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Michael Gorgita (Gdoggsb)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 8:25 pm:   

WOOOHOOO this board is really rockin now that I have merely used my 1st amend. right and said what I feel...damn if it isn't getting hot in here with all flaming going on. Uhhhh arrogant, DEF... to claim, full of or due to pride, haughty..You guys got it all wrong..I just didnt like being pushed around by the Fiesta and I did what Costello said to do, but this mouse stood ground and flipped the bird. I have nothing personal against anyone...I mean just cause I say "think outside the box " when the fish aren't biting...this does not imply anymore than that. But someone had to label me as Arrogant...its funny that we teach all our kids not to label anyone in school......and look who gets labeled. I'll bet the farm all of you "Haters" out there are great people so I won't judge you and Ill still be fishing Morro bay like I have for twenty years and I'll still callout on 68 the depth and gear I used like I did on the openner, and Ill still roll through bait balls too because fishng is my way to relax, have some fun, and chill out. Kinda like all you guys I'll bet.. So if you really knew me....well enough said. Keep fishing and posting and I sure am going to see if I can join one of the Brophys safety meetings with my fellow teacher Dave and Stu Gdogg out.....PS oh yeah we had our lucky bananas on the boat too and they were goood!!!
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 8:12 pm:   

Hey bedstamore, Get on protroll.com and check out that website it might help you out a little, Also Michele thanks for calling us in on that bait ball sat.Thanks for the info
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 8:02 pm:   

Michele last weekend I heard you on the radio tell everyone when you found a baitball.Thanx for sharing the info. I think actions like that is what makes you and your crew in my book a cut above the rest.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 7:27 pm:   

geat imfo, i was wondering if any body ever runs a flasher,by its self,hooked sraight to the down rigger ball, just for more acktion? and what color of ball is good,or does matter? doders are 6 or 8 inch or more,what size are the flashers you guys are talking about?chome or brass like for trout fishing?
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 6:44 pm:   

Wes, your suggestion gave me an idea for naming my next (much bigger) boat:
(Bit*h Quitin)
Believe it or not the word bi*ch is not allowed here.
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JOHN COSTELLO (Taurus)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 6:05 pm:   

for the record.... i couldn't be paid nearly enough to do the work of the fiesta crew...the job is easy when catching... not so easy and full of doubt when no fish are hitting the kill box... everything becomes "political" then....best to wait till you have something to talk about
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 5:49 pm:   

Thanks for all the info. you guys...What about the Rotary Salmon Killer....Does it follow behind a Dodger or flasher? Or does it run off the downrigger ball by itself?
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 5:08 pm:   

sissy

to be fair, babysitting patrons on a cattle boat hardly makes one a commercial fishing captain...catch is the bottom line in commercial fishing , period..
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 4:57 pm:   

Pratt:
Sorry for the remark about school teachers. It was wrong. I've had some fine teachers. They just coundn't do much for my abhorant behavior. It's just that when I heard someone badmouthing our local commercial captain and her family, it made me flare. You can be sure that I am not the only one that was offended by that post. There are few people that do more for fishing in general, than this family.

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 4:56 pm:   

typical local trolling is up and down hill...anyone trolling crosswise usually gives right of way and crosses well behind......if you're getting edged out by a bigger boat while trolling: well then welcome to the world of the biggest boat and biggest balls win...i suggest slowing down and giving way...pass on the other side...regardless , the mouse always tries to get out from under the elephants foot
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 4:04 pm:   

If you want to catch salmon...you need to go where the salmon are. Sometimes radio fish work, more often than not they piss people off. So stay away from the other boats and no one will get pissed. If you are close to boats PAY ATTENTION....The best thing to do is find your own fish, how? Look for what fish need...FEED...and work it. If working around a baitball works for you, then you put fish in the box. If it doesn't work for you, then troll through the ball, break it up. Sometimes the salmon are there and need a different type of stimulation. It could be bumping the trottle or taking it out of gear a short period, dropping or raising your gear. If everyone is using one kind of gear and you don't get bit, try something else. You need to experiment.

Flasher and hootchie (or cuttlefish) will always produce, for me, IF THE FISH ARE THERE.

If you want fish go where they are. Sounds like they lit up at the Soquel hole today. That's where I would go in the morning if I wanted to catch fish. But if you want to just relax on your day of go to LOPEZ lake.

