinner with free drinks. Great Auction and raffle items. Support our efforts to protect your fishing rights. I will have tickets also to mail if you call 544-2424 and leave detailed instruction.

I will stay in touch.

Mel
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Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 8:21 am:   

If you tap the salmon on the head u will knock it out, then u can pull the gill, and the fish won't thrash around and bruise the meat. Some commercials actually stun the fish while it's still in the water before gaffing. You'll have better quality and no messy blood everywhere.

Tight Lines
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Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 8:15 am:   

Thanks for the info everybody, I will see some of you guys at morro next week.
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Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 7:06 am:   

Josh, as soon as you get the fish out of the net and you know it's a legal salmon to keep, reach under the gill plate grab hold of the gills and yank..I have a bleed box...They will flop around and blood can get all over so I just shut the lid on the cooler (kill box)..You can then rinse the fish and clean up the mess....As soon as posible...Gut, including the blood line, and gill..There is a knife with a spoon on it for the bloodline I just use an salmon spoon if I need it...Now, belly ice the fish and put it in the fish box, Different from the kill box..Hope this helps....John
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Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 10:47 pm:   

I trolled around a little today. A couple hours, not too far from the entrance. No biters. I will try again tomorrow, maybe radar bouy area. Saw some bait that was pushed up, water is murky light green. FYI: I don't use hooks until the 1st.
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Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 9:11 pm:   

I didn't see allot of names on the salmon derby list down at Virge's. Let's all get down there and sign up, the money goes for a very worthy cause.......A new auto pilot for the Sissy
Heh Heh
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Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 9:03 pm:   

Ice first or no ice, hot fish or not.
The most important thing with any kind of fish you are taking. First thing is bleeeding them, especially if they are still pumping, I mean there heart is still pumping.
The quality of meat is at least 90% cleaner and whiter.

Best regards,
Joseph Anderton
BBQ

PS. A few years ago started long range fishing, the friend who took me along has been doing this for over 25 years.
He and I talked about it, he thought it did not make a difference.
At the end of our 5 day I cut the gills on every fish I caught, he did not. The crew was upset at me for making a bloody mess on there decks and sounded me about it.
When all was said and done, the fish dividing was between blood tanited tuna or fresh looking rainbow white tuna. Nothing else needed be said between us.
From that trip forward he cut the gills while the heart was still pumping.
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Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 5:29 pm:   

Good point swordman. I knew that tuna "ran hot" but did nor realize that salmon did also. The point is that all fish should be iced immediately after being caught for optimum freshness and flavor. Let's pack those ice chests next week with bright kings!
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Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 3:21 pm:   

correction, salmon, tuna and swordfish do not "come out of the water" at sea temp. They have such a high metabolic rate that their internal organs are a higher temp, thus susceptable to "belly burn" which can seriously impact the flesh (salmon and swords especially). Please note that comm salmon and swords gill, gut and pack in ice immedialtely..
former swordman
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Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 2:22 pm:   

hello from sw florida..took a little break from the unseasonable cold of the central coast... a little walk down the path for fly fishing tarpon a few hours at the crack of dawn ..take in a spring training expo game around mid-day, then it's cocktails at poolside overlooking the private dock...yea, life is good.
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Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 8:20 am:   

Always better to put any fish on ice if you want the best quality eating. Salmon come out of the ocean at the current ocean temperature, which is in the low to mid 50s, which is cool, so they will last OK in the hold, but icing them down is the best bet. Albacore, on the other hand must be iced to maintain the best eating.

Will
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Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 7:47 am:   

I was wanting to know if you have to put salmon on ice after you gut them or just put them in the hold.Any answers.. josh
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Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 6:57 am:   

Hi Eric!

Eric and Ophiodon are totally correct. Without numbers all you can do is wave your arms as an argument.

This has been beaten into us over the past couple of years.

Howard.
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Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 5:43 am:   

how do they use the data when four or five anglers on a boat come in with only a couple rock fish? or no salmon. times that by 10 or 12 boats its not a good picture when it comes to fish counts. i see them write info like that down. do they figure this as declining fish stocks? i tend to think the checker could be a double edge sword.....
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Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 9:30 pm:   

Mike:

Excellent points! Garbage in - Garbage out. Without good data, the regulators will, by law, fall back on the "precautionary approach," meaning they will be more restrictive than really necessary.

Sound fishery management relies on good data. It's all about stock assessment. Not only is your example about canaries spot-on, on the flip side if year after year the fish counters are showing healthy fish populations by their counts, then that helps to prove that things are healthy and not in need of drastic measures.

So please guys and gals, give the scientists and statiticians what they need. Otherwise, they will have to make it up from bad data.

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Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 8:22 pm:   

Fish Checkers: CRFS
To all you who think not giving up your salmon heads to the fish checkers at the dock, BAD IDEA!!!!
Why?

