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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 10:11 pm:   

28.65 / d sportfishing regs. (gaffs)
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 10:04 pm:   

Harrel,
Yep, these fish will be the big ones in the fall. Most chovies live 2 years, some three. The little guys, the 2-4 inchers we are seeing now, were the ones borne last spring/summer.
I'll be fishing early in the morning in the skiff chasing halibut. I don't have the field trip until 9:30.
Hope to catch a keeper flattie tomorrow!
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 9:53 pm:   

A hook is a hook. I will gaff them in the lips if it makes any difference.
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 8:46 pm:   

I fished out of Morro today for three keeper Lings and an assortment of Red and Blue Rock Cod. We were up by Cambria in 60-120 feet of water and all our quality fish came on a Root Beer/Chartruese Scampi. My friend Tom needs to learn about the habits of the infamous Morro Bay Seagulls. He turned his back for a minute and they ate his fish!!!!!The weather was marginal but we had a good time!!!
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 7:55 pm:   

i have to check, but i think freegaffing any fish, hitchhiker or not, in california waters is illegal yes/no?
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 7:43 pm:   

One more post:

The stuffing 16oz sinkers comes from when I was a young boy out on a Virge's half day boat. I had caught a lingcod that obviously was the jackpot winner. Until two old drunken geezers brought up a smaller looking fish. When put on the balance it was heavier. When the deckhand took the fish down, out rolled a couple of large sinkers. I got my jackpot.
And I agree that a captain's rules must be followed by all. That's just the way it has to be.
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 6:59 pm:   

Either way, if the crew was telling people it wasn't ok and 1 person did it, then that isn't really fair to the people who where following the "rules". As far as hitch hikers go, I allow them in the jackpot. Those are the hardest ones to get to the boat-without a hook in them.
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 6:54 pm:   

Sorry, I meant Leffingwell.
I guess if winning the jackpot with a fish caught with a blue is bad, then stuffing 16 oz. sinkers down their throat must be out of the question.
Cool off, just kidding.
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 6:52 pm:   

Martine,

I don't use a blackbox. I haven't tried spectra on the downriggers, have you?

I had shrimp and rice today for lunch. Free food for a while is working out great, thank you.
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 6:47 pm:   

Jay, try to get a name next time and then complain to Darby. I'm sorry that happened to you. Come fishing with me and we will cover your fish cleaning and galley tab for the day.
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 6:45 pm:   

I'm in Camarillo and have been to the Sports Chalet. They said they cannot get the swim shads anymore, but they had about 20 bags in the store room. I bought 10. No more of the old squids.
And, evidently I have been breaking the law for over 30 years fishing with blue fish. I really never thought about whether it was leagal or not. I just knew that it worked for large lingcod. Usually hitchhikers. So what's the difference in a hitchhiker?
And they work for sheephead too, which I have caught some big black and red bucktoothed ones right there at Levingwell. Believe it or not.
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 6:43 pm:   

Harrell, if that is true (sounds like it is) then it is new to the regs. It used to be written in the book that you couldn't do this, it was called upgrading.
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 6:39 pm:   

Maritime,
I just bought some braded line for my downriggers that Scotty is producing. I saw it at the Fred Hall show in Long Beach and found it at Berry's in BC, Canada. Haven't had a chance to put it on yet, but they say that the auto stops you put on the line will stay in place and it's much easier to use.

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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 6:24 pm:   

Steve;
How fast do anchovies grow? Will these little guys be our 6-7" chovies in the fall?
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 6:07 pm:   

Fellow fishmaster,
Yep, Deke does have live bait. Last weekend it was 2-3" chovies with maybe an occasional 4" in there. They are getting bigger by the day, so hopefully he'll have some bigger bait this weekend. I'll be out of PSL doing another field trip on the Horizon. I'll post our "trawl" catches and I'll find out what he has for bait. I may bring my skiff down and fish before and after the field trip.
best fishes,
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 5:51 pm:   

Michelle....Did you get the tab at the restaurant? And is anybody out their trolling with the Spectra Braid on the downriggers, instead of stainless? With the braid, it should fish straight down...and wouldnt need the black box...What are you guys setting the black box for Salmon at?
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 5:31 pm:   

Is there live bait for sale yet at PSL? Thanks
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 5:03 pm:   

michele

who is the person virges has answering the phone
very rude.
he needs an atitude adjustment or fired.
talked to him today didn't like his atitude very nasty.
he needs to be let go.