Michelle how's John doin in Santa Cruz? I'll be fishin, maybe catchin, when the outage is over, I'll even deck for you if you need.

Tight Lines
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 3:59 pm:   

Lot of guys in Or. and Wa. use leaders that exceed 6' behind a flasher.

Think of a dodger as giving movement to the lure. A lure behind a flasher will have it's own movement.
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DEN UEDA (Tin_can)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 3:00 pm:   

BEGINNER, and Maritime the difference between the Dodger and flasher besides movement is this, flashers spin and basically attract the salmon thru sight and vibrations felt by their lateral lines. But the dodger moves side to side causing the HOOCHIE to JET just like the squid that it is suppossed to look like That is why you dont want to go with a leader longer than 30" or you will lose the jetting action. Thats why dodgers are used with hoochies and flashers are used with lures. Den tincancaptin
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 2:36 pm:   

Here's my two cents: I use dodgers almost exclusively in front of an Apex or a Kroc with about a 30" leader between them. I use 11" flashers in front of hootchies and bait with around 36" of leader. (Just the opposite of the post below) Usually these set ups work well for me. The difference between the dodgers and flashers is that the dodgers swing side to side like a salmon's tail and the flashers rotate in wide circles, causing the hootchies to also rotate wildly. General rule: the more your lures move around, the more the salmon like to attack them. Both the dodgers and flashers are visually attractive and they produce vibrations which salmon can sense through their lateral lines and other receptors. All this knowledge and I still could not hook a fish the last two weekends!
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 1:06 pm:   

Do dodgers mimic a feeding salmon? What are the differences between dodgers and flashers? (besides movement)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 12:53 pm:   

Martine, usually one uses a dodger and a hoochie, not a flasher there is a difference. Run a dodger and a hoochie anywhere from 24" to 30" max for a hoochie. Flashers are used with lures such as Apexes, spoons, and j lures. Hope you get em, den Tincancaptin
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 12:22 pm:   

Thanks for all the info. guys....About Bottom bouncing and the Smallmouth. New question. How far behind your flasher are you running a hootchie? What other lures are appropriate for running behind a flasher? Are you guys using Fluorocarbon for leader? And Michelle....I owe you lunch!!!! Thank you for pulling that Treble hook out of me last year! Sorry its taken soo long to thank you..
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 11:45 am:   

Mike,

We are still debating the new name. I thought we were close, but it is hard to pull the trigger.

The newest name in the running is "Quit Bitchin" ;)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 11:17 am:   

Follow bait balls by marking their positions on your chartplotter...as you box or figure eight keep pushing the mark or mob button.

And, "typical arrogant schoolteacher"....yikes...I've been teaching junior high for 20 years...we're not all arrogant!
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 10:40 am:   

Steve:

1. When I go over a bait ball that is deep, I just consider myself lucky, and try to stay with it. Joe uses MOB, I write down the LAT/LON keeping in mind it will move. If you can figure out which way it is headed, then go over it from the side and back out a little. Then you are running parallel with it. For some reason, I have had luck on the "inside" (toward shore) of the bait ball.

2. I think it is the scattering of the bait that scatters the salmon. Or maybe it is the scattering of the bait that scatters the fishermen.

These are hard questions. If anyone else has some insight, please jump in. Salmon are hard to catch here. I certainly don't consider myself an expert. I also rely on fishing fellowship to learn better techniques.

P.S. sorry if I offended anyone on opening day. It is always the most harrowing day for me.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 10:22 am:   

One of the things that is generally better up here than in San Diego is the cooperation that occurs between the Sport boats and the skiffs. Lets try and remember that in general we all do a pretty good job of working together and try to keep it that way. Having both worked on a sport boat, and now fishing my own skiff for the last 25 years I can appreciate both sides of the story. Having said that I am appreciative of the Sport Captains from both PSL and Morro as they have always been curteous and willing to share when my boat has been on the water.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 10:11 am:   