Because if DFG doesn't get up to date data they can ONLY use the data available!!! Which means, they have to use the data that is shutting down Monterey to Astoria, OR! WE NEED TO PROVE THEM WRONG! IF Monterey Bay has so few Klamath fish (as I think) Then we need to give up every adiposed clipped fish head we can to PROVE THEM WRONG!!

Same thing for rockcod, if we don't give them good information, then they have to use the information they get. So, if 1 guy out of 10 shows the checker his fish and there is say 5 Canary RF, then gues what...they apply that idiot's Canary catch to ALL THE ANGLERS!!! Making it seem as if we catch the wrong fish all the time!!

Just a thought, a buddy of mine was a fish checker, and got lots of grief. Get real, how many of us have jobs where he gets yelled at or bad mouthed by everyone he sees. It's not the fish checker who's doing this, it's the dumb!#!$#! statisticians!!!
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Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 2:28 pm:   

NIB OUTRIGGER HOLDERS--Will sell or trade for Garmin type chartplotter typ C. Pd $250 at BW. Also looking to trade for small OB 4/5 HP.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 10:03 am:   

ANNOUNCEMENT: Mark's Marine has agreed to Salmon Petition at his store on W. Betteravia in Santa Maria. North SB County fishers Please take a moment to go by and sign it if haven't already done. The PFMC could close our season at any time and this is your chance to voice that they don't. I will personally ensure it gets to the right place at the right time.

Will, been a supporter of CCSE for a long time--since Cleveland was the Biologist. Most fun I ever had was netting (big!) spawners in SLO Creek right there between the golf course bridges. To bad those days are gone. Connie might remember me. Was intrumental in getting a sizeable settlement donated to CCSE couple years back.

I'll just put this latest check in the mail today. It's not much now but maybe more after taxes.

Cloud out.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 8:44 am:   

FOR SALE

2 Cannon Uni-troll downriggers in like new condition. $150 each

Call Jim at 805-610-4498
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Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 7:57 am:   

Ray,
CCSE is Central Coast Salmon Enhancement and I think you want Coastside Fishing Club for your petition information. We can sure use that check though. I encourage all of you to join Coastside so that you can keep up with what is going on.
www.coastsidefishingclub.com

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Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 6:22 am:   

I will take one to Marks Marine in Santa Maria today, and will pick up before deadline, then mail to wherever it needs to go, even if I have to drive it there.

Marks Marine is on West Betteravia Road in SM. If salmon fishing is important to you--even if you are the neighbor who gets a freebie once in a while--please take 5 mins to go by and sign that petition.

Someone from CCSE please get in touch or post due date I would like it to go with the other signatures. I also have a check for you.

Cloud out
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Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 5:48 am:   

Thanks to all who signed the coastside petition at the CCSE fund raiser on Sat. We are on the way to getting 100,000 signatures! If you did not have a chance to sign there is still time. Virg's in Morro, 4 seasons in SLO,and Davis Boats in Paso all have petitions. I will take one to Port Side Marine in Avila today. Great job by all that made this meeting such a big success.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 8:16 pm:   

there are currently 400,018 people living in sacramento.
If most of the people licenced to fish in ca. went there to protest the closures that are proposed it would make a definate statement.
Im not sure of the number of fisherpeople that are licenced now but I think I recall 2.5 million last year?
food for thought... Im in, Bob
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Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 5:03 pm:   

If this crap keeps going there should be another quarter made that shows the ca. caostline with ared circle and diagonal line with the inscription "no fishing"
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Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 4:47 pm:   

Hey Marty, how ya doing?

One of my fishin' buddies was lookin' for a downrigger rod and there wasn't a single one at the Fred Hall Show when I went looking. I'll pass on your info and see if he is still in need.

I'm gonna try and get Josh off that new Bass boat and back on the ocean this season!

Take care.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 3:35 pm:   

most of the salmon issues are on the agenda for the 6th.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 1:38 pm:   

Electric downriggers for sale. (3) Proos XF Turbo downriggers. Bases. Rodholders. Long booms. 250.00 for all 3. Also a pair of new Shimano TDR 1802 Downrigger rods, $30.00 for the pair. 805.237.1886 mj@rajunkennels.com
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Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 8:03 am:   

FYI ALL

Coastside has bus trip going to Sac on the 4th
Seems if the trips could be coordinated for a massive showing would be even better? We should all be in this together so the point gets across loud n clear. Cloud out
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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 10:22 pm:   

Anyone going to Santa Rosa meeting on March 28th?
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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 9:18 pm:   

Joe,

If you and Tami are going, I'm in. I'll ask my dad to run for me. Let me know.
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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 9:12 pm:   

Hello Everyone,
Ray Cloud, thank you for backing up the quality of Holt's Custom Rods

THIS PART IS FOR ALL OF YOU WHO WISH TO KEEP FISHING AND WANT TO TAKE AN ACTIVE PART!
Down to fishing business, here is what's in the works.
The commercial fisherman are planning on joining forces and showing up April 6th, at the capital in Sacramento.
They are going to rent a bus at (no cost to anyone,) we, you are all invited to take the ride, bring your wife and kids, support the effort to keep our fishing seasons open, join in and make a showing.
April 6th, is the day before the final decisions are being made on how we, you will beable to fish from this day foward and years to come.