jay
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 4:43 pm:   

Chartered 3/4 day fishing trip Coronado island on Wednesday may 24.
Islandia Sportfishing, San Diego. Boat "Dominator" breakfast, lunch and
drinks will be provided. A Mexican fishing lic.is required and can be
bought for $14. I have 2 tickets for $30 each. My back went out, no way
I can fight a yellowtail. If interested email at Swooshbll@aol.com
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 3:28 pm:   

Dave F. we had a name for you when I ran the Diablo. Doo Da, If we had the live ones I didn`t allow it.
Capt Dave
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 2:55 pm:   

Looks like Dave can keep his Jackpot! and I don't have to be looking over my shoulder when, on occasion, I use a blue for bait.


Hello,

Yes, you can use blue rockfish for bait. Any marine species for which take is allowed may be used for bait (except tilapia), as long as the fish being used for bait meets any minimum size limit set for that specie, and is used during the open season for that specie. Also, the fish used for bait counts towards the daily bag and possession limit for that specie.

An example:

Prior to the implementation of the minimum size limit and the bag limit reduction to one fish, greenling were a popular live bait for shore-based anglers fishing for lingcod in northern California. Now, if you want to use a greenling to go for lings, that greenling being used for bait must be at least 12 inches in total length, and fills the one fish daily bag limit for greenling - no other greenling may be retained.

I hope this answers your question.

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>>> "Harrell" <harrellkimball@pronet.net> 5/18/2006 1:54:36 PM >>>
Is it permissible to use Blue rockfish ( or any fish with a limit) for live bait so long as no more then the legal limit is taken including the bait ?
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 2:34 pm:   

I lost a jack pot last year on the 2 day trip because a decky free gafed a larger ling , and said the angler brought it to the boat. No more jack pot's for me.
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 11:53 am:   

gulps?

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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 11:49 am:   

Are these the candy squid you guys are chatting about?

squids

if sowaht is the size?

i want to keep my eye out for them.
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 10:45 am:   

I agree about the tuna. I think it was Wes that turned me on to that last year, trolling the candy squid. We were trolling around in kind of crappy weather picking up 1's and the boat next to us was getiing more. They told us about trolling the gulps, so we trolled 4 across w/an additional 1 on each corner fishing 25# and any leadhead with a candy squid. They didn't just bite the gulps, but also every other lure in the water, which wasn't getting bit before. Also, we started getting bait fish to the boat. Since the gulps were on 25#, the troll fish kind of turned into a "bait" fish because it took a while to get in. I believe other fish would follow these ones to the boat. Anyhow, it sure changed our day!
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 9:44 am:   

Is there a difference??? I looked up Berkly Inshore Power Swim Shad on the Bass Pro Web site..The swim bait looks the same as the old swimbait. The newer bait has an eye added...There isn't a Candy Squid but the colors look good...I guess what is being said is these don't work as well as the old powerbait style???
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 9:06 am:   

Dave F.,

I know you gave that jackpot to the crew, right?

Paul
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 8:49 am:   

P.S. I have never seen my brother use blue bass for bait. He would be apalled.
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 8:47 am:   

Jay,

Sorry, but I am chartered all weekend. The trip you are ging on will be on the Admiral. If everything goes as planned, I will have 7-3 on Thursday next week.
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 8:45 am:   

Dave F,

I don't know what to say. Good job fishing illegally and cheating on the jackpot?
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 7:15 am:   

I use my "candy baits" for albacore...I have been trolling swimbaits for albacore and there is no doubt they out fish a fish trap anyday...I'll save mine for tuna...Why aren't they making them??I remember the scalite wobbler was dicountiuned.. That didn't last long...Maybe we can talk them into making them again.. John
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Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 9:43 pm:   

Not a true statement Michelle... (@ least what I was told) I was fishin' off of a PSL party boat and had caught a blue. So the 1st thing I did was cut big strips off of it and put'em on my hooks.
Well, the crew & capt. of the boat had a fit. Said it's illegal to use another fish caught for bait. And told me I had to wind up and take it off. Anyway, to make a long story short... I moved out-of-sight and fished my blue as bait. And on the way back in to port I was countin' my jackpot cash for the largest fish. (Yep ! A ling caught using the blue)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 9:39 pm:   

michele

i still have 3 packs of candy squid left.
going to bring one bag with me.
i am on the 7:00 to 3 boat saturday and sunday.
do you know if you are running the 7 to 3 boat..want to fish on the fiesta.
let me know if you have the 7 to 3 thanks.