Kudos Michele for your level headed response. I very much appreciate the info that you share both on and off the water. Folks have differing opinions on how to catch fish and discussions are great, but why the personal attacks Michael Gorgita??? I don't understand, it gets you no where. Let's keep it friendly and maybe we all can learn something.
Michele,
I understand about fishing the edges of the bait-balls. I've seen fish feeding in videos (I've seen the blue planet videos about 50 times!) and while scuba diving. They always attack the edge, this middle of the bait ball is too confusing, they must be able to pick out a single prey. I can sometimes see the baitballs at the surface and then it is easy to steer around them, but I have two questions.
1. How do you know where the edge of the baitball is if it is from 50-150 feet down? Opening weekend we occasionaly drove over bait for minutes at a time. I would have no idea which way to turn or how to stay on the edge. Any suggestions.
2. I also consider chinook to be deep water salmon (coho used to be on top here, back when I was a kid, but they are not around anymore:-(. With most of the fish being caught from 60-150' down, how does driving over a baitball affect them when they are deep? I always try to adjust my downriggers so I am trolling just underneath the baitballs, which I have also seen both personally and in videos.
I used to think I knew how to catch salmon when I lived in Oregon...it is a different story down here!
Thanks for your help.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 9:53 am:   

Michele,
Maybe this Gorgita guy will stay in Santa Barbara. Typical arrogant school teacher.
We all know who catches the most fish in this area and that is the BBQ. So, to you fellow novices out there, listen to Joe and you will improve your fishing.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 8:46 am:   

Jim G,

Also, polarized glasses are good for cutting glare, then you can look for black spots, and watch for birds. If you do happen to get stuck fishing with me- If I am driving in circles come on over it means I have either caught a fish or am on a bait ball. I will try not to be too pushy, but like Joe said, I can't turn very hard at 2 knts. in a 55' boat.

Of course there are some fish off the balls, but when they are eating, I believe they are the ones making the little fishies "jump" out of the water.

Like my dad sais, "stick with the groceries". In the long run you will catch more fish.

Everyone has different opinions on how to catch 'em and every day is different. I listen to what everyone has to say, then use what I have learned when I think the conditions call for it.

Gdoggsb-I would be happy for you if you caught a fish. Especially if you were fishing up here. That's what I do for a living is try to help people catch fish. Sorry if I'm too pushy for you, just ignore me in the future.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 8:34 am:   

Your theory is good but I think differently...what does it matter if the bait goes down..the salmon are keying on other salmon slashing thru the bait, this is why you use flashers, so the flasher does'nt do its work on the outside of the bait ball...you want to troll thru it so the bait separates around your flasher, the salmon see the separation, they see your flasher as another feeding salmon and your hoochie as one injured bait that got away... they're greedy (like some fisherman) so they attack your bait. And do you think King salmon are surface feeders...NOOTT they are down there at forty to 200 ft so it really doesn't matter. As for the Fiesta, just because your family runs party boats doesn't make you an expert at salmon fishing. This is the same boat that was trying to push me in my little 22ft boat out of the bait by continually turning into me, I was tacking a straight line, she does not OWN the water nor can she push me out of "her bait ball" she was being a inconsiderate bully with her 54ft boat so she gets no respect here!!! P.S. I caught three fish on openning day..none even near the surface bait. All the bait was at 60-80ft
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Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 10:57 pm:   

Hello Michael Gorgita,

You must be better at White Seabass fishing than Salmon fishing.
Years of experence has proved blowing through the middle of bait balls may produce one fish at the moment. In the long run it breaks the ball up and thus the fish working the ball, pushing them down. It is not hard to figure out in 56 degree to 58 degree water the fish are down deep, especially if you follow the good information provided by everyone on this board, including Michell Rawley, Captain of the Fiesta.
For the guy who was trying to be considerate and learn something. When you cannot see the bait on the surface and run into it on the meter. 90% of the time you will get bit on the backside of the ball. Move your curser to the hit spot or mark a way point. The ball will move by the time you make your turn, we use the curser and move it each time we find the ball again, using the go to numbers.
Figure eights or circle the spot.
Michell, on the Fiesta, has only one thing on her mind, that is catching fish not pushing people around. If there is one boat captain that has been disrespected and cut off from fish this season you named her.
There have been very few fish this season, our last limit came in 5 foot seas and 25 to 30 knots of wind.
Everyone should try working and learing something from our local captains instead of insulting them. The big boats do not turn as fast as our little boats, cutting her off racing her to the ball she has seen frist and making her pull the boat out of gear is very disrepectful and incosiderate.

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Joseph Anderton
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PS. I have been known to very frank and blunt.
Hope this does not hurt anyones feelings.
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Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 9:33 pm:   

"All the trolling around the bait balls has produced nothing."