Please contact Wayn Moody, at www.fvcapriccio@yahoo.com
or call (805) 481-7425, please use e-mail if possible. Looking forward to seeing you on the bus.

Best regards,
Joseph & Tami Anderton
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PS. Thank you, Dick Hilyard, AKA. Ms. Macky, your Swiss Sausage donation was a hit at the CCSE. benefit Saturday night.
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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 8:17 pm:   

I apologise for my most recent post. It`s just hard to hold back when all of the injust decisions are being crammed down my throat.
Bob
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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 6:15 pm:   

Had a great time at the salmon seminar/dinner and came away with some good things to implement. Sure appreciate all the work that went into setting it up and that the money is going to a good cause. Looking at stuff and talking to a guy there and found out his son-in-law worked on the CG ship I was on in Coos Bay, OR in the late 70's. It truly is a small world. I think the name was Harold Franklin in Paso Robles, and if you read this please e-mail me so we can hook up with fishing and etc.
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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 4:15 pm:   

Thanks to everyone who helped by donating time, effort, food and drinks, prizes, knowledge, and money (guests), CCSE benefited about 5,000 toward the pen rearing project. It was good to see that there is still alot of interest in salmon. Now I hope the salmon will show some interest in our hooks. Thanks everyone!

Michele
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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 7:55 am:   

Just a quick note, Thanks to everyone at the seminar! it was great, learned a lot.
Fished Santa Margarita for a couple of trout caught on rappalas near the dam, on the troll.
Drew, I wouldn't feel too bad for that DFG guy, what is he nine feet tall?, I sure hope he steps into the middle of our boat when boarding, a capsize for sure:-)
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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 7:24 am:   

I had Larry wrap two rods several years ago and they have held up to some real & reel abuse. FWIW, RC
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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 7:09 pm:   

Hey John,

Larry Holt, Holt's Custom Rod's in Atascadero, does a fantastic job of rod wraping. He donated one of his rods to the CCFCC, two years ago it auctioned for over $350.00.
462-1996.

Best regards,
Joseph Anderton
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PS. He has wrapped quit a few for me.
Great attention to detail, the weaving work he does is beautiful.
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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 5:13 pm:   

Wes & Sissy:

Thanks for the kind words. I appreciate it and are glad that you enjoyed my talk. I had a few more interesting and amusing stories to tell, but felt a little bit like the deer in the headlights. I'll save them for next year I guess.

We at the Morro Bay Harbor Patrol, as well as the crew down at the Port San Luis Harpat, are always glad to pass on advice, info, and local knowledge to anyone who asks. Feel free to come on by or call any time.

Eric Endersby
Morro Bay Harbor Patrol
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Andrew Dunn (Drew_2452)
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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 5:09 pm:   

I wanted to say thank you to everyone involved in the salmon seminar my son and I had a blast. The food was outstanding. It definetly opened my eyes and showed me that I need to be more involved. My son who is only 11 had a great time and also wants to do what ever possible to help. It was great to put some faces with names. My son wanted me to add he was the kid walking around with the mohawk.

It may just be me but I felt a little note a little sorry for the DFG guy at the seminar. Maybe he just got thrown into it but after his presintation people seemed more confused than ever. I noticed when the floor opened for questions the guy started to sweat and studder. Just my observation I could be wrong. Thanx again guys for the seminar my family is going to make it a tradition from now on keep up the outstanding work.

Eric: great presintation my son enjoyed your story about the whale he wants to share it with his class on Mon.

Andrew
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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 11:38 am:   

Sissy,
I don't know if location is important to you but I have a guy down here in Arroyo Grande that does that work. He does a pretty good job too, I've had him build 5 or 6 Calstars and he's currently working on a couple new Seekers I bought at Fred Hall. He does a lot of re-wraps for Patriots boat rods and used to do a lot of work for Bob's Tackle Too when they were in business down here in So. County.

Drop me a line if you want his number.

Re: Salmon Seminar
I'm really bummed that we didn't make it. We planned to be there but something came up late in the day that prevented the run to Morro Bay. Glad to hear it was a success.
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Wes-BulaBula (Slotroller)
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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 10:37 am:   

Thanks to all those involved in the seminar last night, it was a great event. Nice to put some faces with the names from this board. We especially enjoyed Eric's discussion regarding some safety issues, we will be implementing many of those suggestions.

We are proud to support the enhancement program and officially joined last night.

Bob, thanks for the update, I just sent another email!

Dan, thanks for the effort. Everyone, it has never been easier for you to help when your help is most needed. The letters are