jay
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Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 9:10 pm:   

Jeff, I will put away a few packs just in case I need a good defense lawyer.(again)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 9:05 pm:   

It doesn't matter what some people use for bait. Ever see my brother fish?
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Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 8:52 pm:   

Thanks Harrell for the input on a VHF base antenna. I thought I found a used 17.5 footer, but it turned out to be for marine CB, not VHF. Guess I'll have to spring for a new one.
And, the biggest lingcod I've caught over the years has always been with about a 14 inch live bluefish hooked under the dorsal. I had a ling spool me 3 times with my light gear Tuesday, and then he stuck his head in the rocks and adios. It's fun isn't it?
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Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 8:40 pm:   

Chris, the Gulps that I'm talking about look just like a Kalin swim bait. If you know what that is. I'm heading down to LA tomorrow and hope to have some time to look around. I found the last ones at the Sport Chalet in Camarillo. Going down to an appointment and also to pick up a couple of used commercial stainless steel double sinks for fishies.
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Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 8:01 pm:   

Anyone have a picture of the old gulp baits?
I think I know what you guys are drooling about but not sure.

Thanks
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Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 6:31 pm:   

You think that guy in the picture was producing a bit of "brown" right about then?

WOW!

That fish is just an eating machine!

Incredible!
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Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 4:12 pm:   

I know what you guys mean about that purple candy squid. Here in New Zealand all the fishies are so hungry for it that we use it for a pre-dive site check. Just a coupla dangling minutes, mate and...eh what say we grab a coupla stouts and shoot some golf instead mate?
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Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 2:09 pm:   

I bought 10 packs of the purple "candy squid" swimbaits shortly after they were discontinued,and cherish every swimtail until it is chewed to absolute uselessness.For big reds I am sure that it outfishes live bait every time.They have also accounted for some big flatties and lings off Cayucos in 2005,and 2006.Its too bad that Berkeley discontined a lure which REALLY WORKS,when most of the "scent" stuff out there is worthless.I took a pack of Candy Squid and some 2oz leadheads with me to Ixtapa in April and caught a dorado,a roosterfish,and a small yellowfin (all on 1 swimtail)...The pangero literally begged me for the rest of my 5-pack..jeff
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Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 1:41 pm:   

John;
When I use big sand dabs and 10" + mackeral the big advantage is they are almost never bothered by small rockfish. I nose hook them with a treble trap in the tail and they stay on the line really well. One downside to big lively bait is that they will run into the rocks to hide.
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Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 11:47 am:   

A word about Berkley bait. (Gulp).
I don't think anything "outfishes" live bait.
I just think the Berkley bait stays on the hook.
The smaller fish knock the live bait off before the bigger fish can get to it. When the fish are really shy, then live bait (in my
opinion) will "outfish" any other type of bait.
Except for dynamite, that works real good too.
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Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 6:07 am:   

Did anyone fish salmon out PSL this week? If so any bait or luck? Thanks, Sheryl
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Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 12:31 am:   

If I were going to sell my "old" gulp swim shad it would be for 8.00/5 pack sardine, and black pearl color or 10.00/5 pack candy squid(purple)

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Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 10:30 pm:   

Way to go John. Gulp baits made me a believer. I fish'em exclusevly.
NOT sayin' they'll catch bigger fish than live bait... Just, more fish. Which adds up to more chances to catch bigger fish.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 8:26 pm:   

By the way, Nicholas, all the reds and lings, including the big one came on just one old Gulp
shad. There's not much left of it, so I'll take $100 for it.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 8:21 pm:   

Trolled in dense fog today for zero MB salmon. Found little bait. Took time out to catch some reds and lings.
The next couple of years should be great for lingcod. I must have caught 25 small ones. I did get one 40 incher. It was a fun battle on my old Penn squider. Water was decent until about 1:30pm, then it got alittle choppy.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 6:09 pm:   

I want to go shark fishing this wekend off the pier in avila, but don't know if the bait fish(maks and sardines) are coming in yet.... anyone seen em' off the pier yet? I know they're off shore.
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Timothy Foley (Tree_doc)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 4:46 pm:   

Thanks, Will. I fi