If that was true, who would bother fishing bait balls?
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Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 8:18 pm:   

Jim don't worry about trolling thru bait balls.... this is not albacore fishing where you could actually push the fish down, the salmon are all down there laughing at the mere idea!!! Check the fish counts if you don't believe me, all the trolling around the bait balls has produced nothing. I say go deep, really deep as in fish at 300ft and 200 on the wire. And yes ROB my new ABT trailer is ordered and no I'm going to try salmon here in SB first, then go after some of those wily seabass if they start to go. Troll were you want to...and don't let the Fiesta push you around!!!!!
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Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 7:03 pm:   

I plan to fish out of MB in the morning for salmon. I have been reading about not trolling throught the bait schools. I figure by the time I see a bait ball on the fish finder, I will be in the middle of it. How do you stay on the outside? Any do/dont do things I should know about?

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Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 3:47 pm:   

Same here, add 4 hours.
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Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 3:19 pm:   

Fished Morro Bay for about three hours today without a bite the wind came up and blew us off. there were no fish reported on the radio. I think the salmon are here they just are not biting right now. I will be out again on wed.
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Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 1:20 pm:   

hey wig ,ya gonna go out after some of them white sea bass and butts down there ,have ya tried that sea anchor out yet and have ya ordered your new trailer yet
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Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 12:13 pm:   

A little blowy down here in SB today...but good weather ahead for the next couple of days.
A few more salmon showing up down here, usual spots. Not wide by any means, not even fair, but it's at least a start.
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Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 11:36 am:   

Steve, watch the weather if you plan on going to fish the Islands, it is just as nasty there if the forcasted Northeast winds blow. Right now the rockfish are open along with Wht. seabass at Santa Rosa and the halibut should be ready to go off there too!!! Good luck and post your results.
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Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 9:36 am:   

Fishing MB tomorrow. Anyone else heading out? What's the report...are the fish still down deep?
thanks,
steve
P.S. With the snotty forecast for Monterey Thurs/Fri, thinking of heading down to fish the Channel Islands. Anyhow fish there this time of year? Any help would be much appreciated.
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Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 11:15 pm:   

BBQ
There is about 13- 9/0's on ebay right now. You can buy a new one for $165+shipping. But I don't know if the new ones are as good as the old ones.

John
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Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 10:01 pm:   

Hello Everyone,

Looking for 2, Penn 9 ott, Senators. Would perfer old ones in great conditon.
Call (805) 235-1866 ask for Joe.

Best regards,
Joseph Anderton
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Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 8:30 pm:   

We got 1 shaker too. A few blues today and short bites that were probably blues. Hopefully this is a good sign that something is biting.
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Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 8:16 pm:   

Gave the salmon a shot out of MB this morning before the wind and swell came up at 10:00.Had one fat 18" shaker on the watermelon apex,and one "mystery strike" that did not stick.Both strikes came just off the bottom in 185ft...Still tonnage of bait out front of the Rock.I did not hear anyone on the radio admit to catching a legal today...but I quit early...jeff
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Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 9:26 am:   

Mertine,I use 60 lb spiderwire on my 4/0. I use a plastic slider on the main line that I attach the weight to with 20lb mono. This wieght has a cheap trout type swivel on the lead so I can change the lead..The weight leader is about 24". I use a sampo swivel on the main line. I use 60lb jenki to the small 6" hotspot flasher from the sampo to flasher about 8 feet. I like green but sometimes white is better. I use a purple haze cuttle with two snelled 5/0 hooks on 60lb jenki. The leader behind the flasher starts at 15". I use 60lb because I have caught very large fish over the years and if you hook a 40 or 50 halibut or white seabass or a 175lb threasher you have a better chance to land it, I also don't think halibut are leader shy. You need to troll slow..1 1.2 1.4...I use only enough weight to get the gear to tap the bottom. I work my lines by making sure they are on the bottom..The bottom is uneven so you really can't go that long without checking your depth hence ball bouncing..Some use dodgers I have been doing better with flashers the last coulpe years..If they are there you'll get um with this set up good luck John
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Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 9:10 am:   

The bait was hard to see yesterday. There were so many spots of it popping up on the surface that they looked like small balls when it was really a weird shaped big one. I ran over the top of some myself. In that situation, I think most of us did a good job. It did stay together for about 45 mins. and some fish were caght. Maybe next time we could keep it together longer if the smaller boats trust the bigger boats and "follow" us. It is a lot easier to see the whole picture if you are looking down on it. This is why you will see my deckhand on the roof sometimes (he is not just trying to get away from me).
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Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 8:57 am:   

Ray,
I got that net like six or seven years ago at a hardware store in morro bay. I cant rememeber the name but i know that it was right off of harbor sreet, maybe the first street up. It would be nice to be able to use it sometime this year.
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Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 8:17 am:   

Ray,it was nice to meet you at the boat wash yesterday. You asked me how I was able to listen live to the VHF marine broadcast in Montery Bay. The free web site is http://shiptoshoreradio.com/ They also broadcast San Fran, Half Moon Bay, and Golden Gate.
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Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 6:42 am:   

Nic: Trying to find a salmon net like the one you had in your boat. Where did you pick that up?

Bait up by Pecho was kinda scattered and what we did find was very deep. Looked like either squid or RF Spawn. Later off the lighthouse there were some big schools of something very small, on top, could have been pinner chovies or RF spawn. 2 years ago same area we found a ball about an acre in size that was brown RF (Bolina) spawn; all about 1-1.5", speared one on a spoon. Saw no whales all day.

Sure hoping things pickup with better weather/higher pressure. Except the SST sure seems to be coming up fast. Anyone recall the SST in 95 in April? TX RC
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Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 8:44 pm:   

Fished infront of the rock today for 1 nice 29.3lbs on digital scale I am still stoaked.195ft 185 on the wire green flasher and green krock. Will post pics when I get a chance. Michele I seen today what you were talking about every time I could find a baitball someone would get a little too close and push it down. But I'm happy got my pig salmon now ready for some cod.
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Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 7:40 pm:   

Jay, that just goes to show that fish will bite anything when they are hungry.
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Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 7:37 pm:   

Cloud,
I think you and i were the only boats out of PSL today. I trolled for 5 hours with nada. Lots of bait and whales.
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Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 6:54 pm:   

Saturday PSL: 8 hours trolling yielded one small salmon front of lighthouse 85' OTW in 131', Dodger/Hootchovie, legal but turned back to grow up. Spoke w/Patriot nada from Mussell Rock area.

More interesting was anytime within 50' or so of bottom yielded rockfish (all released of course), large schools were *everywhere* there was hardbottom. Even caught a Canary RF would have gone about 3 lbs. For a fishery needing 7 months closure & in-season depth limnits looks to be pretty good in my personal OTW experience. Cloud out.
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Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 6:42 pm:   

michele

i have had good luck with the 11" rainbow flasher
with a watermelon apex tied 9' behind the flasher.
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Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 6:16 pm:   

fished morro today trolled for 6 hours and no fish.lots of good bait signs hope it turns around.Hey jim reg, catalina heard the white seabass are biting real good and yellowtail, we are thinking about fishing down there in the middle of may.
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Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 3:30 pm:   

1 fish. The bait came back up today. High pressure is coming Mon. and Tues. Weather looks fishable all week, maybe a little choppy on Tues. 120 ft./green kroc/sleeping in galley
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Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 3:02 pm:   

A couple reports of Albacore below San Diego. One by the Royal Polaris and one by a spotter plane. 6-12 lbs one day out by the plane and around Guadalupe by RP.
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Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 8:13 am:   

Jim,there is a fuel dock on Catalina in Avalon harbor,and if you have time before you go I highly recommend reading the guide book written by Bruce Wicklund," Boat,Dive,& Fish Catalina Island, it's in the West Marine catalog ,or maybe your local book store.

Bloody Decks Forever!!
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Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 12:54 am:   

Just got a vacation for the first 3 weeks of May. Thinking about doing a Catalina Run for a couple of days....... I have never been there before, is there a fuel doc? What is biting at that time? any advice would be appreciated.

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Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 7:43 pm:   

anybody know what the weather is going to be like at morro sat?
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Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 6:10 pm:   

I'll be out tomorrow morning trying a few new tricks I have come up with to get them to bite. Give me a call on 68 and we'll figure out how to snag a few. (Just kidding F&G guys)
Will on the Baitball
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Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 5:32 pm:   

Fished out of Morro Bay this morning for 1 salmon of #18lb.It was our only legit bite of the morning and came on a watermelon apex fished 170ft down the wire in approx 195ft of water straight out from the Rock.Water temp was 56.5.Last year the trick was to find the baitballs...but this year there seems to be "acreage" of bait,and I had to get away from it to get bit.....I only fished until 10:00,due to a work committment,but will be out again tomorrow if weather permits.It was rainy today but no wind,no significant swell and very fishable.Make sure to pinch down your barbs and carry your papers as Fish'n Game checked every boat out there...good luck....jeff
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Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 2:16 pm:   

If anyone gets any fresh info on the Monterey salmon a call on my cell would be appreciated.
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Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 7:37 am:   

Martine--try a panther martin spinner for smallmouth. Yellow body w orange spots/silver or gold blade, or chartreuse blade/black body fave colors. I like to troll them 1-3 oz egg sinker ahead of a 4' leader, use ball bearing swivel or line will be toast fast.

There are lots of way to bounce ball hali's and I will leave that to others. I use downriggers trolling a small herring dodger and puple haze hootchie rigged with trap rig, put live chovie on if available. RC
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Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 6:45 am:   

I went salmon fishing out of Morro Bay at 2:00 Thursday and fished until 7:00. The two boats we saw returning had nothing. The water temp had risen to 58 degrees in some spots and was very clear. We caught one mackerel. The stacks of bait were still here. We fished from 100 to 200 feet of water. Maybe it will be an early albacore season.
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Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 2:42 am:   

Threshers start once the water warms up a bit. Last year they were getting them heavy in early
July, yet i dont know how the boats working the ourside were doing. Im sure you will have luck eary with those types of lures.
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Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 8:52 pm:   

Just dropped the boat into a slip for the season at Morro Bay.I can't believe that old Bayliner started right up after sitting on the trailer at my buddy's ranch since the fishing season closed Oct. 1st...I plan to head out for salmon in the morning,and again on Saturday.Does anyone have any RELIABLE info on the M.B. salmon scene?If so, please post a reply or catch me on CH 68 after 7:30 am....As you know,I always reciprocate....thanks...jeff
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Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 8:25 pm:   

Can someone out there explian to me the set-up for bottom bouncing for Halibut? And are there any San Antonio/Nacimiento Small mouth experts that can help me get started catching them?
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Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 7:35 pm:   

report/forecast sais water temp will rise even more this weekend so fish deep.
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Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 7:29 pm:   

Not sure which Diablo report you guys are reading. Both the link above and 545-frnt have forecast through at least Sat.
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Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 7:06 pm:   

Anybody know when the Thresher sharks start making a showing. I should go ask the guys that fish for them off Pismo Pier. I've had a blast in the past trolling large repala's around bait. If anybody has any info i'd appreciate it. Also haven't heard anything on Halibut. Is it Salmon Fever or just not time yet?
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Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 6:36 pm:   

I din`t mean any disrespect at all towards john lindsey.
We are in a different weather cycle and forecasts are hard to make.
there hasn`t been satelites bouys and all of the available data that we have now, available to put into the computers for the accurate forecasts we get when the conditions and data have been fed into the system.
The national weather service stated in their discussion in Jan. that they will be able to predict this cycle of weather better by 2011.
no offence was intended.
With all the technology we still have to rely on gut instincts. It`ll get better as time goes by
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Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 5:32 pm:   

i don't think there is any disrespect towards the diablo forecasters ...only the untimely updating of the reports......john has been the best in forecasting local marine weather up untill a few months ago...since then the forecasts are 'yesterdays news'....just curious as to why the change from predicting weather to reporting the weather
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Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 5:14 pm:   

Bob,
You need to give Lindsey a little more respect. he has save alot of us from the weather and helped us catch alot of fish.
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Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 4:54 pm:   

correction, john lindsey is the forecaster and tenera is his url
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Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 4:51 pm:   

My guess is that tenera, the diablo weather forecaster is afraid to make a mistake. After all he`s got to be getting big bucks working for PG&E.
Thats my opinion,
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Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 4:22 pm:   

anyone know why the diablo forcast is always at least a day late?....no answer from the number listed...or e-mail........diablo has always been the best in forcasting local weather, bar none....but heck, even i can tell you what the weather was yesterday
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Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 3:07 pm:   

will do wig ,rain predicted but bluebird weather here now and pretty warm to boot ,i thought you got your trailor already ,it would be best to wait until you get the new one before you come up
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Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 3:00 pm:   

Sorry Rob, but there haven't been enough reports to get the fever going yet...maybe someone will post something to get me rollin but it looks like a bad weather window and not that many fish. I also have to measure my old rusty trailer so my new A.B.T. one will get made. Keep me posted!!!
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Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 1:11 pm:   

gorjita ,you comming up this weekend to try for some salmon

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